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  • Error/http code 413 is 'The requested entity is too large'.
  • This may just be a coincidence, but looking at a group picture of the trolls and kids, something becomes apparent: There are 6 female trolls. 1/2 of them have long hair(Vriska, Feferi, and Aradia), while the other half(Terezi, Nepeta, and Kanaya) don't. 6 and 1/2. when you remove the signs and spaces, you get 612.
    • The kids have their own version of above. There are 4 kids. 1 of them(Jade) has long hair. The other 3(John, Rose, and Dave) don't. 4, 1, and 3. Put it all together, and you get 413.
    • The post-scratch kids fit the pattern as well. All of them have short hair. 1111
    • Another interpretation of 413 and 612 is 4 kids turning 13 years old and 12 trolls turning 6 sweeps old.
  • There's a recurring chess motif, and Vriska thinks of herself as The Chessmaster who's been manipulating the kids and trolls. There are 12 trolls, and four kids. How many pieces are there on one side in any given game of chess?
    • And the Felt consists of the 15 gang members plus Doc Scratch, making another set of 16. And Doc Scratch and Vriska play chess against each other!
  • Post-scratch troll society is extremely different from the pre-scratch version, but post and pre-scratch Earth are almost exactly the samenote . Most people attribute this to Doc Scratch, but there's another reason - in Alternia/Beforus, the Ancestors arrive thousands of sweeps before the Players. In the Earth sessions, the difference is 500 years at most.
    • Besides, the pre-scratch kids already are excellent players. The only reason their session was doomed was Vriska's interference (aka predestination). Other than that, they've all managed to reach God Tier within 24 hours - of all the trolls it seems that only Vriska did, then Aradia and Gamzee, but only after the end of the game proper; Dave and Jade bred the perfect frog within the same amount of time, while trolls ultimately did not do it properly at all; they initiated the Scratch and then all survived. There was simply no reason to change anything else. Unlike the trolls, they already were good enough.
  • ~ATH = "til' death"
  • Why does Trollian work with the kid's AIM-esque Pesterchum? Because Trollian allows the user to combine several IM accounts, AIM included.
  • The scratch is supposed to be like a deal with the devil where the session will be reset with things changed to make the players more ready to play the game. The post scratch troll universe had Doc Scratch making troll society into a violent society to prepare the trolls for Sburb. In the post scratch human universe The Condesce makes life harder for Jane through constant assassination attempt as well as Dirk and Roxy due to her conquering of earth making them more suited to take on the game.
    • The assassination attempts likely came from Alpha!Mom and Alpha!Bro. A human has the same lifespan as the caste Karkat would have been, so the Condesce would just have to wait a few decades before Jane would die naturally.
    • The alpha humans were Nobles. Not Heroes. The beta humans are still the Heroes of the alpha session because it's a Void Session.
  • John is, for the most part, The Hero of the story. Someone who opposes the hero is usually an antagonist. Karkat is, functionally, a counterpart of sorts to John. In the zodiac, what is the sign "opposing" Cancer? Capricorn.
    • Can also work on a different level, considering recent events involving the Capricorn Troll and Karkat…
  • The song used in this animation, apart from being awesome, actually has in-story significance: as a recent update reveals, the pre-Scratch versions of the troll Ancestors have managed to avoid fading away along with their doomed timeline, lingering on to become key figures in the Alpha Session Even In Death.
  • When the kids and the trolls arrive in the Alpha universe, the trolls take up the six mythological roles that the kids haven't used. We have: a Mage of Doom, a Bard of Rage, a Thief, a Sylph, a hero of Mind, and a hero of Blood.
  • John and Karkat are both considered hammy and sick, both for opposite reasons.
    • Karkat wields a sickle. His human-equivalent in ranking would be the Untouchable, or if we're using Europe, the Serf. Both can't get jobs outside of farming. John wields a hammer. His latest actions put the alpha timeline back together by removing any impurities in the events.
  • Why does Dad Egbert love baking cakes so much? His mother is Jane Crocker in the Beta session. Jane, as we all know, is the heiress to the Betty Crocker fortune.
  • THIS.
    • Nanna died first though.
      • But not before Grandpa left her alone to deal with the Batterwitch while he went on adventures.
  • Somewhat Fridge Horror but has anyone ever noticed that the kids' Guardians' eyes are never shown, and the ones that do show them have the same eyes as the ghosts, and their meteors had nothing to absorb the landing like an old lady or a horse? Not to mention the fact that Grandpa Harley's eyes look identical to the dead off-shoot John's even when he's 'alive'. A possible answer is that since Lord English, the only character to ever kill a ghost, has First Guardian Powers, and the kids' Guardians deaths could all be traced to someone with First Guardian powers. (John's grandma from the reckoning which was started by Jack/ Dave's Bro in a fight with Jack/ Rose's mom along with John's dad from Jack interrupting them and Jade's grandpa from a shot that Bec redirected)This begs the question: Is ghost killing a Lord English exclusive, or a First Guardian power?
    • And if this is true, then that gives Bro's fight with Jack some fridge logic too. Since Dirk's (B2 Bro) title translates to 'destroyer of souls' and Jaspersprite is half eldritch princess, that would make Bro vs Jack the prince of heart vs the princess of heart.
  • One of Jadesprite's many, many problems is that she cannot stop seeing the Green Sun, an experience that is apparently painful. Why don't the other First Guardians have this problem? The other Guardians don't have eyes.
    • In fact, First Guardians are specifically engineered NOT to experience this: the only difference in appearance between Bec, Earth's First Guardian, and Halley, the dog he was cloned from, is a lack of eyes, meaning that the DNA code applied to Halley that gave him the First Guardian powers also removed his eyes.
