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19th Apr '18 10:34:36 AM GoblinCipher
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** Karkat succeeded as the Sufferer on Beforus because he was a JerkWithAHeartOfGold and able to motivate people. On Alternia, the sufferer was ''[[TheFriendNobodyLikes Kankri]]''.
11th Apr '18 3:10:13 PM Dinru
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** The post scratch kids fit the pattern as well. All of them have short hair. 1111
19th Mar '18 6:12:58 PM nombretomado
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* Many aspects of the comic, such as {{Stable Time Loop}}s, RPG elements, and four chosen heroes, can be seen as an elaborate parody of VideoGame/FinalFantasyI.

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* Many aspects of the comic, such as {{Stable Time Loop}}s, RPG elements, and four chosen heroes, can be seen as an elaborate parody of VideoGame/FinalFantasyI.''VideoGame/FinalFantasyI''.



** It also looks like [[https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4559980/tumblrasks/shoes/Doll-OnionKnight-ffx.png the Onion Knight]] from FinalFantasy. It is useless at the start, until you level it up, all the way to 90 - 99. Then it can learn ''every spell''. What was said about Pages, again?

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** It also looks like [[https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4559980/tumblrasks/shoes/Doll-OnionKnight-ffx.png the Onion Knight]] from FinalFantasy.''Franchise/FinalFantasy''. It is useless at the start, until you level it up, all the way to 90 - 99. Then it can learn ''every spell''. What was said about Pages, again?
4th Feb '18 12:31:18 PM nombretomado
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* Gamzee exhibits an apparent resistance to death, despite not being god tier (so far as we can tell). Meaning he's a crazy, murderous clown (who worships a perpetually scowly individual with a stunted childhood development) that wears purple and has a nigh unbreakable immunity to being killed for no adequately explained reason. [[TheJoker Remind you of anyone?]] And what so happens to be Gamzee's Strife Specubus?

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* Gamzee exhibits an apparent resistance to death, despite not being god tier (so far as we can tell). Meaning he's a crazy, murderous clown (who worships a perpetually scowly individual with a stunted childhood development) that wears purple and has a nigh unbreakable immunity to being killed for no adequately explained reason. [[TheJoker [[ComicBook/TheJoker Remind you of anyone?]] And what so happens to be Gamzee's Strife Specubus?
5th Jan '18 5:37:02 AM CombustibleLemons14
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* This [[https://revolutionaryduelist.tumblr.com/post/160318227692/force-and-flow-the-aspects-arent-the-only]] masterpost of how the Classpects work, arguing for a reading of the Classpects combining the basic tenets of Gnosticism and Daoism (specifically the concept of the Yin-Yang), amongst other things.



** Plus, this [[https://revolutionaryduelist.tumblr.com/post/160318227692/force-and-flow-the-aspects-arent-the-only]] masterpost of how the Classpects work, arguing for a reading of the Classpects combining the basic tenets of Gnosticism and Daoism (specifically the concept of the Yin-Yang), amongst other things.


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* Calliope's role, as stated in a Reddit comment[[https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1200/0*1GLUXaPKLqPD3KL3.png]]:
--> ''Simple she died and by dying she appeared out in the furthest ring, baiting Lord English into action or rather inspiring him to hunt her down if you will. Lord English goes into the furthest ring to hunt her down and along the way he starts murdering the horrorterrors. Because they are being hunted the horrorterrors ally with our players so when requested they create the dream bubbles for them, which in it of itself created the very dream bubble Alt Calliope would appear in to begin with."
5th Jan '18 5:17:19 AM CombustibleLemons14
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* The Signless and the Summoner are analogies to Suffragists and Suffragettes respectively.



* I know this may be the wrong area to talk about this, but it needs to be addressed. Many fans know that the trolls follow a 6-6 naming rule. Who else has a similar name pattern? [[TrollingCreator Andrew.]]



* When "Di" Strider MST's Jane's book, he puts a note next to the name "Anna" and says that it would be a good name for Jane. Who was Jane known as before the scratch? Nanna!
** Specifically, the name was Anna *Harley*
* Dirk Strider's new fetch modus requires that the items in a column has to rhyme. It's also filled with different types of orange soda. The word "orange" is also infamous for being unrhymeable. Given the obsession for irony that both Striders share, there is no way that wasn't intentional.
* "XY" is chromosomic because X and Y are chromosomes.
* "RK" is diluvial (pertaining to floods) because it's the last two letters of [[TheArk Ark]]. It's obvious in hindsight, but it's not something that's easy to figure out.
** Which ties in with the fact that majority of Dirk's apartment is submerged, and that he's a lone vestige of life in a flooded world, just like the Ark was.
* Why is G Cat not loyal to any one member of the Alpha Session? Sure, G Cat is... well, a cat. But also because the Alpha Session ''lacks a Space player.''
** And on that note, the Beta kid's terrible prototyping combo made their session unwinnable. The reason why? Bec threw himself into it just to protect Jade. GCAT most likely never will or would.
*** In fact, GCAT would probably be Dog Tier Jade's natural enemy same as Jaspersprite.
* Nanna Egbert and Grandpa Harley both lived and died years before the events of Act 1, when Beta!Mom and Beta!Bro are still alive. ''Jane and Jake live years before Roxy and Dirk.''
* Calliope tells us that the two obligatory aspects in a SBURB session are Space and Time; all others are nifty but optional. [S] Dirk: Synchronize and [S] Dirk: Unite prove exactly HOW essential those aspects are to a successful game session. The (Void Session, Post-Scratch) B2 game lacks native Space and Time players. It takes Dirk one ThanatosGambit, one rocketboard, two robot helpers, two corpsesmooches, three non-linear space/time transportation devices, and three or four [[CrowningMomentofAwesome crowning moments of awesome]]...all to solve a displacement problem Jade and Dave could have fixed with almost no effort.

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* When "Di" Strider MST's Jane's book, he puts a note next to the name "Anna" and says ** [[https://medium.com/@RoseOfNobility/et-tu-hussie-on-spades-slick-bec-noir-eb3f310df974]] suggests that it would be a good name for Jane. Who was Jane known as before the scratch? Nanna!
** Specifically, the name was Anna *Harley*
* Dirk Strider's new fetch modus requires that the items in a column has to rhyme. It's also filled with different types of orange soda. The word "orange"
is also infamous for being unrhymeable. Given the obsession for irony that both Striders share, there is no way that wasn't intentional.
* "XY" is chromosomic
because X and Y are chromosomes.
* "RK"
she is diluvial (pertaining able to floods) because it's the last two letters of [[TheArk Ark]]. It's obvious in hindsight, but it's not something that's easy reconcile her feelings towards Jade, due to figure out.
** Which ties in
being able to process positive emotions. Bec Noir, with the fact that majority of Dirk's apartment is submerged, and that he's a lone vestige of life in a flooded world, just like the Ark was.
* Why is G Cat not loyal to any one member of the Alpha Session? Sure, G Cat is... well, a cat. But also because the Alpha Session ''lacks a Space player.''
** And on that note, the Beta kid's terrible prototyping combo made their session unwinnable. The reason why? Bec threw himself into it just to protect Jade. GCAT most likely never will or would.
*** In fact, GCAT would probably be Dog Tier Jade's natural enemy same as Jaspersprite.
* Nanna Egbert and Grandpa Harley both lived and died years before the events of Act 1, when Beta!Mom and Beta!Bro are still alive. ''Jane and Jake live years before Roxy and Dirk.''
* Calliope tells us that the two obligatory aspects in a SBURB session are Space and Time; all others are nifty but optional. [S] Dirk: Synchronize and [S] Dirk: Unite prove exactly HOW essential those aspects are to a successful game session. The (Void Session, Post-Scratch) B2 game lacks native Space and Time players. It takes Dirk one ThanatosGambit, one rocketboard, two robot helpers, two corpsesmooches, three non-linear space/time transportation devices, and three or four [[CrowningMomentofAwesome crowning moments of awesome]]...all to solve a displacement problem Jade and Dave could have fixed
less experience with almost no effort.positive emotions, is less able to process the nuances of feelings he is experiencing.



* When Aradia found Li'l Cal, Dad's wallet modus was within...with some blood on it, and seeing as how in the present timeline is is currently held by John...
** Maybe Dad had a backup wallet, like a sensible person.



* Per https://revolutionaryduelist.tumblr.com/post/159691022977/witch-of-space-ascend-what-is-jade-harleys, but mostly importantly as revealed by Alt!Calliope to Jade, Homestuck is ultimately about a group of kids creating a world out of Aspects which they manipulate using Classes assigned to them according to how they are to develop as people.



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* Per [[https://revolutionaryduelist.tumblr.com/post/159691022977/witch-of-space-ascend-what-is-jade-harleys]], but mostly importantly as revealed by Alt!Calliope to Jade, Homestuck is ultimately about a group of kids creating a world out of Aspects which they manipulate using Classes assigned to them according to how they are to develop as people.
** Plus, this [[https://revolutionaryduelist.tumblr.com/post/160318227692/force-and-flow-the-aspects-arent-the-only]] masterpost of how the Classpects work, arguing for a reading of the Classpects combining the basic tenets of Gnosticism and Daoism (specifically the concept of the Yin-Yang), amongst other things.


