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Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#25076: Jul 18th 2014 at 10:28:23 PM

I've been working in my comic. Managed to write 8 pages, but without an specific order. 5 pages are about the climax, and 3 about the intentional Ho Yay between two characters. However, I'm still looking for a way their "friendship" looks genuine and not forced for the climax.

I'm writing a shonen-like story, not a romance story by the way.

And my friend is fine, he'll continue inking the parody comic. With time, the comic shall be finished in october, I hope.

edited 18th Jul '14 10:33:25 PM by Tomodachi

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
JHM Apparition in the Woods from Niemandswasser Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Hounds of love are hunting
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#25077: Jul 19th 2014 at 3:39:38 AM

The Ho Yay trope only applies when it's accidental; what you're looking for is good old-fashioned homoerotic subtext.

Which is the best thing.

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electronic-tragedy PAINKILLER from Wherever I need to be Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
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#25078: Jul 19th 2014 at 5:10:10 AM

I'm back to writing my story which is refreshing. But thr beginning is stale so I'm thinking of writing "out-of-sequence", but I feel if I organize it by writing out the sequence of events, I'll lose interest in the story (I leave some of events open in case I want to add in a scene). Once I outlined a story and I felt like I wrote the whole book so I got bored. I like this idea, I don't want to lose interest.

Sorry I just wanted to let this out.

Life is hard, that's why no one survives.
Night The future of warfare in UC. from Jaburo Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
The future of warfare in UC.
#25079: Jul 19th 2014 at 5:29:44 AM

I've written a lot of stories out of sequence, but discovered I rarely complete them unless I force myself to write mostly or wholly sequentially.

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Aquatica1000 Since: Oct, 2012
#25080: Jul 19th 2014 at 5:26:08 PM

How does someone do a Kid from the Future plot in a fanfiction without said kid coming off as a Mary Sue? I've unfortunately got this in my head for months... (-__-')

Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#25081: Jul 19th 2014 at 6:38:17 PM

[up]

1) The kid tends to be a copy from the fathers.

2) Tends to have the same powers, or even being more powerful than them.

So, does your kid follows the formula? Introduce him, give him a good introduction, give him flaws, make him different.

edited 19th Jul '14 6:42:08 PM by Tomodachi

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Aquatica1000 Since: Oct, 2012
#25082: Jul 19th 2014 at 6:48:41 PM

Not really. Physically, she looks like a blend of her mother and father. Personality-wise, she's quiet like her father, but it's more out of shyness. And the only "power" she has is a pair of wings, and both parents have them, so it kind of doesn't count.

Also, she didn't intentionally come to the present to get her parents together — she came here thanks to a time machine going haywire, and ends up causing trouble in their relationship (She ends up kissing her father by accident. Yes, she's extremely squicked out by it).

Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#25083: Jul 19th 2014 at 6:55:17 PM

[up] That sounds hilarious!

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ArsThaumaturgis Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
#25084: Jul 19th 2014 at 7:20:07 PM

I'm honestly not sure of why being a time-traveller would make the character more likely to be a Mary Sue—knowledge of the future is the only thing that really comes to mind that's specific to time travel, and that can be dealt with easily enough by faulty recollection, alterations to future events as a result of the time traveller's actions, etc.

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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#25085: Jul 19th 2014 at 7:34:58 PM

The claim is made on the page itself, though I've long since just started tuning out any discussion of the subject in question.

Aquatica1000 Since: Oct, 2012
#25086: Jul 19th 2014 at 7:37:41 PM

@Ars: The So You Want To Avoid Writing a Mary Sue page mentioned it. As did the Kid from the Future page itself.

@Tomo: Thanks! smile

SabresEdge Show an affirming flame from a defense-in-depth Since: Oct, 2010
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#25087: Jul 19th 2014 at 8:52:16 PM

It'd seem like the main trouble would come from the fact that they'd know a whole lot of things that nobody else would as a result of being from the future. You could very easily negate its applications via the butterfly effect, and things unfolding differently from the way he remembers them to be. That's more a function of reading good time-travel fiction and seeing how the authors do that. (Night Watch is the example that comes to mind.)

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Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#25088: Jul 19th 2014 at 9:26:39 PM

So, the first villain of my superhero story is a Large Ham despicable terrorist, who looks like the lost son of The Rhino and a megaman character.