  • The conversation between Kanaya and Jade. They were talking about the fact they were both Prospit dreamers that awoke rather early in life. Kanaya explains that Doc Scratch showed up one day and she awoke on Prospit very early. Kanaya then remarks Jade was lucky she didn't have an influence like that in her life. BUT being a Doc Scratch was First Guardian and awoke Kanaya's dreamself, it seems plausible that Bec, a First Guardian, might have been responsible for Jade's early awakening.
  • The Green Sun has twice the mass of the universe. To create it, two universes had to be destroyed.
  • Why is the Green Sun green while its components are red and blue? Because it couldn't be created until both the universes were destroyed. If you take a picture and remove red and blue from it, the only colors remaining will be shades of green.
    • Fun Factoid: When one looks at a nebula or a star with just the eye looking into a telescope, it will appear green, because the only spectral lines we can see are oxygen, the green lines. Sun is just another way of saying "star".
  • Consider the crowning of Peregrine Mendicant as Queen of Exile Town. It may seem like a simple Awesome Moment of Crowning, but if you recall in the past, PM managed to infiltrate the throne room of Derse (the Dark Kingdom) and survived to complete her task. With the Skaian Chess Motifs in mind, PM was a pawn that made it to the opposite side of the board and got promoted into a queen.
    • This fancomic spells out just how well PM's adventures fit the 'chess pawn' theme.
      • It also makes sense, because the Mendicant is a pawn at the time, which means that she can't do anything to those that are behind her, so the droll when pickpocketing her will succeed no matter what because that's how chess is played.
      • Pawns can only move forward until someone before them comes into a space diagonal to them.
  • WV presses the tab key. It unlocks a secret trove of Tab soda. Hilarity Ensues. Then he presses the Caps Lock key, and... unlocks a book on etiquette? WHAT ON EARTH DOES A CAPS LOCK KEY HAVE TO DO WITH ETIQ—
    • Ooooooooooooooh!
    • And when he activates it again the capsule locks.
    • The joke is actually a bit simpler than that. WV has been typing in ALL CAPS before hitting the Caps Lock key, so he almost gets a double dose of etiquette.
  • A Tearjerker sort of Fridge Brilliance is this page. Learn WV's origins and come back. Yeah. Pretty much everything he does is much Harsher in Hindsight.
  • In the ending of the Act 5 Flash, PM puts on the ring and is as strong as Bec Noir. She then teleports into the Troll's universe to fight and, hopefully, kill Bec Noir. What's brilliant? It's a postal worker fighting a dog.
  • Way back in the beginning, AR's hatred of illegal pictography and illicit amphibian idolatry seem to be just because of his personality - but he's a Dersite, so of course he hates any mention of frogs!
  • When WV tries opening a can with his teeth in the base, it is shown that his teeth are made for chewing things like plants. He eats a pumpkin, a plant, some... Uranium? Green Chalk? Why would he do that? Simple: Both are green, just like plants! That is also why he eats the pages of the book-paper is made out of plant matter.
  • PM and Bec Noir are dogfighting.
  • When the Wayward Vagabond drew the planets of his session on the wall of the capsule, he was literally Painting The Medium!
  • How did PM override Bec's loyalty in [S]: Collide? She didn't. Instead, she found a way to use it as an advantage: Bec's objective is to keep Jade safe. In knocking Jade out (itself fridge brilliance, as she could easily have just killed her but didn't because her Bec self wouldn't allow it) and attacking someone she knows is a threat, she was trying to protect her, or at least could rationalize it that way.
    • [1] suggests that it is because she is able to reconcile her feelings towards Jade, due to being able to process positive emotions. Bec Noir, with less experience with positive emotions, is less able to process the nuances of feelings he is experiencing.
  • The Ship Tease with Alpha!Lalonde and Jane's dad can be attributed to Beta!Lalonde and John's dad being in a relationship as well.
  • Jake just accidentally killed a fairybull. He feels just awful. Does this remind you of anything???
  • It should've been obvious that the letter in the mailbox was a trap, since it's taking place on 11/11, Veteran's Day. Mail isn't delivered on Veteran's Day.
  • A long way back Dave had this conversation with Equius, implying that Bro's training had made him too powerful to properly wield a normal sword, causing them to break under the stress. Now, what is the only weapon Dirk/Bro has ever used?
    • Even better is what happens to both their weapons by the end of the series. Dave ultimately ends up with another Caledscrath that he never gets around to breaking, whereas, as of [S] Collide, Dirk's "unbreakable" katana gets shattered. A fitting end to the Irony Masters' weapons.
  • When Jade asks her magic 8-ball if it's John's birthday, she takes its answer of "not exactly" as a reminder of what a cheap piece of garbage it is. Looking back at this page after learning about ectobiology, we realize its prediction was as wrong as it could be; it is EXACTLY John's birthday (as opposed to the mere anniversary of his birthday).
    • You can't forget that it's also a tongue-in-cheek joke about the date in the story compared to the date the update happens on. For the majority of the story, it has always been April 13, 2009. So, it's his birthday, but also, kind of not.
    • There's also the fact that the Incipisphere is described as a place untouched by the flow of time in the kids' universe and as a Timeless Expanse. It's because of this that Grandpa Harley's exploits in the Medium are possible.
  • Recent updates are a call back to Jade's fantasy of being a wolf, only now told from WV's perspective, and in the form of Serenity's flash speak. Remembering the final line, one should worry for Serenity.
    • Or Vriska, which is more likely since she actually is described specifically as a weird bug. Scratch did say she wouldn't live to see the silver lining.
    • And its in morse code.
  • Terezi specifically states that it is the job of the Exiles to repopulate the player's planets after the Reckoning. This appears to have happened successfully on Alternia, with Spades Slick and the Midnight Crew having "made this town what it is" despite it being "nothin' but a bunch of dust and rocks" beforehand. On Earth, however, three of its five Exiles have been brutally murdered and the survivors are off-planet seeking revenge (or building more towns out of tinned food products). This means that, failing a biologically viable group of sentient beings landing on Earth, either through accident or design, our home planet will never be repopulated. Goddamnit, Hussie.