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* When "Di" Strider MST's Jane's book, he puts a note next to the name "Anna" and says that it would be a good name for Jane. Who was Jane known as before the scratch? Nanna!
** Specifically, the name was Anna *Harley*
* Dirk Strider's new fetch modus requires that the items in a column has to rhyme. It's also filled with different types of orange soda. The word "orange" is also infamous for being unrhymeable. Given the obsession for irony that both Striders share, there is no way that wasn't intentional.
* "XY" is chromosomic because X and Y are chromosomes.
* "RK" is diluvial (pertaining to floods) because it's the last two letters of [[TheArk Ark]]. It's obvious in hindsight, but it's not something that's easy to figure out.
** Which ties in with the fact that majority of Dirk's apartment is submerged, and that he's a lone vestige of life in a flooded world, just like the Ark was.
* Nanna Egbert and Grandpa Harley both lived and died years before the events of Act 1, when Beta!Mom and Beta!Bro are still alive. ''Jane and Jake live years before Roxy and Dirk.''
* Calliope tells us that the two obligatory aspects in a SBURB session are Space and Time; all others are nifty but optional. [S] Dirk: Synchronize and [S] Dirk: Unite prove exactly HOW essential those aspects are to a successful game session. The (Void Session, Post-Scratch) B2 game lacks native Space and Time players. It takes Dirk one ThanatosGambit, one rocketboard, two robot helpers, two corpsesmooches, three non-linear space/time transportation devices, and three or four [[CrowningMomentofAwesome crowning moments of awesome]]...all to solve a displacement problem Jade and Dave could have fixed with almost no effort.
* Why is G Cat not loyal to any one member of the Alpha Session? Sure, G Cat is... well, a cat. But also because the Alpha Session ''lacks a Space player.''
** And on that note, the Beta kid's terrible prototyping combo made their session unwinnable. The reason why? Bec threw himself into it just to protect Jade. GCAT most likely never will or would.
*** In fact, GCAT would probably be Dog Tier Jade's natural enemy same as Jaspersprite.


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* The Signless and the Summoner are analogies to Suffragists and Suffragettes respectively.
* I know this may be the wrong area to talk about this, but it needs to be addressed. Many fans know that the trolls follow a 6-6 naming rule. Who else has a similar name pattern? [[TrollingCreator Andrew.]]
5th Jan '18 4:58:07 AM CombustibleLemons14
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* The planet of each player seems reveal what elemental atribute each player has (or maybe it's the other way around)
** Some are obvious.
*** Wind and Zephyr for Breath
*** Light for Light
*** Quartz and Clockwork for Time
*** Frogs and... Frogs for Space (it works in story)
*** Pulse and Blood
*** Silence and Void
*** Thought and Mind
*** Fire and Doom
** But some don't really seem to make that much sense.
*** How are Maps or Treasure meaningful to Light? Light can be luck or it can be insight, like a map. Too bad Vriska doesn't use it that way since [[MemeticMutation luck doesn't matter]].
*** Makes more sense when you consider the other half of her title. Thieves and treasure, hm?
*** Also, the Light symbol looks a lot like a compass rose.
*** Nepeta's planet is Land of Little Cubes and Tea- what does that have to do with Heart? Look at [[http://whatpumpkin.com/godtier-hoodies.html the Hero of Heart emblem]]: it's a tea cup. Also, people tend to clear their conscience with a cup of tea.
*** Remember that the planet names are often abbreviated like Dave's Land of Heat and Clockwork is referred to as LOHAC. With this in mind, Nepeta's planet makes much more sense.
*** Also worth noting is that the ancestor of the suit of hearts was the cups in tarot cards.
*** And this in part is explained by her moirail being Equius as well: the constellation of Sagittarius is famous for containing the Teapot asterism.
*** How does Wrath and Angels connect to Hope? Angels are usually portrayed as messengers of God, and they often brought hope to people through their messages.
*** Dew and Glass: Dew is water, which sustains life and lets it grow.



* There's a recurring chess motif, and Vriska thinks of herself as TheChessmaster who's been manipulating the kids and trolls. There are 12 trolls, and four kids. How many pieces are there on one side in any given game of chess?
** And the Felt consists of the 15 gang members plus Doc Scratch, making another set of 16. And Doc Scratch and Vriska play chess against each other!
* Post-scratch troll society is extremely different from the pre-scratch version, but post and pre scratch Earth are almost exactly the same[[note]]The Condesce's interference nonwithstanding, as she was completely independent of the Scratch.[[/note]]. Most people attribute this to Doc Scratch, but there's another reason - in Alternia[=/=]Beforus, the Ancestors arrive thousands of sweeps before the Players. In the Earth sessions, the difference is 500 years at most.
** Besides, the pre-scratch kids ''already are excellent players''. The only reason their session was doomed was Vriska's interference (aka predestination). Other than that, they've all managed to reach God Tier within 24 hours - of all the trolls it seems that only Vriska did, then Aradia and Gamzee, but only after the end of the game proper; [[OffscreenMomentOfAwesome Dave and Jade bred the perfect frog]] within the same amount of time, while trolls ultimately did not do it properly at all; they initiated the Scratch and then ''all survived''. There was simply no reason to change anything else. [[{{Irony}} Unlike the trolls, they already were good enough]].
* ~ATH = "til' death"



