No Such Thing as Space Jesus
aka: Space Jesus
"What does God need with a starship?"
Sufficiently Advanced Aliens
are very common in sci-fi, and they will often claim to be
actual deities. In some cases, they'll be actual, historically worshipped deities
like Apollo or Thor.
Unless under some sort of mind control or from a "primitive" culture, the heroes will never treat a Sufficiently Advanced Alien
as a deity, or even consider the possibility that they might just be right. Some Earthlings might fall for the "alien", but they will be shown to be weak-minded to be taken in by these "gods".
For something like the Puppeteer Parasite
whose "miracles" are born from technological prowess
, this is reasonable enough, but for beings like the Q
or the Ori
or various Eldritch Abominations
in fiction, who have immense, unexplainable powers that genuinely seem god-like in nature, it stretches (dis)belief. The only reason they should be considered "just" powerful aliens seems to be "they came from Outer Space
", which doesn't really make all that much sense if you think about it - if there is a deity who created everything, and you could physically meet them, why should a divine encounter only happen on Earth? Other views on why such entities are considered aliens instead is also due to the prevalence of Clarke's Third Law
and its corollaries
in science fiction and real life science, and because the words "god" and "magic" brings up connotations of worship and superstition.
An interesting irony in this is that Heaven
is generally regarded as being in, or above, the sky, and that most cultures tend to look upward when thinking about their deity or deities.
The page quote comes from Star Trek V: The Final Frontier
, and demonstrates a (possibly unconscious) problem with this trope: characters are automatically going to disbelieve if the self-proclaimed deity runs against their view of what God
is or should be. Sure, the Judeo-Christian God would have no need for a starship, but Helios
had a chariot and Ra
had a barge (and The Bible does
describe God as possessing a chariot made of angels
)... The entity is momentarily believed (if not by Kirk) because it pretends to be the God of monotheism. Had he said he was Quetzalcoatl
, one suspects our heroes would have been a little less credulous. Of course, to a monotheist, the concept of any entity claiming to be "a" god (as in, one among others) is a contradiction in terms and to be dismissed out of hand.
See also Sufficiently Advanced Alien
, Arbitrary Skepticism
, and Ancient Astronauts
. Not to be confused with If Jesus Then Aliens
which in some ways is almost the reverse. No Such Thing as Wizard Jesus
is how Jesus will continue to be worshiped and not suspected of being anything other than the son of God even if an alien superhero named Josys from the planet Beaven is running around doing everything he can do and more.
Has nothing to do with Space Jews
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- Averted in Plan 9 from Outer Space, in what could have been a very interesting moment had Ed Wood not glossed right over it.
: It is because of men like you that all must die! No use of the mind God gave you! Jeff
: You talk of God!? Eros
: Is it so hard to believe that we
might also think of God?
- Inverted in the anti-Mormonism film The God Makers, which has an odd animation describing how Mormons believe God and His followers come from a planet called Kobol. This, like much of the information in the film, can be chalked up to sloppy research; in the Mormon Book of Abraham Kolob is supposedly the star or planet nearest where God currently resides, not the planet he came from. However, there IS such a thing as Mormon Jesus.
- In The Avengers, as Captain America prepares to dive into a battle involving Thor and Loki:
These guys are from legend. They're basically gods. Captain America:
There's only one God, ma'am. And I'm pretty sure He doesn't dress like that.
- Played straight in Man of Steel when young Clark asks his father if God is responsible for giving him power, Jonathan says no and shows him the space pod that brought him to Earth. This also counts as a subversion of If Jesus Then Aliens.
- Inverted in Prince of Darkness. The book of prophecies pretty much says that Jesus was an alien who fought the Antichrist.
- Computer scientists build the world's most powerful computer, far more powerful than any previous computer. They ask it, "Is there a God?". The computer hesitates for a moment and then replies, "Now there is." This is actually the plot of a Flash Fiction story by Fredric Brown called Answer.
- By the end of Gentry Lee's Rendezvous with Rama series of novels, it's heavily implied that the eponymous ship, and the other ships like it, were constructed by God - the God - for the purpose of conducting an intergalactic survey of His creations. Much of the conflict in the later novels arises from the way the characters behave in the light of this revelation.