    • Not only will Earth not be repopulated, but the universe has come to an end!
      • Our universe had cancer anyway. It was screwed out of the Forge.
    • When the WQ had her landing on earth revealed it showed that she had brought several of her people with her so they may have lived through the entire ordeal, after all the WQ, WV, PM, and AR all survived without much in however long they had been on Earth.
  • Draconian Dignitary got the jump on Dave on twice. In Act 5, Dave finally returns the favor.
  • John is wearing a spade shirt when Karkat discovers him. Dave is wearing a heart shirt/bib when Terezi discovers him.
  • At one point, Dave finds a disturbing comic on his Bro's computer, where Rolf somehow kills Animal. What makes it especially disturbing is that they're Muppet Babies. So, why use their Muppet baby selves and not their regular Muppet selves? Well, anyone who watched that cartoon growing up might remember the theme song, specifically these lines:
    When the world looks kind of weird and you wish that you weren't there,
    Just close your eyes and make believe, and you can be anywhere!
    • What happens with the SBURB/SGRUB players? Their homes are transported to weird worlds, and when they fall asleep, they wind up somewhere else.
  • In Seer: Descend, most of the books you read on the shelves were non-sense. However there were one that now made sense. It was a book on a theory that with some adjustments, the Queen's Ring of Orbs fourfold could be modified to add more orbs to it, to which is immediately dismissed by Rose as nonsense. This is, however, instead an instance of Developer's Foresight now that Act 6 is in the post scratched session.
    • Or it refers to the trolls' session and their 12-orb rings.
      • Perhaps the rings of each session are always supposed to have as many orbs as there are predestined prototypings to happen/have always happened (weird time shit and Skaia's interference is to be thanked/blamed for that), which only leaves the post-scratch session?
  • Andrew's death scene seemingly exists only for only one purpose: to bring closure to a Formspring Running Gag about him marrying Vriska, which subscribers to the DOTA philosophy will likely never bother to find out about.
  • Thinking too much about cyclical timelines and Skaian visions brings up serious questions of whether there's any sort of free will at all in the game.
    • Free will does exist, it is just that the characters have knowledge of the future that ends up motivating them to do the acts that appear inevitable. See Vriska's need to involve herself in Bec Noir's creation: she sees John inexplicably fall asleep at his computer when about to prototype the doll, and decides to involve herself by putting him to sleep herself. The fact that she has used her powers to interfere with the kids' timeline feeds back into her own timeline, creating the events that entice her in the past.
  • This update is a Call-Back to that update. Following that snap, Sollux falls asleep. Now, this update uploaded about 2 to 3 in the morning, could signify time for the Homestuck audience to go to sleep due to being up too late, or attempt an Archive Binge in the new Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff CSS from the beginning.
  • This page shows four of the kiss-resurrections in the comic so far. The titles match. On one hand, we have the Seer of Mind kissing the Page of Breath, while the Heir of Breath kisses the Seer of Light. On the other, we have the Knight of Blood kissing the Sylph of Space, while the Witch of Space kisses the Knight of Time.
  • So we're told that no matter what players may do, the Light Kingdom will ALWAYS fall and the Dark Kingdom will ALWAYS initiate the Reckoning... but why? Because if the players were ever to avoid the Reckoning, their paradox clones can't go to their home planet to become them — a paradox which would naturally lead to a doomed timeline.
  • Why does Andrew Hussie seems so familiar, what with his habit of being playful, Mood Whiplash, Fan Disservice and Jossing? — Holy crap he's the webcomics equivalent of Hideo Kojima!
  • Many aspects of the comic, such as Stable Time Loops, RPG elements, and four chosen heroes, can be seen as an elaborate parody of Final Fantasy.
  • The timing of the latest albums, The Wanderers and Sburb, could fit here. Consider the Wanderers album released in July as possibly the one meant for June, and its theme around the Exiles Crossing the Desert in a Heat Wave. Either way, the album works well as music for the hot months of summertime! AND, the Sburb album is a collection of piano music that could fit well detailing the beginning to ending of the players' conflict in Sburb. If this was meant as the official July release, it could work well as Awesome Music played along with a fireworks display in celebrating the Fourth of July!
  • Another possible link between Jade, the Witch of Space, and Jake, the Page of Hope: Spes is the goddess of hope.
  • Doc Scratch says, "I am an immortal entity with a large cue ball for a head, and no biological means of reproduction." That means Cal isn't anatomically correct.
    • What does it imply that you believed otherwise until you read that?
      • Remember Bro's other puppets?
  • Lord English and all his affiliates are green, according to That Other Wiki a number of artists and poets associate that color with The Devil.
  • Consider this quote from Doc Scratch for a second, "Each dark pocket, in time, will be filled." Depending on how this is pronounced, this could either be referring to how Scratch uses the kids/trolls to achieve his own agenda or a prophecy of the Scratch fixing everything up in the two sessions
    • Also there are 12 trolls + 4 kids = 16 (the number of pieces in a chess set). The prior may apply here.
      • The trolls and kids as one side of a chess board actually makes a lot of sense. You have two Heirs as the King and Queen, and Knights as the Knights, obviously. The Witches have been acting a lot like Rooks throughout, doing critical work on the sidelines we never really focus on (Jade corresponds with her penpal, Feferi makes dream bubbles). That leaves the Seers as the Bishops and everyone else as pawns.
      • The game started out as chess, then Jack took over and the rules started to bend closer to cards, eight players working as chess tokens may set the game right again. Probably 4 Derse dreamers and 4 Prospit dreamers, so Sollux really was doomed from the start.