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* Why does [[BlandNameProduct Trollian]] work with the kid's AIM-esque Pesterchum? Because Trollian allows the user to combine several IM accounts, AIM included.
* The scratch is supposed to be like a deal with the devil where the session will be reset with things changed to make the players more ready to play the game. The post scratch troll universe had Doc Scratch making troll society into a violent society to prepare the trolls for Sburb. In the post scratch human universe The Condesce makes life harder for Jane through constant assassination attempt as well as Dirk and Roxy due to her conquering of earth making them more suited to take on the game.
** The assassination attempts likely came from [[FridgeHorror Alpha!Mom and Alpha!Bro]]. A human has the same lifespan as the caste Karkat would have been, so the Condesce would just have to wait a few decades before Jane would die naturally.
*** The Condesce also shows a slight hint of remorse at GameOver!Jane's [[KarmicDeath Just death]].
** The alpha humans were Nobles. Not Heroes. The beta humans are still the Heroes of the alpha session because it's a [[UnwinnableByDesign Void Session]].
* John is, for the most part, TheHero of the story. Someone who opposes the hero is usually an antagonist. Karkat is, functionally, a counterpart of sorts to John. In the zodiac, what is the sign "opposing" Cancer? ''Capricorn''.
** Can also work on a different level, considering recent events involving the Capricorn Troll and Karkat…
* The song used in [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006386 this animation]], [[{{AwesomeMusic/Homestuck}} apart from being awesome]], actually has in-story significance: as [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006678 a recent update]] reveals, the pre-Scratch versions of the troll Ancestors have managed to avoid [[RetGone fading away along with their doomed timeline]], lingering on to become key figures in the Alpha Session [[TitleDrop Even In Death.]]
* The Signless and the Summoner are analogies to Suffragists and Suffragettes respectively.
* When the kids and the trolls arrive in the Alpha universe, the trolls take up the six mythological roles that the kids haven't used. We have: a Mage of Doom, a Bard of Rage, a Thief, a Sylph, a hero of Mind, and a hero of Blood.
* John and Karkat are both considered [[LargeHam hammy]] and [[ValuesDissonance sick]], both for opposite reasons.
** Karkat wields a sickle. His human-equivalent in ranking would be the Untouchable, or if we're using Europe, the Serf. Both can't get jobs outside of farming. John wields a hammer. His latest actions put the alpha timeline back together by removing any impurities in the events.
* I know this may be the wrong area to talk about this, but it needs to be addressed. Many fans know that the trolls follow a 6-6 naming rule. Who else has a similar name pattern? [[TrollingCreator Andrew.]]
* Why does Dad Egbert love baking cakes so much? His mother is Jane Crocker in the Beta session. Jane, as we all know, is the heiress to the Betty Crocker fortune.
* [[http://imreadingthishomestuckthing.tumblr.com/post/21287822418/in-the-beginning-the-light-of-our-hope-was-lost THIS]].
** Nanna died first though.
*** But not before Grandpa left her alone to deal with the Batterwitch while he went on adventures.
* Somewhat Fridge Horror but has anyone ever noticed that the kids' Guardians' eyes are never shown, and the ones that do show them have the same eyes as the ghosts, and their meteors had nothing to absorb the landing like an old lady or a horse? Not to mention the fact that Grandpa Harley's eyes look identical to the dead off-shoot John's even when he's 'alive'. A possible answer is that since Lord English, the only character to ever kill a ghost, has First Guardian Powers, and the kids' Guardians deaths could all be traced to someone with First Guardian powers. (John's grandma from the reckoning which was started by Jack/ Dave's Bro in a fight with Jack/ Rose's mom along with John's dad from Jack interrupting them and Jade's grandpa from a shot that Bec redirected)This begs the question: Is ghost killing a Lord English exclusive, or a First Guardian power?
** And if this is true, then that gives Bro's fight with Jack some fridge logic too. Since Dirk's (B2 Bro) title translates to 'destroyer of souls' and Jaspersprite is half eldritch princess, that would make Bro vs Jack the prince of heart vs the princess of heart.
* One of Jadesprite's many, many problems is that she cannot stop seeing the Green Sun, an experience that is apparently painful. Why don't the other First Guardians have this problem? The other Guardians ''[[EyelessFace don't have eyes]]''.
** In fact, First Guardians are specifically engineered NOT to experience this: the only difference in appearance between Bec, Earth's First Guardian, and Halley, the dog he was cloned from, is a lack of eyes, meaning that the DNA code applied to Halley that gave him the First Guardian powers also removed his eyes.
* While rereading the comic I came across the conversation between Kanaya and Jade. They were talking about the fact they were both Prospit dreamers that awoke rather early in life. Kanaya explains that Doc Scratch showed up one day and she awoke on Prospit very early. Kanaya then remarks Jade was lucky she didn't have an influence like that in her life. BUT being a Doc Scratch was First Guardian and awoke Kanaya's dreamself, it seems plausible that Bec, a First Guardian, might have been responsible for Jade's early awakening.
* The Green Sun has twice the mass of the universe. To create it, two universes had to be destroyed.
* Why is the Green Sun green while its components are red and blue? Because it couldn't be created until both the universes were destroyed. If you take a picture and remove red and blue from it, the only colors remaining will be shades of green.
** Fun Factoid: When one looks at a nebula or a star with just the eye looking into a telescope, it will appear green, because the only spectral lines we can see are oxygen, the green lines. Sun is just another way of saying "star".
* Consider the crowning of Peregrine Mendicant as Queen of Exile Town. It may seem like a simple AwesomeMomentOfCrowning, but if you recall in the past, PM managed to infiltrate the throne room of Derse (the Dark Kingdom) and ''survived'' to complete her task. With the Skaian ChessMotifs in mind, PM was a pawn that made it to the opposite side of the board and got [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_promotion promoted into a queen.]]
** This [[http://starspiritgate.livejournal.com/347090.html fancomic]] spells out just how well PM's adventures fit the 'chess pawn' theme.
*** It also makes sense, because the Medicant is a pawn at the time, which means that she can't do anything to those that are behind her, so the droll when pickpocketing her will succeed no matter what because that's how chess is played.
*** Pawns can only move forward until someone before them comes into a space diagonal to them.
* WV presses the tab key. It unlocks a secret trove of Tab soda. HilarityEnsues. Then he presses the Caps Lock key, and... unlocks a book on etiquette? WHAT ON EARTH DOES A CAPS LOCK KEY HAVE TO DO WITH ETIQ--
** [[LateToThePunchline Ooooooooooooooh!]]
** And when he activates it again the capsule locks.
** The joke is actually a bit simpler than that. WV has been typing in ALL CAPS before hitting the Caps Lock key, so he almost gets a double dose of etiquette.
* A {{Tearjerker}} sort of FridgeBrilliance is [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=002602 this page]]. Learn WV's origins and come back. Yeah. Pretty much everything he does is much HarsherInHindsight.
** More precisely, [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=002608 this page]] has its own [[ColonyDrop depressing significance]].
*** Now I'm sad and angry at the same time because of Hussie's amazing foreshadowing skill...
* In the ending of the Act 5 Flash, PM puts on the ring and is as strong as Bec Noir. She then teleports into the Troll's universe to fight and, hopefully, kill Bec Noir. What's brilliant? It's a postal worker fighting a dog.
* Way back in the beginning, AR's hatred of [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003002 illegal pictography]] and [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003008 illicit amphibian idolatry]] seem to be just because of his personality - but he's a Dersite, so of course he hates any mention of frogs!
* When WV tries opening a can with his teeth in the base, it is shown that his teeth are made for chewing things like plants. He eats a pumpkin, a plant, some... Uranium? Green Chalk? Why would he do that? Simple: Both are green, just like plants! That is also why he eats the pages of the book-paper is made out of plant matter.
* PM and [[FanNickname Bec Noir]] are ''dogfighting''.
* When the Wayward Vagabond drew the planets of his session on the wall of the capsule, he was ''[[LiteralMetaphor literally]]'' [[PaintingTheMedium Painting The]] [[IncrediblyLamePun Medium]]!
* How did PM override Bec's loyalty in [S]: Collide? ''She didn't''. Instead, she [[LoopholeAbuse found a way to use it as an advantage]]: Bec's objective is to keep Jade safe. In knocking Jade out (itself fridge brilliance, as she could easily have just killed her but didn't because her Bec self wouldn't allow it) and attacking someone she knows is a threat, she ''was'' trying to protect her, or at least could rationalize it that way.
* When "Di" Strider MST's Jane's book, he puts a note next to the name "Anna" and says that it would be a good name for Jane. Who was Jane known as before the scratch? Nanna!
** Specifically, the name was Anna *Harley*
* Dirk Strider's new fetch modus requires that the items in a column has to rhyme. It's also filled with different types of orange soda. The word "orange" is also infamous for being unrhymeable. Given the obsession for irony that both Striders share, there is no way that wasn't intentional.
* "XY" is chromosomic because X and Y are chromosomes.
* "RK" is diluvial (pertaining to floods) because it's the last two letters of [[TheArk Ark]]. It's obvious in hindsight, but it's not something that's easy to figure out.
** Which ties in with the fact that majority of Dirk's apartment is submerged, and that he's a lone vestige of life in a flooded world, just like the Ark was.
* Why is G Cat not loyal to any one member of the Alpha Session? Sure, G Cat is... well, a cat. But also because the Alpha Session ''lacks a Space player.''
** And on that note, the Beta kid's terrible prototyping combo made their session unwinnable. The reason why? Bec threw himself into it just to protect Jade. GCAT most likely never will or would.
*** In fact, GCAT would probably be Dog Tier Jade's natural enemy same as Jaspersprite.
* Nanna Egbert and Grandpa Harley both lived and died years before the events of Act 1, when Beta!Mom and Beta!Bro are still alive. ''Jane and Jake live years before Roxy and Dirk.''
* Calliope tells us that the two obligatory aspects in a SBURB session are Space and Time; all others are nifty but optional. [S] Dirk: Synchronize and [S] Dirk: Unite prove exactly HOW essential those aspects are to a successful game session. The (Void Session, Post-Scratch) B2 game lacks native Space and Time players. It takes Dirk one ThanatosGambit, one rocketboard, two robot helpers, two corpsesmooches, three non-linear space/time transportation devices, and three or four [[CrowningMomentofAwesome crowning moments of awesome]]...all to solve a displacement problem Jade and Dave could have fixed with almost no effort.
* The ShipTease with Alpha!Lalonde and Jane's dad can be attributed to Beta!Lalonde and John's dad being in a relationship as well.
* Jake just accidentally killed a fairybull. He feels just awful. [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004952 Does this]] [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004953 remind you]] [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004954 of anything]][[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004955 ???]]
* It should've been obvious that the letter in the mailbox was a trap, since it's taking place on 11/11, Veteran's Day. ''Mail isn't delivered on Veteran's Day''.
* A long way back Dave had [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004727 this]] conversation with Equius, implying that Bro's training had made him too powerful to properly wield a normal sword, causing them to break under the stress. Now, [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006418 what is the only weapon Dirk/Bro has ever used?]]
** Even better is what happens to both their weapons by the end of the series. Dave ultimately ends up with another Caledscrath that he never gets around to breaking, whereas, as of [S] Collide, Dirk's "unbreakable" katana gets shattered. A fitting end to the Irony Masters' weapons.
* When Jade asks her magic 8-ball if it's John's birthday, she takes its answer of "not exactly" as a reminder of what a cheap piece of garbage it is. Looking back at this page after learning about ectobiology, we realize its prediction was as wrong as it could be; it is EXACTLY John's birthday (as opposed to the mere anniversary of his birthday).
** You can't forget that it's also a tongue-in-cheek joke about the date in the story compared to the date the update happens on. For the majority of the story, it has always been April 13, 2009. So, it's his birthday, but also, kind of not.
** There's also the fact that the Incipisphere is described as a place untouched by the flow of time in the kids' universe and as a Timeless Expanse. It's because of this that Grandpa Harley's exploits in the Medium are possible.
* Recent updates are a call back to Jade's fantasy of being a wolf, only now told from WV's perspective, and in the form of Serenity's flash speak. Remembering the final line makes me worry for Serenity.
** Or Vriska, which is more likely since she actually is described specifically as a weird bug. Scratch did say she wouldn't live to see the silver lining.
** And its in morse code.
* Terezi [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003424 specifically states]] that it is the job of the Exiles to repopulate the player's planets after the Reckoning. This appears to have happened successfully on Alternia, with Spades Slick and the Midnight Crew having "made this town what it is" despite it being "nothin' but a bunch of dust and rocks" beforehand. On Earth, however, three of its five Exiles have been brutally murdered and the survivors are off-planet seeking revenge (or building more towns out of tinned food products). This means that, failing a biologically viable group of sentient beings landing on Earth, either through accident or design, ''our home planet will never be repopulated.'' Goddamnit, Hussie.
** Not only will Earth not be repopulated, but the universe has come to an end!
*** Our universe had cancer anyway. It was screwed out of the Forge.
** When the WQ had her landing on earth revealed it showed that she had brought several of her people with her so they may have lived through the entire ordeal, after all the WQ, WV, PM, and AR all survived without much in however long they had been on Earth.
* Draconian Dignitary got the jump on Dave on twice. In Act 5, Dave finally returns the favor.
* John is wearing a spade shirt when Karkat discovers him. Dave is wearing a heart shirt/bib when Terezi discovers ''him''.
* At one point, Dave finds a disturbing comic on his Bro's computer, where Rolf somehow kills Animal. What makes it especially disturbing is that they're ''WesternAnimation/MuppetBabies''. So, why use their Muppet baby selves and not their regular Muppet selves? Well, anyone who watched that cartoon growing up might remember the theme song, specifically these lines:
-->When the world looks kind of weird and you wish that you weren't there,
-->Just close your eyes and make believe, and you can be anywhere!
** What happens with the SBURB/SGRUB players? Their homes are transported to weird worlds, and when they fall asleep, they wind up somewhere else.
** I dunno if this is appropriate, but: [[http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?24118-Cheerfulbear-PLAY-ME WAY NSFW]] (just delete this addition if it doesn't belong, but it is the source of that comic Dave found)
* In Seer: Descend, most of the books you read on the shelves were non-sense. However there were one that now made sense. It was a book on a theory that with some adjustments, the Queen's Ring of Orbs fourfold could be modified to add more orbs to it, to which is immediately dismissed by Rose as nonsense. This is, however, instead an instance of DevelopersForesight now that Act 6 is in the post scratched session.
** Or it refers to the trolls' session and their 12-orb rings.
*** I always thought the rings of each session always are supposed to have as many orbs as there are predestined prototypings to happen/have always happened (weird time shit and Skaia's interference is to be thanked/blamed for that), which only leaves the post-scratch session?
* [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006716 Andrew's death scene]] seemingly exists only for only one purpose: to bring closure to a Formspring RunningGag about him marrying Vriska, which subscribers to the [[DeathOfTheAuthor DOTA philosophy]] will likely ''never bother to find out about.''
* Thinking too much about cyclical timelines and Skaian visions brings up serious questions of whether there's any sort of free will at all in the game.
** Free will does exist, it is just that the characters have knowledge of the future that ends up motivating them to do the acts that appear inevitable. See Vriska's need to involve herself in Bec Noir's creation: she sees John inexplicably fall asleep at his computer when about to prototype the doll, and decides to involve herself by putting him to sleep herself. The fact that she has used her powers to interfere with the kids' timeline feeds back into her own timeline, creating the events that entice her in the past.
* When Aradia found Li'l Cal, Dad's wallet modus was within...with some blood on it, and seeing as how in the present timeline is is currently held by John...
** Maybe Dad had a backup wallet, like a sensible person.
* [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005981 This update]] is a CallBack to [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004048 that update.]] Following that snap, [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004049 Sollux falls asleep.]] Now, [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005981 this]] [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/sbahj.php?s=6&p=005982 update]] uploaded about 2 to 3 in the morning, could signify [[NowILayMeDownToSleep time for the Homestuck audience to go to sleep due to being up too late,]] or attempt an ArchiveBinge [[FridgeHorror in the new Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff CSS]] [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/sbahj.php?viewlog=6 from the beginning.]]
* [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005770 This page]] shows four of the kiss-ressurections in the comic so far. The titles match. On one hand, we have the ''Seer'' of Mind kissing the Page of ''Breath'', while the Heir of ''Breath'' kisses the ''Seer'' of Light. On the other, we have the ''Knight'' of Blood kissing the Sylph of ''Space'', while the Witch of ''Space'' kisses the ''Knight'' of Time.
* So we're told that no matter what players may do, the Light Kingdom will ALWAYS fall and the Dark Kingdom will ALWAYS initiate the Reckoning... but why? Because if the players were ever to ''avoid'' the Reckoning, their paradox clones can't go to their home planet to become them -- a paradox which would naturally lead to a [[FateWorseThanDeath doomed]] [[TimeCrash timeline.]]
* Something's been bugging me about how Andrew Hussie seems so familiar, what with his habit of being playful, MoodWhiplash, FanDisservice and [[{{Jossed}} Jossing]]--holy crap he's the webcomics equivalent of Creator/HideoKojima!
* Many aspects of the comic, such as {{Stable Time Loop}}s, RPG elements, and four chosen heroes, can be seen as an elaborate parody of VideoGame/FinalFantasyI.
* The timing of the latest albums, [[http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/album/the-wanderers The Wanderers]] and [[http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/album/sburb Sburb,]] could fit here. Consider the Wanderers album released in July [[ScheduleSlip as possibly the one meant for June,]] and its theme around the Exiles CrossingTheDesert in a HeatWave. Either way, the album works well as music for the hot months of summertime! AND, the Sburb album is a collection of piano music that could fit well detailing the beginning to ending of the players' conflict in Sburb. If this was meant as the official July release, it could work well as AwesomeMusic played along with a fireworks display in celebrating the Fourth of July!
* Another possible link between Jade, the Witch of Space, and Jake, the Page of Hope: Spes is the goddess of hope.
* Doc Scratch [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005527 says]], "I am an immortal entity with a large cue ball for a head, and no biological means of reproduction." That means Cal isn't anatomically correct.
** What does it imply that you believed otherwise until you read that?
*** Remember Bro's ''other'' puppets?
* Lord English and all his affiliates are [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green green]], according to Wiki/ThatOtherWiki a number of artists and poets associate that color with TheDevil.
* Consider this quote from Doc Scratch for a second, "Each dark pocket, in time, will be filled." Depending on how this is pronounced, this could either be [[TheChessmaster referring to how Scratch uses the kids/trolls to achieve his own agenda]] or [[TheOmniscient a prophecy of the Scratch fixing everything up in the two sessions]]
** Also there are 12 trolls + 4 kids = 16 (the number of pieces in a chess set). The prior may apply here.
*** The trolls and kids as one side of a chess board actually makes a lot of sense. You have two Heirs as the King and Queen, and Knights as the Knights, obviously. The Witches have been acting a lot like Rooks throughout, doing critical work on the sidelines we never really focus on (Jade corresponds with her penpal, Feferi makes dream bubbles). That leaves the Seers as the Bishops and everyone else as pawns.
*** The game started out as chess, then Jack took over and the rules started to bend closer to cards, eight players working as chess tokens may set the game right again. Probably 4 Derse dreamers and 4 Prospit dreamers, so Sollux really was doomed from the start.
*** It could also support my whole "Doc Scratch is the one who gives the commands" theory: he's the only one who really has the power to control the player but he can't be controlled himself.
*** Three possible readings of the quote: 1. Each dark pocket (in Doc Scratch's knowledge) will eventually be filled. 2. Each dark pocket in the flow of time (all the incomplete time loops) will be filled. or 3. Each dark pocket (of a pool table) will be filled (all billiards-themed characters will die).
*** Snowman must not die - because if the eight-ball is potted prematurely, both players lose!
*** Snowman dies in Cascade. In concurrence with this, the trolls' universe is destroyed.
*** If you remember from [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/cascade.php?s=6&p=6009 [S] Cascade]] (assuming you've seen it), Slick killed all the other members of the Felt, and then Snowman.
*** He didn't kill Clover.
*** Likely why Lord English was able to die; as Slick had sort of joined scratchs side when he killed snowman. Their team pocketed the eight ball prematurely,losing them the game.
*** Correct me if I'm wrong... but aren't there 16 balls on a pool table, as well? If you include the cue ball, that is. It probably means something.
*** Since doc scratch is pool themed, it's also a reference to the fact that in pool you fill the pockets on the table
* The lack of updates for a few days now since [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005702 5/27]] might actually be brilliant. Currently, the audience is witnessing two story perspectives-the main screen where updates are usually posted, and the web site banner on top with Homestuck's narrator-for-now Doc Scratch getting ready for his guest Spades Slick. The last posted update has the guest, with his weapon, bonking the PhysicalGod narrator over his head. Now, how is this action relative to lack of updates? Remember the second half of Act 2 when the audience is introduced to WV, who seemed very hungry and had not eaten for a long time yet had enough energy to wander the Desert Wasteland in search of food and wind up in that chamber? As WV and SS are of the same species, it's possible for Slick to do nothing but bonk Doc's head for a couple of days without rest or food in a feeble attempt to crack his skull. AND Doc might not mind letting Slick do this for two reasons: One-He's a PhysicalGod; days could pass like minutes to him, and Two-Doc's a SmugSuper, he could be ALLOWING Slick to hammer him nonstop with his horsehead club for [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005519 a couple days,]] just to make [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005520 this result]] [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005521 more humiliating]] to Spades Slick. In other words, SS is holding up the narrator Doc Scratch from narration!
