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Video Game//Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Ivalice is The Garden of Eden and Marche was Adam
The Writers didn't want any bad consequences for anything, and just didn't think about any implications.
Wanting to stay in a Platonic Cave is bad...but the notion of a Dream Apocalypse is disheartening. So the writers went the Sweet and Sour Grapes route. Ivalice was fake. Ivalice was real. There is no contradiction. :Jedi Mind Trick:
Marche was being manipulated by the Totema to remove his and his friends' influence on Ivalice.
After accidentally freeing the first Totema, they start telling him exactly what he wants to hear: that Ivalice is "fake" and that he has to destabilize the world to return himself and his unwilling friends to their own world. Oddly, he accepts the contradictory idea that all of his native friends in Ivalice will be fine if he does this.
Ivalice is fake because Marche wants it to be.
Ultimately, the Book turned Marche and his friends into Reality Warpers. Ivalice became what they wanted it to be. Marche didn't want to be there, but he needed a reason. So Ivalice/His Subconscious gave him one. He still has to convince or break the wills of the others before he can change it back, though. Which leads to...
Marche subconsciously created the Ivalice Alliance World
The Ivalice of Final Fantasy XII came about so that Marche wouldn't feel guilty about destroying the "fake" Ivalice, even while he justified it as not being real. This is where all new souls who were present in Ivalice the World but not the Earth City of Ivalice ended up in.
The Ivalice of FFTA is a temporary fusion of geography and people from Earth and the "actual" Ivalice.
No one dies; everyone gets sent back to their respective real world with memories of the "fake Ivalice" mostly missing... and then Luso gets sent over to the real thing by a different Grimoire.
FFTA (and FFTA2) is a deconstruction of Fan Fiction
Since they found the Grimoire, they are the "Authors" of their "Story"; they created the world. It's one big fic because it takes place in the world of Final Fantasy Tactics, which they are all fans of.
More Evidence:
Marche wanted to be a supervillain
Think about it for a sec. He has working for him a group of mercenaries. He has a right hand man full of useful information. He wants to destroy the world. These are classic signs of supervillany. In addition everyone else got exactly what they wanted, to walk, normal hair, and a mom. Everybody but Marche who seemingly was so cool with his life he dragged everyone back from their stunning fantasy world to a not as cool real world, where all the problems that the alternate had fixed were back.
Marche was right
Shocking I know.
Ivalice was a World Half Empty
More specifically, it was heaven for its makers and hell for almost everyone else. This is more evident in the Japanese version, which talks of how many innocent people are dying in the nonstop battles, and also makes Mewt, Ritz, and Doned much more self-centered and annoying. For bonus points, pay close attention the first time you rescue Professor Auggie—the zombies you slay bear the same names as the kids who bullied Mewt in the beginning, inviting the question of whether he deliberately made them into wandering lost souls.
Marche destroyed Ivalice out of jealously
All of his friends are happier there while his first steps in Ivalice are filled with accidental racism and awkward conversation with the natives. (Why yes, he looks -exactly- like a teddy bear Marche...)
"Ivalice" is actually Purgatory
Mewt found the Necronomicon and it killed all of them by sucking out their blood to use as ink for the new pages it crafted from their skinned hides.
Marche is a messiah figure much like Jesus Christ, by "destroying" Ivalice he is actually leading himself and the other lost souls to Heaven. Montblanc is his guardian angel sent to help him on his journey. Mewt's "mother" is Satan. The judges are her angels. The Totema are god's angels and the only reason they told Marche it's all just an escapist fantasy is so he'll lead his friends to Heaven without knowing it. The prison for lawbreakers is hell.
Montblanc is Marche's Manic Pixie Dream Boy
While Shara serves Ritz as an advisor while Mewt has Babus as his own servant, Montblanc is Marche's Manic Pixie Dream Boy. He helps him to get out of the world, and it's more clear in its radio drama.
A Grimoire is a tome of history, and a magical tome of history therefore...