- Just to clarify, God made very little of the Rama survey ships or the system behind them. Rather, according to the robots behind the "survey", moments after the very, very first big bang (the Rama series assumes the theory of big bang > snapback > big bang > snapback, etc.), a tiny nanite factory of sorts was created, with instructions to create the necessary infrastructure to, and to go about, watching and taking note of any civilization making steps toward Utopian society. Every recurring "'big bang", the process begins anew, the eventual goal being to find the key pattern to creating a true, eternal Utopia— without violating free will by just making Utopia and rendering the whole affair pointless. The only source of this information is, importantly, according to the robots, who themselves make certain to point out they were just programmed with this knowledge, and can't exactly give any real proof besides the scale of their operation and its goals.
- Interestingly, in the original novel actually written by Arthur C. Clarke, one of the characters is a member of a church that believes Jesus really was an alien or at least from outer space. Although his belief is never confirmed or denied by the Rama spacecraft. In the end he's just a competent crewman with a strange personal belief.
- Ray Bradbury
- In the short story "The Man," there is such a thing as Space Jesus! You just missed him, though; he left planet yesterday. Good luck finding him. His body may have left, but his spirit's still in the Temple. It always is, right?
- And in "The Fire Balloons" (from The Martian Chronicles) two ministers try to make a Space Jesus representation to some aliens, but it turns out that they've had their Jesus Analogue and are well aware of The Faith.
- Also from Arthur C. Clarke, in The Space Odyssey Series, the builders of the Monoliths appear to have ascended to Godhood by the start of the series and went on to convert Dave Bowman into this semblance of Godhood.
- Averted in the Cthulhu Mythos. While the Great Old Ones and the Outer Gods are "merely" immensely powerful extradimensional entities, they are often referred as gods and worshiped by various cults. After all, what else do you call something like Yog-Sothoth, who is eternal, omniscient and pretty much all-powerful, not to mention completely unbound by our 4-dimensional universe? Especially when you consider that Cthulhu is effectively the space pope (with his fellow Deep Ones being the clergy), preparing our (world?/universe?/Dimension?/Time?/Reality?) for the Great Old ones (who ARE gods, or at least godlike).
- In The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, followers of Great Prophet Zarquon (a Jesus-like being who promised to return) are mocked by a stand-up comedian at Milliways, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe. Zarquon then proceeds to show up, apologize for being late... and then disappear when the Universe ends.
- Let's not forget Thor's cameo in Milliway's, and then the characters all go to freaking Asgard in And Another Thing.
- Also, there's the babel fish, which are such obvious proof of God that he can't possibly exist, and God's last message to all creation, written in huge flaming letters: We Apologize For the Inconvenience.
- Toyed with in Book of the New Sun where God is real, but it seems quite clear that he is a sufficiently advanced alien from an alternate dimension manipulating humanity from afar. This does not stop any Urth religions from worshiping this alien as God.
- C. S. Lewis generally averts this, most notably in The Space Trilogy, which is pretty much about Space Jesus.
- The possibility of Sufficiently Advanced Aliens is briefly discussed by Richard Dawkins in The God Delusion. The conclusion he reaches is that even if such beings were to exist, they would necessarily postdate the Universe as a whole and would ultimately have a natural origin-as such they do not meet the definition of gods used by the book.note
- One of the most common plotlines in Star Trek. Apollo, Satan(!) and Quetzalcoatl have all been "explained" away as Sufficiently Advanced Aliens as have a number of fictional alien gods. Oh, and Q once claimed to be "the" God. (He was probably kidding.)
- The Q are an interesting case because, by most measures, they are gods. In fact there are plenty of deities that have been (or are currently) worshiped by real world religions who seem to be several orders of magnitude less powerful than the Q. Even if they started off mortal, they hit A God Am I status a long time ago.
- Certainly some of the large-scale demonstrations of Q power, such as Q putting Bre'el IV's moon back into a safe orbit or Amanda Rogers completely restoring the entire planetary ecosystem of Tagra IV would provoke a massive upsurge in religious fervor if they were to happen in real life 21st Century Earth. Presumably, the more advanced a civilization becomes the harder it is to impress them. Plus, only a select few like Picard have seen (or at least remember) some of the even bigger things Q has done, such as rewriting history (or the future) on-demand.
- In the episode "Tapestry", Captain Picard "dies" and encounters Q:
Picard: Q, what is going on?
Q: I told you. You're dead, this is the afterlife, and I'm God.