* Let's not forget that somebody made a '''[[http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b392/Eyes5/DSC05225.jpg real]]''' Lil Cal. And given that Lil Cal's existence in a given universe means that it will make whatever universe appear in become a living nightmare, it effectively means that, within the context of ''Homestuck'' canon, whoever made it is an UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom [[ApocalypseHow of the highest level]].
* Why is Jake the same shade of green as Lord English? Because Jake learned hope from Grandma English, who demonstrated hope by changing the meaning of English (most likely stealing his color), and Lord English is basing his on two instances of [[HopeSpot false hope]]: Jake, and Calliope.
* Uu is a cherub; according to troll mythology angels are used to usher in the end. This is a double entendre, for a possible origin of Lord English and the narrative end of Homestuck.
* UU and uu have specific shackles that only they can unlock and Calliope wears her brother's on her left leg, meaning uu wears his on his right. Remember how Lord English doesn't have a [[LifeOrLimbDecision right leg]]? Also each has a color spiral above where the chain connects with the wall and Calli has a Lime green spiral while her brother's is "Candy" red since [[WordOfGod he is based on Jigsaw]]. The spiral seems to match the swirls on a cherub's face which may be implying the [[BizarreAlienBiology cherubs]] can change blood color. Lord English has been shown to have red blood and matching cheeks. As an added bonus watch the intermission that showed Lord English and read the opening code considering uu's symbol consists of "U" and "~".
* Alright, so Calliope's dreamself is dead and Caliborn seems to have taken control. No big deal, Roxy knows how to wake her up and her soul's floating around in the Dream Bubbles now. Except Lord English just went into a Dream Bubbles and destroyed everyone there...
* uu/UU's tag represents Uracil replacing the T in DNA. So by logic, TT (TimeusTestified) may be in more danger of being 'replaced' by uu. Remember the conversation Calliope and Dirk had about Prince of Heart translating to 'Destroyer of Souls'? And how Caliborn wants to *destroy* Calliope's *soul*?
** It gets better. Remember how Dirk said that he doubted he'd be destroying any souls unless he became a "cartoonishly evil sorceror"? Soon afterwards, Lord English arrives to destroy a bunch of souls in the dream bubbles. Remember what was in his hand?
* Doubles as Fridge Horror: Calliope and undyingUmbrage make a point behind their universe being dead, or dying at any rate. Kernelsprites are attracted to the doomed and deceased.
* We all know that Lord English was already here. We all know Caliborn is Lord English. We know Caliborn has been searching for Calliope to finish her off. Now take the time to remember the form that she took when she visited Roxy's dream to tell her about the Quest Beds. Caliborn was already here, but so was Calliope.
* Li'l Cal is a juju. Jujus origins are untraceable. We know Li'l Cal exists because of a causality loop which means he exists because he exists. Sort of like a law of physics or even a fundamental flaw in the session/universe. The notion that he would spring from the void even makes sense, if the void refers to Paradox Space, Since Paradox Space is basically fate. The creation of Jujus goes in line with the idea of fundamental flaws in sessions dooming them. It could even be considered a reverse of the gaming abstraction idea in the sense that a few bad lines of code create random glitches in reality. Heck that could even explain all the callbacks to different "games" like Problem Sleuth and Jailbreak; straggling lines of code not properly removed before release.
* Li'l Cal is a Juju that can be used to hypnotize a person who gazes into its eyes. Why does this never happen before Act 6 Act 5 Act 1x2? Because both boys it winds up entrusted with always wore ''shades''.
* The Felt album. Listen to all of the songs, then listen to them in [[http://www.youtube.com/user/Mewchu11 REVERSE]]
** [[LateToThePunchline Care to clue me in?]]
** They're full of [[SubliminalSeduction backmasking]] and samples that have been slowed down or sped up. The album is about a group whose gimmick is ''time manipulation''.
** Also listen to [[http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/time-on-my-side "Time on My Side"]]. Then listen it 4/3 (=> 413) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAWT5y3AeOM faster]] (WARNING: Any love for the original song may fucking pirouette off of a cliff. You have been warned.)
* All of the members of the Midnight Crew correspond to one side of the troll romance, which also has to do with the symbol they represent.
** Why is ''Hearts'' Boxcars such as avid Tavros/Vriska shipper? Because he has a heart fetish!
** Why does ''Spades'' Slick hate everything? Because he represents the "kismesis" side of the romance, visceral hatred.
** Why is ''Diamonds'' Droog always trying to convice Jack NOT to kill everything? He represents "Moirallegiance".
*** Also, 'Droog' is a Russian term for 'friend', which is the closest human approximation we've got for moirallegiance.
*** In addition to that, "droog" is often used in ''Literature/AClockworkOrange'' among a group of teens for their gang members.
** Why does ''Clubs'' Deuce stop the fight between Liv Tyler and WV? Because he acted like a "Auspistice" between those two.
* After Jack becomes the Sovereign Slayer, he's referred to as an Ace to fit with the poker-card theme. In Blackjack, an Ace and a Jack beats a King and a Queen.
** He could always beat them. A [[IncrediblyLamePun Blackjack]] beats every other hand.
* Why does Jack become a Spade? It may have something to do with his friendly yet hate-filled relationship with Karkat (and EVERYONE). Although Karkat does not feel the same way.
** I think it's more that during his time as Jack, he's playing up his difference from the chess motif by referencing a blackjack motif (Jack NOIR= Jack Black= Blackjack), whereas by the time he's Spades Slick, he's just one of the suites forming the midnight crew. His chance to be the Ace had come and gone.
* Most likely, when you saw [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005449 this page]] you thought to yourself, "Wow, what an out of character thing for an omnicidal maniac to do." But, when he put on the ring, he prototyped himself with all the first tier sprites, specifically John's Harlequin. So, he did it because he's part clown.
** "Wow, what an out of character thing for an omnicidal maniac to do." I thought that it had [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003065 already]][[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003203 been established]] that Jack is a bit of a CloudCuckoolander?
* In the past, Bec Noir has tried to teleport to wherever John and Dave are and kill them. In a way, he succeeded. Recently, it's revealed that he also tried to kill Jade by this method, but couldn't bring himself to do so. So what about Rose? We haven't heard from her in a while...
** Except that we know that [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005201 she's still alive when the Rift happens]].
*** Actually no, we most certainly do not know that. Her timeline and her timeline alone specifically goes black long before anyone else's does and no one can explain why.
*** The reason Rose's screen goes black is because she pretty much just went grimdark. Vriska said that she couldn't see John when he flew into the Blackout, which is the same reason Kanaya can't see her. It's too dark in there.
*** A way of interpreting this last thing is that if the time windows can't see Rose, neither can Noir.
*** Well, from [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004637 this page]] we know that Rose is still alive at some point in the future, and from what Dave says it sounds like it's pretty close to the full 24 hours. But we don't know exactly how the timeline aligns.
* Spades Slick hates clocks and all matter of things to do with time. Who ends up stopping his counterpart Bec Noir in his tracks? The Maid of Time.
* When confronted by a prototyped PM following Cascade, Jack immediately falls in love. Although he has been shown to respect her, this is never even hinted at before now. What changed? Why, [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003179 her species.]]
* Spades Slick's obsession with [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005523 scottie dogs]] is HilariousInHindsight considering his counterpart Jack Noir's final form once Bec is prototyped.
* According to Hussie, the Midnight Crew Intermission was supposed to allow the readers insight into the mind of the comic's main villain, initially revealed to be the Beta Session's Jack Noir. With Lord English being played up as the True Final Boss and a more major villain overall in Act 6, the above statement began to seem like a red herring... and then [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/ACT6ACT5ACT1x2COMBO.php?s=6&p=007721 THIS]] happened. If that update means Lord English is actually : Jack Noir possessed by Caliborn's soul, rather than an older Caliborn himself, Jack Noir may end up being the main villain of the story two times over, and Hussie's statement is still truth. Even if not, hey, Jack's still gonna be a major player from the looks of it, so that's probably gonna be good enough.
** Also, this was the first time Lord English was mentioned in the comic.
* Bec Noir only seems to be concerned with killing. He's kind of a one-dimensional character, isn't he? Maybe that's because he's only 4-dimensional, to his counterpart's 12.
** That idea falls apart when you realize that counterpart was never prototyped. Spades Slick was exiled before he could get the Queen's Ring.
* The conversations the kids and trolls have with each other are shown exactly, because they're typed - the logs are automatically created. The Midnight Crew's speech is paraphrased in the frame captions because they're communicating via radio, and no exact record is made.
* Crowbar is the only member of the Felt who can keep all 15 of them together. His hat is shaped like a triangle.
* I never understood why God Tier people got those lame hoods...Then I realized, they were attaining a literal [[StealthPun godhood]]!
* Andrew has stated that Derse represents Destruction. Ironic then, that two Dersite Dream Selves and Derse's moon help ''create'' the Green Sun. Or maybe not, because two universes are destroyed by beings empowered by the Green Sun (the first universe Bec Noir destroys directly, the second universe Doc Scratch destroys by proxy - with Spades Slick firing a bullet that's probably ALSO Green Sun empowered.)
** Probably more relevant is the fact that Alternia/Beforus's pink MOONS, as there are two of them, one larger more visible and a smaller one orbiting the first, ostensibly resemble another planet of similar coloration (Hint: It's Derse)
** It is possible that Derse represents creation through destruction; the death of their king and queen creates a new universe. Therefore, Prospit would be destruction through creation; Jade's current form may reflect as much, as does John's task of locating the Tumor. The second part is the weak link, I will admit, but the former matches wonderfully.
* Eveyone's IM handle is initialed with an A, C, G or T - like in DNA.
** The Calliope and her brother's IM handles are UU and uu, respectively. U replaces T when DNA gets transcribed into RNA. RNA only has a single strand, while DNA has a double strand
** The name of the Alpha timeline's Bec counterpart? GCAT.
** The whole DNA letter theme-naming becomes even more significant when you realize the idea behind Sburb is to create new universes. DNA is the basic code for life, so ''of course'' they're in all the chumhandles!
* Why can the "player" hop from character to character at a whim in the main story? In chess, you can move any piece with somewhere to go. Why does the perspective change randomly in the Midnight Crew Intermission? In cards, you can only play the hand you're dealt.
* I was impressed with the versatility of the word "scratch" and all the relevance to story in some way.
** 1. It refers to the billiard term, "Scratch" or to put the Cue Ball in a pocket. It makes an apt name for certain Cue Ball themed villain. Plus in billiards when a Player scratches, they lose their turn and the next player begins their turn. This is similar to how when a scratch is preformed in the troll world the Players and Ancestors switched roles. The Ancestors scratched and lost their turn, now it the other Players' turn.
** 2. It refers to the action of "scratching" a record, which is moving the needle across portions of a record to make an odd sound. Interestingly, doing so moves to a different part of the record which is kind of like moving through time.
** 3. It refers to scratching a CD. Scratches on the surface can cause a number of misreads and various other problems. In a way, a scratch on a CD is like cancer to the CD. Sometimes its fatal and sometimes a doctor can cure it. The trolls screwed up the kids' session is similar to how Terezi scratched the game disk.
** 4. It refers to "starting over from scratch". "Starting over from scratch" is a phrase used to describe having to start over with absolutely nothing. Where "starting over from square one" means going back to the beginning in the same condition you are now, "starting over from scratch" refers to something even more extreme. To use a board game as an example, "square one" would mean you get sent back to the start square. However, "from scratch" means you would need to start a whole new game. This parallels the fact that once the Scratch happens, the current players aren't sent back to the start of their journey in order to try again. A whole new game session begins with new players.
** 5. It can also refer to "making from scratch". This is a phrase used to describe building, making, or creating something without using any part that is already partially done. This phrase is used in cooking or baking. If you were baking cookies, you could buy all the ingredients needed and make them from start to finish and bake the cookies from scratch or you could buy a package of Betty Crocker's Cookie Dough and use that as a starting point as several of the ingredients are already mixed together and half the work is done for you.
** 6. Scratching Out. A term that used to mean deletion or removal of something from something else. IE Scratching an item of a list.
* With the revelation that The Scratch is a hard reset of REALITY and that if the kids want to survive they need to jump ship to another universe (like, say, the Troll Session). The fact that Bec Noir arrived in the Troll Session with an arm covered in blood can inspire this. (since the Trolls and Kids are implied in the first conversation of the act to come up with a plan to do exactly this, they'd all be in one place...)
** It's scarier if you assume they do somehow make it. So they're in the trolls' session, possibly searching the veil for the right meteor that their friends are on. Do they find it? Well, Gamzee had to get a hold of Zillyhoo somehow, right?
** Considering the EOA5, the original comment here saying "if the kids want to survive they need to jump ship to another universe" is brilliance itself...
* Recent updates reveal that Betty Crocker wasn't human. However, it should ''already'' be known that she was [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_Crocker never a real person to begin with.]]'
* How does one get rid of glitches in a game cartridge? [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=008258 By blowing on it.]]
* Back in the beginning of Act 6, en route to the Alpha session, Rose says the plan is to make the "void" Alpha session viable by replacing its core, Skaia's Battlefield, with the one Jade stole from the Beta session. Long story short, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somatic-cell_nuclear_transfer this is how cloning works]].
* According to WordOfGod, all of the ships are canon. Just Hussie being a trolling creator, right? WRONG! Homestuck encompasses many different universes and timelines, meaning that given the Many Worlds Interpretation, all pairing combinations could indeed be canon in at least one of them.
** Alternatively, Lord English has taken control of the narrative from Hussie, who has less control and insight about the story, as implied by him not knowing that Slick’s red eye is cybernetic [[https://medium.com/@RoseOfNobility/et-tu-hussie-on-spades-slick-bec-noir-eb3f310df974]].
* Remember that update on Andrew's Formspring where [[http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/40585720/Combined_Formspring_Web_Aug-28-2011.htm#mspadventures197489823865410924 he tried CS5 before returning to CS3?]] Know how he mentions having "a ton of pertinent files open all the time so I don't have to spend as much time rooting around for stuff?" [[http://mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005715 These]] [[http://mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005716 spoiler-ish]] [[http://mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005717 updates]] may be a Meta example of one way the story unfolds-[[YouShouldKnowThisAlready mining past images]] for [[CaptainObvious use later in present updates,]] with these updates a CallBack of a past TearJerker concerning Karkat and Terezi.]]
** Regarding the above mentioned eventual callback, the other Seer and Knight are equally likely to recreate this scene. Look how easily those pictures can be edited, Terezi's shades could easily replaced by Dave's pair.
** Finally, Andrew may have commented on [[http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/40585720/Combined_Formspring_Web_Aug-28-2011.htm#mspadventures192553069316180507 his real life delay for a few days]] [[http://mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005688 here,]] affecting the suddenly succintly slow pace of the story.
* Some of the songs in [[http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/album/homestuck-vol-8 Vol. 8]] have a DoubleMeaningTitle.
** [[http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/drift-into-the-sun Drift into the Sun]] refers to Rose and Dave undergoing their suicide mission to explode the Green Sun, using Derse’s moon as a vehicle. Alternatively, a drift, [[http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/drift?show=0&t=1320008079 defined as a mass of matter,]] in this case Derse’s moon, is turned “into the sun” thanks to the Tumor.
** The bonus song, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6e2XacZSIs Black Hole/Green Sun,]] refers to the Tumor's detonation as a black hole and supernova into the Green Sun. However, at the end of [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/cascade.php?s=6&p=6009 [S] Cascade,]] when the song ends, Jade, John, the planets, and her cruiser plow through the Fourth Wall, leaving a black hole behind as their point of entry and escape.
* There are 4 Sburb players in each session, and each of their names has four letters. The troll were initially going to have two teams of six players, and they all have two six letter names.
* How many people here knew that a becquerel is a unit of ''radiation'' before reading Homestuck?
** Or that Irradiated Steak is a product you can actually buy?
*** Or that Irradiated Salisbury Steak is a health item you can obtain in VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas?
*** The tagline for that trope is alarmingly apt: "From where you're kneeling, it must seem like an 18-carat run of bad luck. But the truth is... the game was rigged from the start.". When you consider other elements of play within that game as listed on the trope page, such as gambling/Casino, Dog and God (!), A courier (!), and the list goes on...
*** FridgeHorror: Radiation causes cancer. Or in this case, [[ILoveNuclearPower gives it god-like powers]].
* Close to Valentine's Day 2011, we have [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005400 two characters]] [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005401 on]] [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005402 a]] [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005403 date]], AND [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005407 a steamy fanfic]] from one of the troll's ancestors. [[WebVideo/BadMovieBeatdown OMFG, COINCIDENCE.]]
** Now, near St. Patrick's Day, we have the Felt being revealed as being from a race of Leprechauns. Hussie is damn good at this.
** The last update for the year 2010 was "Lab: Drop". The lab in question is a giant ball situated on a thin spire. Happy new years, everybody.
*** And then come the beginning of 2012, [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006312 it]] [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006313 happened]] [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006314 again.]]
* Look at brainwashed God Tier Jane and Grimbark Jade side-by-side. A girl with a red hood and a big, bad wolf... remind you of anything?
** ''And they were both Grandma.''
* The Beforus troll session was screwed from the beginning because their session contained no ectobiological lab, meaning that the only way for them to come into existence was for them to have come from the other side of a Scratch. But the same is also true of the Alternian troll session and the Pre-Scratch human session. Both of those contained Doc Scratch, one of whose components is Arquiusprite. And since Arquiusprite was created in the Post-Scratch human session, things would inevitably conspire to force the humans to scratch their session.
* Davepeta is a combination of a Rogue of Heart and a Knight of Time. The Heart Aspect gives the ability to connect with people, and also relates the soul to a heart motif. The Time Aspect allows you to reverse time to fix your mistakes with knowledge from doomed timelines, including reversing death. Knights also weaponize their aspect to benefit themselves. And with that, the {{Undertale}} shout out makes perfect sense.
** Additionally, remember what happens if you complete a Genocide run in Undertale? You have to face an incredibly difficult boss, and even if you win you [[spoiler:render any future non-Genocide runs completely unwinnable.]] Guess what Caliborn did.
* There's some incredible similarities between Aradia and Dave. Both had an interest in old dead things. Both type in red without capitals or punctuation. Both are heroes of Time. Both have a subdued personality due to the violent actions of somebody close to them.
** Death is an effect of the passing of time.
* Both the A2 and B1 universes are destroyed because of the actions of Jack Noir/Spades Slick and the Black Queen/Snowman. Jack Noir is depicted as an ace. The Black Queen is depicted as an 8 ball. The name of a hand with two black aces and two black eights in poker is the "Dead Man's Hand".
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* Aradia's SGRUB title is Maid of Time. [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005382 Here,]] she states she is [[IncrediblyLamePun made of time.]] Ha ha.
** Heir (Air) of Breath? SEER of Light? Even Knight of Time could be taken with a second meaning.
*** Breath of Air and Time of Night.
** Heir of Void: Void of Heir (Air). Possible foreshadowing of Equius's manner of death.
*** Just stopping by to say that's absolutely brilliant.
* The planet of each player seems reveal what elemental atribute each player has (or maybe it's the other way around)
** Some are obvious.
*** Wind and Zephyr for Breath
*** Light for Light
*** Quartz and Clockwork for Time
*** Frogs and... Frogs for Space (it works in story)
*** Pulse and Blood
*** Silence and Void
*** Thought and Mind
*** Fire and Doom
** But some don't really seem to make that much sense.
*** How are Maps or Treasure meaningful to Light? Light can be luck or it can be insight, like a map. Too bad Vriska doesn't use it that way since [[MemeticMutation luck doesn't matter]].
*** Makes more sense when you consider the other half of her title. Thieves and treasure, hm?
*** Also, the Light symbol looks a lot like a compass rose.
*** Nepeta's planet is Land of Little Cubes and Tea- what does that have to do with Heart? Look at [[http://whatpumpkin.com/godtier-hoodies.html the Hero of Heart emblem]]: it's a tea cup. Also, people tend to clear their conscience with a cup of tea.
*** Remember that the planet names are often abbreviated like Dave's Land of Heat and Clockwork is referred to as LOHAC. With this in mind, Nepeta's planet makes much more sense.
*** Also worth noting is that the ancestor of the suit of hearts was the cups in tarot cards.
*** And this in part is explained by her moirail being Equius as well: the constellation of Sagittarius is famous for containing the Teapot asterism.
*** How does Wrath and Angels connect to Hope? Angels are usually portrayed as messengers of God, and they often brought hope to people through their messages.
*** Dew and Glass: Dew is water, which sustains life and lets it grow.