      • One theory: "Doc Scratch is the one who gives the commands". He's the only one who really has the power to control the player but he can't be controlled himself.
      • Three possible readings of the quote: 1. Each dark pocket (in Doc Scratch's knowledge) will eventually be filled. 2. Each dark pocket in the flow of time (all the incomplete time loops) will be filled. or 3. Each dark pocket (of a pool table) will be filled (all billiards-themed characters will die).
      • Snowman must not die - because if the eight-ball is potted prematurely, both players lose!
      • Snowman dies in Cascade. In concurrence with this, the trolls' universe is destroyed.
      • If you remember from [S] Cascade (assuming you've seen it), Slick killed all the other members of the Felt, and then Snowman.
      • He didn't kill Clover.
      • Likely why Lord English was able to die; as Slick had sort of joined Scratch's side when he killed snowman. Their team pocketed the eight ball prematurely, losing them the game.
  • The lack of updates for a few days now since 5/27 might actually be brilliant. Currently, the audience is witnessing two story perspectives-the main screen where updates are usually posted, and the web site banner on top with Homestuck's narrator-for-now Doc Scratch getting ready for his guest Spades Slick. The last posted update has the guest, with his weapon, bonking the Physical God narrator over his head. Now, how is this action relative to lack of updates? Remember the second half of Act 2 when the audience is introduced to WV, who seemed very hungry and had not eaten for a long time yet had enough energy to wander the Desert Wasteland in search of food and wind up in that chamber? As WV and SS are of the same species, it's possible for Slick to do nothing but bonk Doc's head for a couple of days without rest or food in a feeble attempt to crack his skull. AND Doc might not mind letting Slick do this for two reasons: One-He's a Physical God; days could pass like minutes to him, and Two-Doc's a Smug Super, he could be ALLOWING Slick to hammer him nonstop with his horsehead club for a couple days, just to make this result more humiliating to Spades Slick. In other words, SS is holding up the narrator Doc Scratch from narration!
  • Let's not forget that somebody made a real◊ Lil Cal. And given that Lil Cal's existence in a given universe means that it will make whatever universe appear in become a living nightmare, it effectively means that, within the context of Homestuck canon, whoever made it is an Unwitting Instigator of Doom of the highest level.
  • Why is Jake the same shade of green as Lord English? Because Jake learned hope from Grandma English, who demonstrated hope by changing the meaning of English (most likely stealing his color), and Lord English is basing his on two instances of false hope: Jake, and Calliope.
  • Uu is a cherub; according to troll mythology angels are used to usher in the end. This is a double entendre, for a possible origin of Lord English and the narrative end of Homestuck.
  • UU and uu have specific shackles that only they can unlock and Calliope wears her brother's on her left leg, meaning uu wears his on his right. Remember how Lord English doesn't have a right leg? Also each has a color spiral above where the chain connects with the wall and Callie has a Lime green spiral while her brother's is "Candy" red since he is based on Jigsaw. The spiral seems to match the swirls on a cherub's face which may be implying the cherubs can change blood color. Lord English has been shown to have red blood and matching cheeks. As an added bonus watch the intermission that showed Lord English and read the opening code considering uu's symbol consists of "U" and "~".
  • Alright, so Calliope's dreamself is dead and Caliborn seems to have taken control. No big deal, Roxy knows how to wake her up and her soul's floating around in the Dream Bubbles now. Except Lord English just went into a Dream Bubbles and destroyed everyone there...
  • uu/UU's tag represents Uracil replacing the T in DNA. So by logic, TT (Timeus Testified) may be in more danger of being 'replaced' by uu. Remember the conversation Calliope and Dirk had about Prince of Heart translating to 'Destroyer of Souls'? And how Caliborn wants to *destroy* Calliope's *soul*?
    • It gets better. Remember how Dirk said that he doubted he'd be destroying any souls unless he became a "cartoonishly evil sorcerer"? Soon afterwards, Lord English arrives to destroy a bunch of souls in the dream bubbles. Remember what was in his hand?
  • Doubles as Fridge Horror: Calliope and undyingUmbrage make a point behind their universe being dead, or dying at any rate. Kernelsprites are attracted to the doomed and deceased.
  • We all know that Lord English was already here. We all know Caliborn is Lord English. We know Caliborn has been searching for Calliope to finish her off. Now take the time to remember the form that she took when she visited Roxy's dream to tell her about the Quest Beds. Caliborn was already here, but so was Calliope.
  • Li'l Cal is a juju. Jujus origins are untraceable. We know Li'l Cal exists because of a causality loop which means he exists because he exists. Sort of like a law of physics or even a fundamental flaw in the session/universe. The notion that he would spring from the void even makes sense, if the void refers to Paradox Space, Since Paradox Space is basically fate. The creation of Jujus goes in line with the idea of fundamental flaws in sessions dooming them. It could even be considered a reverse of the gaming abstraction idea in the sense that a few bad lines of code create random glitches in reality. Heck that could even explain all the callbacks to different "games" like Problem Sleuth and Jailbreak; straggling lines of code not properly removed before release.
  • Li'l Cal is a Juju that can be used to hypnotize a person who gazes into its eyes. Why does this never happen before Act 6 Act 5 Act 1x2? Because both boys it winds up entrusted with always wore shades.
  • The Felt album. Listen to all of the songs, then listen to them in REVERSE
    • How so?
    • They're full of backmasking and samples that have been slowed down or sped up. The album is about a group whose gimmick is time manipulation.
    • Also listen to "Time on My Side". Then listen it 4/3 (=> 413) faster (WARNING: Any love for the original song may fucking pirouette off of a cliff. You have been warned.)
    • The Broken Clock is written in a 13/4 time signature.
  • All of the members of the Midnight Crew correspond to one side of the troll romance, which also has to do with the symbol they represent.