The Grimoire was an attempt to perform a magic analogous to spheres, which could contain TRUE information on anything, by putting the TRUE information in a book. The best way to put this is that like Borges's map, the book is so accurately written that by altering the book, reality itself changes. The Grimoire was the only attempt by Ivaliceans to record history, in this case, the Lion's war and the various clan (family) wars going on in the past. St.Ivalice, the Ivalice Marche comes from, is actually Ivalice in the future, because after some sort of cataclysm that wipes out magic and magic lifeforms, humanity rebuilds itself into something resembling the modern age. St. Ivalice is named not only after the original country, but it's name has also become mixed with the local religion of St. Ajora. Hence, St.Ivalice. Mankind has forgotten about the races of the past, whose secrets are only remembered in old, yet still magical tomes. Mewt makes a personal wish on the magic of the grimoire, and then chooses to also give his friends their wishes. The grimoire is not a wish granter, but it can recreate the age of magic from the "truth" by applying it to the modern world to technically grant the wish, and it does so through the friend's wish's lens- Thus we get FFTA. Marche is of course able to stop this madness, because he is a descendant of the surviving Beoulve family, who obviously went by different names after The war of the lions. This explains the familial resemblance between Ramza and Marche. However, once the weird mix of past and present is removed, there is an after effect: The 'truth' has been affected, altered, and history itself is changed, and the repercussions make even Chronos's eyes go crossways. In the time of Magic, time duplicates of those whose actions had major repercussions are created, in this case, Marche, and possibly only Marche. Marche may have inadvertently created his own ancestor's ancestor, but I digress. This Marche goes on to become a high ranking judge, who then suffers the fate of dying against a certain dragon by boldly choosing to fight it alone, slightly before the time of FFXII. FFTA 2 Occurs because Mewt understands the power of the book and takes extra special care of it, and probably even sets up Luso's sojourn, and uses it in a more proper way: It's a way for others to travel into the past and learn about it. Any other appearances of Luso in Ivalice are him messing about in the past in a slightly alternate timeline for a return trip for kicks. Balthier just has a time machine.
The whole thing was a Batman Gambit by Li-Grim to make a permanent world.
Li-Grim has created worlds for the other owners of the Grimoire in the past but they were destroyed when the owner died and the cycle repeats itself with a new world being created every so often and being destroyed in a matter of decades. The other owners were all essentially an Author Avatar and thus the "Hero" of their story. When Mewt buys the book and takes it over to Marche's place Li-Grim devises a plan to break the cycle by having them choose to leave willingly. She Knows that only Marche would want to leave so she creates the Totema who convince him that it's an illusion, which she reinforces at the end so he can honestly tell that to the others. She sets up the rest of the world with Mewt as the "Hero" with Cid, Ritz and Doned set up with everything they want. She sets Marche up as the "Villain", to tear the world apart and convince the others to willingly go home. After Marche and co. defeat her she's able to use her powers to create a world tied to her own, presumably infinite, lifespan saving most of the people and places from "Dream Ivalice" along with other ideas in the process.
The Gukko storyline was Li-Grim's original 'Plot' to keep the kids focused.
Even if the kids had this world crafted for them by sacrificing there original world and turning it's inhabitants (save the kids reading the book) into puppets based on the whims of said children, there still needs to be tell tale signs that it's a 'Game' and the idea was the Gukko plot, give us a villainous organization to be taken down by the 'Heroes of Ivalice' to forward them along, it starts off small, has a hectic middle act and finally a climactic battle against a demon. Also the mission chain is 20 missions long and involves liberating most of the cities as well as throwing back to familiar elements in past Final Fantasy games which were on the kids brains.
The Ivalice in FFTA was real.
As an earlier WMG has pointed out, the Totema were based off of pretty much fallen angels who were likely not good sources of information. But my main argument is actually that all the characters, even the "fake" ones, had thoughts and emotions. You can practically hear the sadness in Babus' voice and the contempt in Llednar Twem's. They were not zombies. We can tell because there were actual zombies involved, too. I am not arguing that the Ivalice was the same Ivalice in FFT and FF 12, just that it was an actual world, and that Marche was manipulated into committing mass murder.
Marche will appear in a 3rd Dissidia...
On the side of Chaos (Ramza is on Cosmos obviously)! It will function as Ascended Fanon to the fan guessing and as an excuse to avoid figuring out who is the "true" villain (AND if they make a good fight) for FFT if they put Ramza in.
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