* Doc Scratch seeks death after summoning Lord English and ending the universe, but he needs help. Why? Because, [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005512 as his creation shows,]] he's an omniscient, omnipotent prankster. Comedy is easy. ''Dying is hard.''
** And the reason Scratch flipped out on Vriska? She was using, essentially, himself to fight himself. [[TimeyWimeyBall Then he blew himself up.]] Sort of.
* So why did Doc Scratch prod Rose into checking the cue ball and going grimdark? Even after she recovered, she was surrounded by a blackout that kept the trolls and anyone else from reading her future or that of anyone near her. In other words, it prevented anyone from realizing what The Tumor actually does until it's long too late.
* Doc Scratch says [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005520 here]] that he is a soldier in a war of one bullet fired. Which bullet? The bullet fired by Spades Slick at Snowman that kills her and destroys the Troll's universe, summoning Lord English.
* Here's a thought... the Green Sun was formed when the Troll's Universe was destroyed, thus everything inside it would be obliterated and non-existant. But then where are Doc Scratch, his clock, and part of his building surviving that the Doc's body could become Lord English? Simple. A POCKET Universe. The cueball-headed Doc was Scratched.
* As of the act 5-6 Intermission, we learn that Doc Scratch really is an ''excellent host.'' Falls emphatically under FridgeHorror, as well.