Picard: [laughs scornfully] You are not God!
Q: Blasphemy! You're lucky I don't cast you out, or smite you, or something. The bottom line is, your life ended about five minutes ago under the inept ministrations of Dr. Beverly Crusher.
Picard: No, I am not dead. Because I refuse to believe that the afterlife is run by you. The universe is not so badly designed.
- As for "Satan", that wasn't explained away. That was just a con-artist pretending to be Satan (and a bunch of other dark entities from various interstellar religions). Satan never actually appeared in the franchise.
- In TOS episode "Bread and Circuses," the planet 892-IV with its 20th-century Roman civilization is implied to have had an actual Jesus along with its other historical figures from that era.
- Averted by Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: Ben Sisko begins with the usual Federation attitude towards the Prophets, but gradually changes towards a more mystical, even devout view of them; note how he ceases to call them "Wormhole Aliens" in favor of "Prophets", the Bajoran religious term. Of course, being The Chosen One of this religion (and discovering that they orchestrated his birth) probably goes a long way towards that, even if it took him several seasons to get used to the idea. The Prophets are not actually supernatural, however-they're non-linear beings, and thus can "see into the future" because for them it exists simultaneously.
- The non-changelings of the Dominion seem to have little problem believing in Space Jesus, as they know the Founders are an alien race, yet still consider them gods. Its noted though that the Founders actually genetically-engineered these species to worship them-and in the Expanded Universe, its revealed that the Founders have their own God....and accidentally get him killed. Woops.
- When it's pointed out that the Founders genetically engineered the Vorta and the Jem'Hadar to worship them as gods, one Vorta responds that he knows, and that it's what you expect of gods.
- A slight variation in Star Trek: Voyager, where Chakotay meets the "sky spirits" of his (non-specific) Native American beliefs. While it is confirmed that they had direct interaction and cultural exchange with his native ancestors leading to their mythology, they do not particularly claim to be Gods.
- "Code of Honor" from Star Trek: The Next Generation's first season could give it a run for its money.
- Before his departure, the Klingon prophet Kahless pointed to a star and said that would be where he would someday return. After they developed interstellar travel, Klingons went to that star and built temples on a habitable planet in that system to wait for his return. Worf was there fasting and praying when he showed up. And then he turned out to be a clone.
- But then a priest asks "How do you know this is not how the prophecy was to be fulfilled?" Well, how DO you?
- Babylon 5:
- The First Ones - notably the Vorlons who have engaged in some very specifically religious meddling in the affairs of several species, and Lorien - who had been a patron to their millennia old culture.
- Both invoked and averted: This is the central theme of the first story in the Tales From Babylon 5 DVD movie, which revolves around a man on Babylon 5 who is apparently possessed by a demon. The priest brought in to deal with the situation gives a long speech about how churches are emptying because people haven't found God in the heavens (apparently people in the future think extremely literally and expect to find some old bearded guy in white robe floating around the crab nebula, while ignoring any kind of significant religious experience down on boring old terra firma). While the possibility that the "demon" is an alien is raised early on, the ending leaves it open and even seems to lean towards the supernatural. Either way this is the creature behind the legend.
- Earlier episodes included a new religion that believes "God" is too big a concept for any one tradition to grasp, and a group of monks seeking to learn every name and view of God across the various species.
- This "new" religion is actually Catholicism, as the monk mentions he and his order has been authorized by the Pope and bishops to conduct this mission. This is an instance of earthly Christians looking for space Jesus almost literally.
- The Minbari religion gets a mention for apparently having no supernatural beliefs whatsoever; this may be related to their special relationship with the Vorlons. Note that there is such a thing as a soul in Babylon 5, which can be extracted with a machine and imprisoned in small orbs. The Minbari (and others) don't just believe in reincarnation, they can actually measure it.
- One of the themes in the series is that it really doesn't matter if God exists or not, faith and religion will continue to be important to people, no matter what.
- Almost the whole point of Stargate SG-1. The series ran so long and addressed the reality of so many myths and religions that anything even related to Jesus was conspicuously absent[note]That does not stop them for making several allegories to Christianity, such as a the Origin religion, Stargate also features an actual mediaeval Christian village brought by Goa'uld, not pretending to be god but the Abrahamic Satan (technically he is the inspiration for Abrahamic Satan, the Egyptian god Sokar)[/note] , prompting one to think that Jesus wasn't real or in any case wasn't as powerful an historical figure as Merlin, Ba'al, Buddha, or even Thor, despite him looking like a Roswell Grey (with holograms to appear like whatever their followers worship).