    • Why is Hearts Boxcars such as avid Tavros/Vriska shipper? Because he has a heart fetish!
    • Why does Spades Slick hate everything? Because he represents the "kismesis" side of the romance, visceral hatred.
    • Why is Diamonds Droog always trying to convince Jack NOT to kill everything? He represents "Moirallegiance".
      • Also, 'Droog' is a Russian term for 'friend', which is the closest human approximation we've got for moirallegiance.
      • In addition to that, "droog" is often used in A Clockwork Orange among a group of teens for their gang members.
    • Why does Clubs Deuce stop the fight between Liv Tyler and WV? Because he acted like a "Auspistice" between those two.
  • After Jack becomes the Sovereign Slayer, he's referred to as an Ace to fit with the poker-card theme. In Blackjack, an Ace and a Jack beats a King and a Queen.
    • He could always beat them. A Blackjack beats every other hand.
  • Why does Jack become a Spade? It may have something to do with his friendly yet hate-filled relationship with Karkat (and EVERYONE). Although Karkat does not feel the same way.
    • It's more that during his time as Jack: he's playing up his difference from the chess motif by referencing a blackjack motif (Jack NOIR= Jack Black= Blackjack), whereas by the time he's Spades Slick, he's just one of the suites forming the midnight crew. His chance to be the Ace had come and gone.
  • Most likely, when you saw this page you thought to yourself, "Wow, what an out of character thing for an omnicidal maniac to do." But, when he put on the ring, he prototyped himself with all the first tier sprites, specifically John's Harlequin. So, he did it because he's part clown.
  • In the past, Bec Noir has tried to teleport to wherever John and Dave are and kill them. In a way, he succeeded. Recently, it's revealed that he also tried to kill Jade by this method, but couldn't bring himself to do so. So what about Rose? We haven't heard from her in a while...
    • Except that we know that she's still alive when the Rift happens.
      • Actually no, we most certainly do not know that. Her timeline and her timeline alone specifically goes black long before anyone else's does and no one can explain why.
      • The reason Rose's screen goes black is because she pretty much just went grimdark. Vriska said that she couldn't see John when he flew into the Blackout, which is the same reason Kanaya can't see her. It's too dark in there.
      • A way of interpreting this last thing is that if the time windows can't see Rose, neither can Noir.
      • Well, from this page we know that Rose is still alive at some point in the future, and from what Dave says it sounds like it's pretty close to the full 24 hours. But we don't know exactly how the timeline aligns.
  • Spades Slick hates clocks and all matter of things to do with time. Who ends up stopping his counterpart Bec Noir in his tracks? The Maid of Time.
  • When confronted by a prototyped PM following Cascade, Jack immediately falls in love. Although he has been shown to respect her, this is never even hinted at before now. What changed? Why, her species.
  • Spades Slick's obsession with scottie dogs is Hilarious in Hindsight considering his counterpart Jack Noir's final form once Bec is prototyped.
  • According to Hussie, the Midnight Crew Intermission was supposed to allow the readers insight into the mind of the comic's main villain, initially revealed to be the Beta Session's Jack Noir. With Lord English being played up as the True Final Boss and a more major villain overall in Act 6, the above statement began to seem like a red herring... and then THIS happened. If that update means Lord English is actually : Jack Noir possessed by Caliborn's soul, rather than an older Caliborn himself, Jack Noir may end up being the main villain of the story two times over, and Hussie's statement is still truth. Even if not, hey, Jack's still gonna be a major player from the looks of it, so that's probably gonna be good enough.
    • Also, this was the first time Lord English was mentioned in the comic.
  • Bec Noir only seems to be concerned with killing. He's kind of a one-dimensional character, isn't he? Maybe that's because he's only 4-dimensional, to his counterpart's 12.
    • That idea falls apart when you realize that counterpart was never prototyped. Spades Slick was exiled before he could get the Queen's Ring.
  • The conversations the kids and trolls have with each other are shown exactly, because they're typed - the logs are automatically created. The Midnight Crew's speech is paraphrased in the frame captions because they're communicating via radio, and no exact record is made.
  • Crowbar is the only member of the Felt who can keep all 15 of them together. His hat is shaped like a triangle.
  • Why do God Tier people get those lame hoods? They were attaining a literal godhood!
  • Andrew has stated that Derse represents Destruction. Ironic then, that two Dersite Dream Selves and Derse's moon help create the Green Sun. Or maybe not, because two universes are destroyed by beings empowered by the Green Sun (the first universe Bec Noir destroys directly, the second universe Doc Scratch destroys by proxy - with Spades Slick firing a bullet that's probably ALSO Green Sun empowered.)
    • Probably more relevant is the fact that Alternia/Beforus's pink MOONS, as there are two of them, one larger more visible and a smaller one orbiting the first, ostensibly resemble another planet of similar coloration (Hint: It's Derse)
    • It is possible that Derse represents creation through destruction; the death of their king and queen creates a new universe. Therefore, Prospit would be destruction through creation; Jade's current form may reflect as much, as does John's task of locating the Tumor. The second part is the weak link, admittedly, but the former matches wonderfully.
  • Everyone's IM handle is initialed with an A, C, G or T - like in DNA.
    • The Calliope and her brother's IM handles are UU and uu, respectively. U replaces T when DNA gets transcribed into RNA. RNA only has a single strand, while DNA has a double strand
    • The name of the Alpha timeline's Bec counterpart? GCAT.
    • The whole DNA letter theme-naming becomes even more significant when you realize the idea behind Sburb is to create new universes. DNA is the basic code for life, so of course they're in all the chumhandles!
  • Why can the "player" hop from character to character at a whim in the main story? In chess, you can move any piece with somewhere to go. Why does the perspective change randomly in the Midnight Crew Intermission? In cards, you can only play the hand you're dealt.