* "There Once was a Man from Trolltucket" would be exactly as offensive to its native audience, but for entirely different reasons.



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* Doc Scratch seeks death after summoning Lord English and ending the universe, but he needs help. Why? Because, [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005512 as his creation shows,]] he's an omniscient, omnipotent prankster. Comedy is easy. ''Dying is hard.''
** And the reason Scratch flipped out on Vriska? She was using, essentially, himself to fight himself. [[TimeyWimeyBall Then he blew himself up.]] Sort of.
* So why did Doc Scratch prod Rose into checking the cue ball and going grimdark? Even after she recovered, she was surrounded by a blackout that kept the trolls and anyone else from reading her future or that of anyone near her. In other words, it prevented anyone from realizing what The Tumor actually does until it's long too late.
* Doc Scratch says [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005520 here]] that he is a soldier in a war of one bullet fired. Which bullet? The bullet fired by Spades Slick at Snowman that kills her and destroys the Troll's universe, summoning Lord English.
* Here's a thought... the Green Sun was formed when the Troll's Universe was destroyed, thus everything inside it would be obliterated and non-existant. But then where are Doc Scratch, his clock, and part of his building surviving that the Doc's body could become Lord English? Simple. A POCKET Universe. The cueball-headed Doc was Scratched.
* As of the act 5-6 Intermission, we learn that Doc Scratch really is an ''excellent host.'' Falls emphatically under FridgeHorror, as well.