... I'm doing something wrong, he's supposed to be despicable, not funny!

edited 19th Jul '14 9:27:26 PM by Tomodachi

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Xeroop Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#25089: Jul 20th 2014 at 5:40:23 AM

Can we change? My bad guy is an Omnicidal Maniac from the future who thinks the best way to save humanity is to eradicate all humanity from Earth and create new, higher state of civilization by cherry-picking the best human individuals out of their own timelines to re-colonize. And my story was supposed to be comedic.

ArsThaumaturgis Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
#25090: Jul 20th 2014 at 8:46:51 AM

Re: Kid from the Future: The Mary Sue warning on the trope page seems to be noting a tendency to use Kids from the Future, not that Kids from the Future are inherently Mary-Sueish. The "So You Want To..." page has some points worth noting, I think, but as long as you're in a position to write a non-Mary-Sue in the first place I'd guess that you probably needn't worry much more for your character being a Kid from the Future.

(Again, the main source of potential Mary-Sueishness specific to Kids from the Future—that I see, at least—is the issue of information from the future, which has been discussed already.)

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maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
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#25091: Jul 20th 2014 at 9:04:08 AM

You know what I think would be a nice twist to the Kid from the Future? If the reason they came back was to prevent their own birth.

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great
SabresEdge Show an affirming flame from a defense-in-depth Since: Oct, 2010
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#25092: Jul 20th 2014 at 7:08:43 PM

Small realization: it seems that for a number of my characters, I've inadvertently applied Power Gives You Wings (which I didn't even know was a thing until after I did the planning): a Polish winged hussar, a Spitfire fighter, an angel of fire...

It's also occurred to me that I have comparatively unusual designs for meguca costumes, but what the hell. Function over form, especially if the wings are functional for air combat maneuvering purposes.

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Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#25093: Jul 20th 2014 at 11:00:26 PM

So I had this talk with a Badwebcomics wiki admin.

It was interesting.

Also, yay, two more pages!

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#25094: Jul 21st 2014 at 2:29:23 PM

Do you feel like sharing the interesting part with us?

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Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#25095: Jul 21st 2014 at 7:14:44 PM

Sure!

he actually gave an opinion of my villain. He said my villain was pretty bad because it simplifies a real life problem, and follows the idea of a Revenge Fantasy. The message was pretty poor made, and could be better

And that he was kinda undeveloped.

But for the rest, he was pretty friendly and like the concept. Im actually taking notes in order to create a better villain with a stronger message.

edited 21st Jul '14 7:17:37 PM by Tomodachi

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
Nightwire Humans inferior. Ultron superior. Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
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#25096: Jul 23rd 2014 at 8:48:06 AM

Everyone: Do you have any characters that you're afraid might receive the Draco in Leather Pants treatment?

Bite my shiny metal ass.
Sharysa Since: Jan, 2001
#25097: Jul 23rd 2014 at 9:04:43 AM

Should my works get published/adapted somehow, I don't really mind what my potential fandom might think. Well, as long as nobody gets obsessive enough to send me creepy letters or somehow hurt people because of it. Then I'd need to tell people to calm down and step away from my stuff for a week or two.

Also, my characters for Moonflowers are damn awesome. I thought a newer guy would be a minor character mostly for worldbuilding and character development purposes, and instead he has a REALLY good way to kick the plot into motion.

edited 23rd Jul '14 9:05:48 AM by Sharysa

electronic-tragedy PAINKILLER from Wherever I need to be Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
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#25098: Jul 23rd 2014 at 10:55:22 AM

So I cut a character because I thought they didn't give anything to the story other than being another voice. I feel bad now that the main team is composed of two males and one female (the MC), but I think the story works better now. The three were better planned anyways.

edited 23rd Jul '14 10:55:56 AM by electronic-tragedy

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SabresEdge Show an affirming flame from a defense-in-depth Since: Oct, 2010
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#25099: Jul 23rd 2014 at 11:41:50 AM

[up][up][up]Pretty much what Sharysa said. I'd expect some readers to react differently to my characters than I would. Plus, I made a conscious decision that all the important characters are humanized to some degree, and that I'd try to avoid caricaturing, even for the villains. The reader is meant to feel some understanding of them, if not sympathy, but I can see some readers getting those mixed up.

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MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#25100: Jul 23rd 2014 at 12:53:43 PM

I try and not think of future fan treatment unless it's problematic stuff, because for now I need to focus on making a good story. Also I find it egotistical to worry about something that will only come if I'm successful.

Read my stories!

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