  • The versatility of the word "scratch" and all the relevance to story in some way.
    • 1. It refers to the billiard term, "Scratch" or to put the Cue Ball in a pocket. It makes an apt name for certain Cue Ball themed villain. Plus in billiards when a Player scratches, they lose their turn and the next player begins their turn. This is similar to how when a scratch is preformed in the troll world the Players and Ancestors switched roles. The Ancestors scratched and lost their turn, now it the other Players' turn.
    • 2. It refers to the action of "scratching" a record, which is moving the needle across portions of a record to make an odd sound. Interestingly, doing so moves to a different part of the record which is kind of like moving through time.
    • 3. It refers to scratching a CD. Scratches on the surface can cause a number of misreads and various other problems. In a way, a scratch on a CD is like cancer to the CD. Sometimes its fatal and sometimes a doctor can cure it. The trolls screwed up the kids' session is similar to how Terezi scratched the game disk.
    • 4. It refers to "starting over from scratch". "Starting over from scratch" is a phrase used to describe having to start over with absolutely nothing. Where "starting over from square one" means going back to the beginning in the same condition you are now, "starting over from scratch" refers to something even more extreme. To use a board game as an example, "square one" would mean you get sent back to the start square. However, "from scratch" means you would need to start a whole new game. This parallels the fact that once the Scratch happens, the current players aren't sent back to the start of their journey in order to try again. A whole new game session begins with new players.
    • 5. It can also refer to "making from scratch". This is a phrase used to describe building, making, or creating something without using any part that is already partially done. This phrase is used in cooking or baking. If you were baking cookies, you could buy all the ingredients needed and make them from start to finish and bake the cookies from scratch or you could buy a package of Betty Crocker's Cookie Dough and use that as a starting point as several of the ingredients are already mixed together and half the work is done for you.
    • 6. Scratching Out. A term that used to mean deletion or removal of something from something else. IE Scratching an item of a list.
  • With the revelation that The Scratch is a hard reset of REALITY and that if the kids want to survive they need to jump ship to another universe (like, say, the Troll Session). The fact that Bec Noir arrived in the Troll Session with an arm covered in blood can inspire this. (since the Trolls and Kids are implied in the first conversation of the act to come up with a plan to do exactly this, they'd all be in one place...)
    • It's scarier if you assume they do somehow make it. So they're in the trolls' session, possibly searching the veil for the right meteor that their friends are on. Do they find it? Well, Gamzee had to get a hold of Zillyhoo somehow, right?
    • Considering the EOA 5, the original comment here saying "if the kids want to survive they need to jump ship to another universe" is brilliance itself...
  • Recent updates reveal that Betty Crocker wasn't human. However, it should already be known that she was never a real person to begin with.'
  • How does one get rid of glitches in a game cartridge? By blowing on it.
  • Back in the beginning of Act 6, en route to the Alpha session, Rose says the plan is to make the "void" Alpha session viable by replacing its core, Skaia's Battlefield, with the one Jade stole from the Beta session. Long story short, this is how cloning works.
  • According to Word of God, all of the ships are canon. Just Hussie being a trolling creator, right? WRONG! Homestuck encompasses many different universes and timelines, meaning that given the Many Worlds Interpretation, all pairing combinations could indeed be canon in at least one of them.
    • Alternatively, Lord English has taken control of the narrative from Hussie, who has less control and insight about the story, as implied by him not knowing that Slick’s red eye is cybernetic [2].
  • Remember that update on Andrew's Formspring where he tried CS5 before returning to CS3? Know how he mentions having "a ton of pertinent files open all the time so I don't have to spend as much time rooting around for stuff?" These spoiler-ish updates may be a Meta example of one way the story unfolds-mining past images for use later in present updates, with these updates a Call-Back of a past Tear Jerker concerning Karkat and Terezi.]]
    • Regarding the above mentioned eventual callback, the other Seer and Knight are equally likely to recreate this scene. Look how easily those pictures can be edited, Terezi's shades could easily replaced by Dave's pair.
    • Finally, Andrew may have commented on his real life delay for a few days here, affecting the suddenly succinctly slow pace of the story.
  • Some of the songs in Vol. 8 have a Double-Meaning Title.
    • Drift into the Sun refers to Rose and Dave undergoing their suicide mission to explode the Green Sun, using Derse’s moon as a vehicle. Alternatively, a drift, defined as a mass of matter, in this case Derse’s moon, is turned “into the sun” thanks to the Tumor.
    • The bonus song, Black Hole/Green Sun, refers to the Tumor's detonation as a black hole and supernova into the Green Sun. However, at the end of [S] Cascade, when the song ends, Jade, John, the planets, and her cruiser plow through the Fourth Wall, leaving a black hole behind as their point of entry and escape.
  • There are 4 Sburb players in each session, and each of their names has four letters. The troll were initially going to have two teams of six players, and they all have two six letter names.
  • How many people here knew that a becquerel is a unit of radiation before reading Homestuck?
    • Or that Irradiated Steak is a product you can actually buy?
      • Or that Irradiated Salisbury Steak is a health item you can obtain in Fallout: New Vegas?
      • The tagline for that trope is alarmingly apt: "From where you're kneeling, it must seem like an 18-carat run of bad luck. But the truth is... the game was rigged from the start.". When you consider other elements of play within that game as listed on the trope page, such as gambling/Casino, Dog and God (!), A courier (!), and the list goes on...
      • Fridge Horror: Radiation causes cancer. Or in this case, gives it god-like powers.
  • Close to Valentine's Day 2011, we have two characters on a date, AND a steamy fanfic from one of the troll's ancestors. OMFG, COINCIDENCE.
    • Now, near St. Patrick's Day, we have the Felt being revealed as being from a race of Leprechauns. Hussie is damn good at this.