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* Doc Scratch seeks death after summoning Lord English In the latest update, Karkat calms Gamzee down by shooshing him and ending patting his face and the universe, two are established as moirails. Now, way long ago, we got to see Nepeta's shipping wall, where there was a picture of Gamzee and Karkat as moirails, with Gamzee touching Karkat's face. Nepeta noted that it's still plausible, but he needs help. Why? Because, that the [[ForeShadowing roles will have to be dramatically reversed.]]
*
[[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005512 as his creation shows,]] he's an omniscient, omnipotent prankster. Comedy is easy. ''Dying is hard.''
** And the reason Scratch flipped out on Vriska? She was using, essentially, himself to fight himself. [[TimeyWimeyBall Then he blew himself up.]] Sort of.
* So why did Doc Scratch prod Rose into checking the cue ball and going grimdark? Even after she recovered, she was surrounded by a blackout
com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005971 On this page, it says that kept the Handmaid and the Condesce are the last two trolls and anyone else alive]]. But what happened to God tier Aradia?
** [[NeckSnap The Condesce happened]].
** "The last two trolls alive" almost certainly means the last two trolls in ''that universe''. It's been established that Sgrub is a separate universe
from reading her future or Alternia, and that timelines of anyone near her. In other words, it prevented anyone from realizing what The Tumor actually does until it's long too late.
* Doc Scratch says [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005520 here]] that he is a soldier in a war of one bullet fired. Which bullet? The bullet fired by Spades Slick at Snowman that kills her and destroys the Troll's universe, summoning Lord English.
* Here's a thought... the Green Sun was formed when the Troll's Universe was destroyed, thus everything inside it would be obliterated and non-existant. But then where
separate universes are non-parallel. Comparing chronology between universes is meaningless. Doc Scratch, his clock, and part of his building surviving all people, would understand this.
*** This also indicates
that the Doc's body could become Lord English? Simple. A POCKET Universe. The cueball-headed Doc was Scratched.
fight would take place in the Alternian universe, not Alpha!Human. Helmsman is dead.
* As Sopor slime’s name may be derived from the word "sober", given their similar pronounciation and opposite meanings.
** Or the word soporific, which means "tending to induce drowsiness or sleep."
* Vriska and Tavros are NotSoDifferent! They both have deep self-esteem issues, they just deal with it in different ways. Vriska hides her insecurity by acting overbearing and lashing out at people; Tavros finds it difficult to assert himself in social situations, and when he tries, [[CrazyJealousGuy goes]] [[EntitledToHaveYou overboard]]. Neither of them know what self-confidence really is, and each can be considered reversals
of the act 5-6 Intermission, we learn that Doc Scratch really other (JerkWithAHeartOfGold-BitchInSheepsClothing).
** Of course they would seem similar to most people. Vriska
is an ''excellent host.'' Falls emphatically under FridgeHorror, as well.a Sociopath, and Tavros has Asperger's Syndrome. Practically the only way to know these are different things is to know someone with one disorder and to actually have the other one yourself.