- It gets a bit blurry with the Ori: they are ascended mortals, which would be more than enough to qualify them as gods in several Fantasy settings and more than one real-world religion; however, one of the major running themes in the show is that even though being extremely powerfulnote does not make someone a god. They also point out that, while the Ori are the closest to gods in the universe as far as mortals know, worshiping them still isn't a good idea because it only makes you a blind follower, and someone less susceptible to Ascend to a Higher Plane of Existence (while giving more powers to the lucky bastards who already ascended).
- Various villains call out to this trope on how their enemies keep insisting that they are not gods, but otherwise fail to mention anything on "what makes someone a god?", thereby leaving a hole that the only reason they aren't gods being that someone says so.
- Only directly brought up once. On finding a medieval-European style town on a planet, complete with church, cross, and witch-burning minister, Teal'c says that he knows of no Goa'uld that is capable of the love and compassion displayed by Jesus in The Bible. Turns out that episode's Goa'uld was impersonating Satan instead.
- Doctor Who:
- In the original series, the Fourth and Fifth Doctor's encountered the Black and White Guardians of Time, who seemed to be Anthropomorphic Personifications of Chaos and Order, or else more than Sufficiently Advanced Aliens who had taken it upon themselves to fulfill those roles. Whether or not this implies the existence of a still-hgher power is left unclear. They do need The Key to Time to maintain the balance of the universe. Partially subverted in that since the Time Lords are themselves SAA's, the Guardians are not wholly beyond their comprehension. The Doctor and Romana refer to the Key as "Guardian technology" and the Doctor is seemingly able to keep the Black Guardian at bay by fully-activating the defense systems of the TARDIS.
- In another episode, "Pyramids of Mars", the Monster of the Week is Sutekh, whose personality and history heavily resembles the same god from Egyptian mythology and possesses very god-like powers (said by the Doctor to be "near-limitless"). Again, it is not clarified whether this is another alien encounter or something completely different. Sutekh is specifically said to be an Osirian, and that he was imprisoned on Mars by the leadership of his planet.
- Played straight in many episodes, however, where the local religious fanatics would be worshiping something that would later turn out to be either advanced alien technology or some kind of native animal; see "The Curse of Peladon", "The Face of Evil", etc.
- Played with in in the episode "The Satan Pit", where the Doctor finds Satan chained up on the edge of a black hole. The episode never clarifies if it's just a Sufficiently Advanced Alien, actually Satan, or a Sufficiently Advanced Alien that inspired legends of Satan, but all theories are put forward by different characters.
- Beings from the Pre-Universe or Post-Universe tend to have immeasurable and inexplicable powers due to operating by their Laws of Physics rather than those of the current Universe. However, by the same token they also tend to have at least one inane shortcoming that allows them to be defeated.
- Averted in Space Station 13, where the default religious figure for a Chaplain is Space Jesus. The administrators of the server can portray themselves in-character as said deity when the Chaplain prays to them.
- In Starcraft, the Xel'naga are an ancient alien race that created both the Protoss and the Zerg and they are shown to be very, very powerful, so much so that the Protoss worship them as gods.
- However, most gods aren't slaughtered by their creations, that's the Mad Scientist's job.
- Very awkwardly averted by the Naaru of World of Warcraft. They don't particularly say they are deities (or say anything since they speak though wind chimes in your brain), just extremely holy. There isn't a single NPC that speaks ill of them, even though part of their life cycle is a black hole that devours souls. Epileptic Trees surround them to the effect of this trope, but the issue is brushed under the rug as they were barely featured in the following expansion.
- One Naaru, however, did go mad and turn into a Raid Boss.
- If you know the way the Light works, however, this makes a bit more sense. The Light (that the Naaru serve and most of the Alliance worship) is not a deity, so much as the collective good will of the universe—karma that you can get divine spells from. The Naaru are the physical form of that; much closer to angels than gods.