    • The last update for the year 2010 was "Lab: Drop". The lab in question is a giant ball situated on a thin spire. Happy new years, everybody.
  • Look at brainwashed God Tier Jane and Grimbark Jade side-by-side. A girl with a red hood and a big, bad wolf... remind you of anything?
    • And they were both Grandma.
  • The Beforus troll session was screwed from the beginning because their session contained no ectobiological lab, meaning that the only way for them to come into existence was for them to have come from the other side of a Scratch. But the same is also true of the Alternian troll session and the Pre-Scratch human session. Both of those contained Doc Scratch, one of whose components is Arquiusprite. And since Arquiusprite was created in the Post-Scratch human session, things would inevitably conspire to force the humans to scratch their session.
  • Davepeta is a combination of a Rogue of Heart and a Knight of Time. The Heart Aspect gives the ability to connect with people, and also relates the soul to a heart motif. The Time Aspect allows you to reverse time to fix your mistakes with knowledge from doomed timelines, including reversing death. Knights also weaponize their aspect to benefit themselves. And with that, the Undertale shout out makes perfect sense.
    • Additionally, remember what happens if you complete a Genocide run in Undertale? You have to face an incredibly difficult boss, and even if you win you render any future non-Genocide runs completely unwinnable. Guess what Caliborn did.
  • There's some incredible similarities between Aradia and Dave. Both had an interest in old dead things. Both type in red without capitals or punctuation. Both are heroes of Time. Both have a subdued personality due to the violent actions of somebody close to them.
    • Death is an effect of the passing of time.
  • Both the A2 and B1 universes are destroyed because of the actions of Jack Noir/Spades Slick and the Black Queen/Snowman. Jack Noir is depicted as an ace. The Black Queen is depicted as an 8 ball. The name of a hand with two black aces and two black eights in poker is the "Dead Man's Hand".
  • Dave's interest in paleontology adds another layer to his bird motif—birds are living dinosaurs, after all...
    Sburb/Sgrub 
  • Both a Hero of Space and a Hero of Time are necessary for a complete game, and they are opposite aspects. The Space player is needed to create and hatch the frog that will become the new universe, the ultimate goal of the game. Meanwhile, the Time player can go back and fix any mistakes which would render the game unwinnable. Space helps you win the game; Time helps you not lose.
    • Which befits the Uu session; Caliborn, the Time player, was able to win his session and defeat Yaldabaoth without too much trouble before eventually becoming Lord English, while the one Calliope to dominate over Caliborn and properly play the game was doomed to failure regardless; while the Time player's ability to undo failure can be applied to anything, a Space player's purpose is specifically to breed the Genesis Frog, something that doesn't apply at all for a Dead Session.
  • In this update, Kanaya says that she thinks the roles are intentionally given to the ones who don't suit them best, in order to challenge them. If you think about it, this applies to the kids: Rose is the one with an interest in dark magic, while Jade is the one who had visions of the future, but Rose is the Seer and Jade is the witch.
    • This paradox also explains why Eridan, despite bearing the title "Prince of Hope", is the first to lose it and join Jack Noir to have some chance of survival.
      • We later find out that "Prince" basically means "Destroyer" in the game, however. His title seems to be the most accurate now.
    • Let's also point out that Jade, who is destined to become the Witch, makes it clear in her introduction that she is a firm advocate of the power of science, and thinks that things like magic are silly.
    • Dave, who seeks to emulate his brother the most, doesn't become the Heir; John does. Also, Dave is the one most interested in both combat and acrobatics, and so would have probably chosen the combat-oriented wind powers if given the choice. Conversely, the nerd John knows all about time travel tropes.
  • A tadpole entering Skaia and maturing to birth the new universe invokes the imagery of a sperm entering an egg and losing its tail to create a child.
  • It would only make sense for the heroes of Hope and Doom to be rivals.
    • And that the hero of Doom would both hate and pity/love the hero of Rage. He sees Rage as sensible but hates that it's the sensible thing to do.
  • Aradia's SGRUB title is Maid of Time. Here, she states she is made of time. Ha ha.
    • Heir (Air) of Breath? SEER of Light? Even Knight of Time could be taken with a second meaning.
      • Breath of Air and Time of Night.
    • Heir of Void: Void of Heir (Air). Possible foreshadowing of Equius's manner of death.
      • Just stopping by to say that's absolutely brilliant.
  • The planet of each player seems reveal what elemental attribute each player has (or maybe it's the other way around)
    • Some are obvious.
      • Wind and Zephyr for Breath
      • Light for Light
      • Quartz and Clockwork for Time
      • Pulse and Blood
      • Silence and Void
      • Thought and Mind
      • Fire and Doom
    • But some don't really seem to make that much sense.
      • How are Maps or Treasure meaningful to Light? Light can be luck or it can be insight, like a map. Too bad Vriska doesn't use it that way since luck doesn't matter.
      • Makes more sense when you consider the other half of her title. Thieves and treasure, hm?
      • Also, the Light symbol looks a lot like a compass rose.
      • Nepeta's planet is Land of Little Cubes and Tea- what does that have to do with Heart? Look at the Hero of Heart emblem: it's a tea cup. Also, people tend to clear their conscience with a cup of tea.
      • Remember that the planet names are often abbreviated like Dave's Land of Heat and Clockwork is referred to as LOHAC. With this in mind, Nepeta's planet makes much more sense.
      • Also worth noting is that the ancestor of the suit of hearts was the cups in tarot cards.
      • And this in part is explained by her moirail being Equius as well: the constellation of Sagittarius is famous for containing the Teapot asterism.
      • How does Wrath and Angels connect to Hope? Angels are usually portrayed as messengers of God, and they often brought hope to people through their messages.
      • Dew and Glass: Dew is water, which sustains life and lets it grow.