- The Jenkinsverse plays with the idea that the intellectual underpinnings of religion - imagination, inventiveness, a tendency to see conscious agency behind apparently random events, a profound sense of spiritual connection to the universe and the desire to makes sense of it - have been essential to the survival and success of the human race, given that Earth is a Death World. Most aliens, hailing as they do from softer and easier planets, never needed nor invented religion. When the interstellar community is first introduced to the concept of theism via the unfiltered perspective of a depressed, misanthropic antitheist, they not unreasonably conclude that Humans Are Insane.
- Bender almost at once calls the sentient nebula he encounters God. He comes close to this trope when he says that God wouldn't use binary code, but he realizes that a space probe which "collided with God" would. It is not exactly confirmed, but it is heavily implied that the nebula is indeed Him. This is probably a mixture of Star Trek V (as above) and The Changeling, an Original Series episode in which a robot probe collides with something and becomes sentient (although in The Changeling, the probe decides Kirk is God). And to Star Trek The Motion Picture, in which an alien-altered probe becomes a god by the end of the film. And Kirk claims to be it's "God".
- It should be said that while there is no mention of Space Jesus, there is a Space Pope.◊
- There is mention of robot Jesus though. The robot Jews believe that He was built, and that He was a well-programmed robot, but they don't believe He was the robot Messiah.
- And a zombie Jesus, possibly connected to His second coming "in 2148". It may or may not have erased most of the VHS tapes.
- Star Trek: The Animated Series rehashes this trope in episode 22, "How Sharper Than A Serpent's Tooth", in which a winged alien, Kukulkan, which had served as a patron to humans millennia earlier (causing the Mayans to worship it), returns to trade anvilicious rhetoric with Kirk. At the episode's end, Spock mentions that the alien had visited Vulcan, too, and "left much wiser".
- Averted in the Transformers franchise. Despite the technology, there's much of the divine and mystical in Cybertronian culture, and most of it proves to be genuine. Unicron is a good example, as he's rarely treated as anything other than an evil supernatural force, and is generally dealt with by use of a sacred relic (the Autobot Matrix of Leadership.)
- A good part of the second season of Transformers Prime, in particular, revolves around several mystical artifacts, the most important being the Omega Keys (though the Forge of Solus Prime played a big part, too).
- Both the Voyager 1 photo of Earth commonly known as the Pale Blue Dot and the vastness of the universe in general are popular arguments against theists who claim the universe was fine-tuned to produce humans, but the fact that the universe is vast and we are so small doesn't really bother theists who believe that God's children reside on other worlds as well. The two examples that come to mind are Islam and Mormonism, and Catholicism has entertained the question more than once.
- Baha'i doctrine is explicit that there is life on other planets.
- Similarly, Vatican spokesmen have stated that to dismiss the existence of anything without reason is to doubt the creative power of God, meaning it's technically sinful, even blasphemous (using the technical definition of that term) not to believe in the possibility of aliens.
- Mormonism believes that there is sentient life on other worlds, and they are all (more or less) Human Aliens, and that Jesus Christ is their Messiah too. And while Jesus lived on Earth, the throne of God is nearest to Kolob.
- Islam already believes in non-human sentient life in the form of spirits and ifrits and other dimensions. Life on other planets isn't too far a stretch. In fact most religions seem to be pretty okay with the concept, even traditional ones like Orthodox and Catholic Christianity and Hinduism. Its kinda hard to lose your faith because you see photographic proof of how small and helpless you are in the face of the immensity of the universe when you spend most of your life believing in your smallness and helplessness in the face of God.
- Some Christian philosophers including C. S. Lewis have also replied to this argument by pointing out that, following the doctrine of redemption note , it's possible that humanity merits God's special attention precisely because we are the least significant and most sinful moral beings in the universe.
- In The Discarded Image, Lewis also points out that religious thought prior to the scientific age (even in ancient times) tended to emphasize the lowliness of man compared to the divine. It was only once the concept of evolution was accepted that man started thinking of himself as being at the top of a ladder of life, and dreaming of subjugating nature to his will. Whatever scientific materialism has done, it certainly hasn't made humanity less conceited.
- Another uncomfortable topic to bring up in a religious discussion is that modern humanity is already sufficiently advanced to do things that would have seemed miraculous in the past, or at least, we have rudimentary technologies that demonstrate the possibility of that with a certain amount of development. In the 1800s finding naturalistic explanations of miracles was actually regarded as an *affirmation* of the Christian faith specifically, though the practice rapidly fell into disfavor again once churches realized that it sort of negated the need for a creator deity altogether.