  • This [3] masterpost of how the Classpects work, arguing for a reading of the Classpects combining the basic tenets of Gnosticism and Daoism (specifically the concept of the Yin-Yang), amongst other things.
  • Egyptian mythology motifs. On April 13th, 2029, an asteroid named Apophis was expected to hit the earth. Apophis is a giant snake in Egyptian mythology, and the lord of chaos and evil. Doesn't that sound like another giant, snake-like evil creature to you? In the fight against Apophis, Ra (a sun god normally appearing as a humanoid with bird features) transformed into a giant cat and attacked it. Anubis (the god of the dead) also joined the fight - just like Aradia.
  • In traditional tarot, Wands are associated with Fire and Swords with Air. Other traditions have this reversed - Dave, the kid associated with the element of Fire, uses swords, and Eridan, bearing Aquarius which is an Air sign, uses a wand.
  • One might notice that the Page outfit does bear resemblance to that of the Onion Knight. The Onion Knight is a rather ho-hum class that doesn't seem like much at low and mid levels, until one reaches the endgame, where its stats become rather bloated and gains the ability to learn any spell. One thing about Pages...

    Acts 1- 4 
    Acts 5- 7 
  • Two horrors from S Flip:
    • Gamzee is STILL the most important character in Homestuck, past his alternate timeline self helping contribute to Bec Noir‘s existence. Assume as a high blood, he desires law and order like His Honorable Tyranny did. He framed Vriska for Eridan’s and his own murders, and then gave Terezi her Legiserator gear to pursue Vriska for consorting with Tavros. (This might explain why his head is on the ground, besides his oversized horns unable to fit on the jury table-he’s a peasant blood, unworthy of sitting with other high bloods.). Vriska earlier was doubting how she could face against Bec Noir, rethinking fighting him. However, Terezi’s game of chance may have forced her to choose impulse over reason, and continue what may be a time lord ordained conflict between Vriska and Noir. Indirectly, Gamzee kept the timeline stable.
    • In a mixture of Fridge Horror and Tearjerker, Terezi and Vriska were Fate’s bitches all along. Terezi attempts to Screw Destiny, possibly with her coin flips giving split timelines and manipulations of neutral systems like the LOHAC Stock Exchange and constants like Doc Scratch’s smugness over being used. Vriska prefers more to fill the gaps in the Only One Possible Future in an attempt to turn negatives into positives and control randomness in her favor, culminating in killing Bec Noir and “saving everyone’s ungrateful asses.” Now, as Doc Scratch always tells the truth, stating the result of the coin flip was constant across all timelines means this meeting between Seer and Thief was obvious. Their attempts to fight the game of Sburb/Sgrub (Terezi’s willingness to get suckered in order to choose a more positive outcome out of the consequences, and Vriska’s cheating to control the system in her favor) was WHAT THE GAME WANTED. This also crosses into Tear Jerker into realizing all their efforts to resist and Screw Destiny, including Character Development, may have been the game’s manipulations all along in favor of a alpha timeline where all the trolls die at Noir’s hands, and Lord English descends to eliminate the kids’ doomed timeline.
  • From the start of [S] Cascade to when Bec Noir moves to the Troll session is 4 minutes 13 seconds. From there until The Tumor explodes? 6 minutes 12 seconds.
    • And of course, from the start of [S] Cascade to The Tumor exploding totals to 10 minutes 25 seconds.
    • This is downright untrue. The 4:13 is approximate, only correct within a few seconds. And the tumor detonation is more like 10:48 into the Flash. It can be conceded, though, that 10:25 would have happened if the timer just before detonation had stayed in line with the timer when Dave and Rose deployed the Tumor, as that first case did line up with the Flash so that detonation would have been at 10:25... if the Tumor actually detonated when the timer hit zero, anyway, rather than several seconds later.
  • Doc Scratch seeks death after summoning Lord English and ending the universe, but he needs help. Why? Because, as his creation shows, he's an omniscient, omnipotent prankster. Comedy is easy. Dying is hard.
    • And the reason Scratch flipped out on Vriska? She was using, essentially, himself to fight himself. Then he blew himself up. Sort of.
  • So why did Doc Scratch prod Rose into checking the cue ball and going grimdark? Even after she recovered, she was surrounded by a blackout that kept the trolls and anyone else from reading her future or that of anyone near her. In other words, it prevented anyone from realizing what The Tumor actually does until it's long too late.
  • Doc Scratch says here that he is a soldier in a war of one bullet fired. Which bullet? The bullet fired by Spades Slick at Snowman that kills her and destroys the Troll's universe, summoning Lord English.
  • Here's a thought... the Green Sun was formed when the Troll's Universe was destroyed, thus everything inside it would be obliterated and non-existent. But then where are Doc Scratch, his clock, and part of his building surviving that the Doc's body could become Lord English? Simple. A POCKET Universe. The cueball-headed Doc was Scratched.
  • As of the act 5-6 Intermission, we learn that Doc Scratch really is an excellent host. Falls emphatically under Fridge Horror, as well.
  • Why has the entire Act 6, nearly a third of the comic by pages, been so slow and tedious? because it's a void session, with nothing happening, and empty and dull by design!
  • If Act 7 is truly how Homestuck ends then the comic ended the way it started: With the readers deciding what happens to the characters.
  • The juju is not actually white, it is transparent: a plothole.
  • Per [4], but mostly importantly as revealed by Alt!Calliope to Jade, Homestuck is ultimately about a group of kids creating a world out of Aspects which they manipulate using Classes assigned to them according to how they are to develop as people.
  • The reason why Rose's Grimdark aura resembles the Horrorterror's tentacles? It's because said eldritch monstrosities are literally puppeteering Rose. One can interpret her aura as literal tentacles. She does after all, later manifest them in her battle with Jack.
    Alas, one is not easily shaken from the broodfester tongues.

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