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* There's a recurring chess motif, and Vriska thinks of herself as TheChessmaster who's been manipulating the kids and trolls. There are 12 trolls, and four kids. How many pieces are there on one side in any given game of chess?
** And the Felt consists of the 15 gang members plus Doc Scratch, making another set of 16. And Doc Scratch and Vriska play chess against each other!
* Aradia's SGRUB title is Maid of Time. [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005382 Here,]] she states she is [[IncrediblyLamePun made of time.]] Ha ha.
** Heir (Air) of Breath? SEER of Light? Even Knight of Time could be taken with a second meaning.
*** Breath of Air and Time of Night.
** Heir of Void: Void of Heir (Air). Possible foreshadowing of Equius's manner of death.
*** Just stopping by to say that's absolutely brilliant.
* Why does [[BlandNameProduct Trollian]] work with the kid's AIM-esque Pesterchum? Because Trollian allows the user to combine several IM accounts, AIM included.
* In the latest update, Karkat calms Gamzee down by shooshing him and patting his face and the two are established as moirails. Now, way long ago, we got to see Nepeta's shipping wall, where there was a picture of Gamzee and Karkat as moirails, with Gamzee touching Karkat's face. Nepeta noted that it's still plausible, but that the [[ForeShadowing roles will have to be dramatically reversed.]]
* Post-scratch troll society is extremely different from the pre-scratch version, but post and pre scratch Earth are almost exactly the same[[note]]The Condesce's interference nonwithstanding, as she was completely independent of the Scratch.[[/note]]. Most people attribute this to Doc Scratch, but there's another reason - in Alternia[=/=]Beforus, the Ancestors arrive thousands of sweeps before the Players. In the Earth sessions, the difference is 500 years at most.
** Besides, the pre-scratch kids ''already are excellent players''. The only reason their session was doomed was Vriska's interference (aka predestination). Other than that, they've all managed to reach God Tier within 24 hours - of all the trolls it seems that only Vriska did, then Aradia and Gamzee, but only after the end of the game proper; [[OffscreenMomentOfAwesome Dave and Jade bred the perfect frog]] within the same amount of time, while trolls ultimately did not do it properly at all; they initiated the Scratch and then ''all survived''. There was simply no reason to change anything else. [[{{Irony}} Unlike the trolls, they already were good enough]].
* [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005971 On this page, it says that the Handmaid and the Condesce are the last two trolls alive]]. But what happened to God tier Aradia?
** [[NeckSnap The Condesce happened]].
** "The last two trolls alive" almost certainly means the last two trolls in ''that universe''. It's been established that Sgrub is a separate universe from Alternia, and that timelines of separate universes are non-parallel. Comparing chronology between universes is meaningless. Doc Scratch, of all people, would understand this.
*** This also indicates that the fight would take place in the Alternian universe, not Alpha!Human. Helmsman is dead.

* Sopor slime’s name may be derived from the word "sober", given their similar pronounciation and opposite meanings.
** Or the word soporific, which means "tending to induce drowsiness or sleep."
* The scratch is supposed to be like a deal with the devil where the session will be reset with things changed to make the players more ready to play the game. The post scratch troll universe had Doc Scratch making troll society into a violent society to prepare the trolls for Sburb. In the post scratch human universe The Condesce makes life harder for Jane through constant assassination attempt as well as Dirk and Roxy due to her conquering of earth making them more suited to take on the game.
** The assassination attempts likely came from [[FridgeHorror Alpha!Mom and Alpha!Bro]]. A human has the same lifespan as the caste Karkat would have been, so the Condesce would just have to wait a few decades before Jane would die naturally.
*** The Condesce also shows a slight hint of remorse at GameOver!Jane's [[KarmicDeath Just death]].
** The alpha humans were Nobles. Not Heroes. The beta humans are still the Heroes of the alpha session because it's a [[UnwinnableByDesign Void Session]].
* "There Once was a Man from Trolltucket" would be exactly as offensive to its native audience, but for entirely different reasons.
* John is, for the most part, TheHero of the story. Someone who opposes the hero is usually an antagonist. Karkat is, functionally, a counterpart of sorts to John. In the zodiac, what is the sign "opposing" Cancer? ''Capricorn''.
** Can also work on a different level, considering recent events involving the Capricorn Troll and Karkat…
* The song used in [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006386 this animation]], [[{{AwesomeMusic/Homestuck}} apart from being awesome]], actually has in-story significance: as [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006678 a recent update]] reveals, the pre-Scratch versions of the troll Ancestors have managed to avoid [[RetGone fading away along with their doomed timeline]], lingering on to become key figures in the Alpha Session [[TitleDrop Even In Death.]]
* The Signless and the Summoner are analogies to Suffragists and Suffragettes respectively.
* Vriska and Tavros are NotSoDifferent! They both have deep self-esteem issues, they just deal with it in different ways. Vriska hides her insecurity by acting overbearing and lashing out at people; Tavros finds it difficult to assert himself in social situations, and when he tries, [[CrazyJealousGuy goes]] [[EntitledToHaveYou overboard]]. Neither of them know what self-confidence really is, and each can be considered reversals of the other (JerkWithAHeartOfGold-BitchInSheepsClothing).
** Of course they would seem similar to most people. Vriska is a Sociopath, and Tavros has Asperger's Syndrome. Practically the only way to know these are different things is to know someone with one disorder and to actually have the other one yourself.
* When the kids and the trolls arrive in the Alpha universe, the trolls take up the six mythological roles that the kids haven't used. We have: a Mage of Doom, a Bard of Rage, a Thief, a Sylph, a hero of Mind, and a hero of Blood.
* John and Karkat are both considered [[LargeHam hammy]] and [[ValuesDissonance sick]], both for opposite reasons.
** Karkat wields a sickle. His human-equivalent in ranking would be the Untouchable, or if we're using Europe, the Serf. Both can't get jobs outside of farming. John wields a hammer. His latest actions put the alpha timeline back together by removing any impurities in the events.
* I know this may be the wrong area to talk about this, but it needs to be addressed. Many fans know that the trolls follow a 6-6 naming rule. Who else has a similar name pattern? [[TrollingCreator Andrew.]]
* Why does Dad Egbert love baking cakes so much? His mother is Jane Crocker in the Beta session. Jane, as we all know, is the heiress to the Betty Crocker fortune.
* [[http://imreadingthishomestuckthing.tumblr.com/post/21287822418/in-the-beginning-the-light-of-our-hope-was-lost THIS]].
** Nanna died first though.
*** But not before Grandpa left her alone to deal with the Batterwitch while he went on adventures.
* Somewhat Fridge Horror but has anyone ever noticed that the kids' Guardians' eyes are never shown, and the ones that do show them have the same eyes as the ghosts, and their meteors had nothing to absorb the landing like an old lady or a horse? Not to mention the fact that Grandpa Harley's eyes look identical to the dead off-shoot John's even when he's 'alive'. A possible answer is that since Lord English, the only character to ever kill a ghost, has First Guardian Powers, and the kids' Guardians deaths could all be traced to someone with First Guardian powers. (John's grandma from the reckoning which was started by Jack/ Dave's Bro in a fight with Jack/ Rose's mom along with John's dad from Jack interrupting them and Jade's grandpa from a shot that Bec redirected)This begs the question: Is ghost killing a Lord English exclusive, or a First Guardian power?
** And if this is true, then that gives Bro's fight with Jack some fridge logic too. Since Dirk's (B2 Bro) title translates to 'destroyer of souls' and Jaspersprite is half eldritch princess, that would make Bro vs Jack the prince of heart vs the princess of heart.
* One of Jadesprite's many, many problems is that she cannot stop seeing the Green Sun, an experience that is apparently painful. Why don't the other First Guardians have this problem? The other Guardians ''[[EyelessFace don't have eyes]]''.
** In fact, First Guardians are specifically engineered NOT to experience this: the only difference in appearance between Bec, Earth's First Guardian, and Halley, the dog he was cloned from, is a lack of eyes, meaning that the DNA code applied to Halley that gave him the First Guardian powers also removed his eyes.
* While rereading the comic I came across the conversation between Kanaya and Jade. They were talking about the fact they were both Prospit dreamers that awoke rather early in life. Kanaya explains that Doc Scratch showed up one day and she awoke on Prospit very early. Kanaya then remarks Jade was lucky she didn't have an influence like that in her life. BUT being a Doc Scratch was First Guardian and awoke Kanaya's dreamself, it seems plausible that Bec, a First Guardian, might have been responsible for Jade's early awakening.
* The Green Sun has twice the mass of the universe. To create it, two universes had to be destroyed.
* Why is the Green Sun green while its components are red and blue? Because it couldn't be created until both the universes were destroyed. If you take a picture and remove red and blue from it, the only colors remaining will be shades of green.
** Fun Factoid: When one looks at a nebula or a star with just the eye looking into a telescope, it will appear green, because the only spectral lines we can see are oxygen, the green lines. Sun is just another way of saying "star".
* Consider the crowning of Peregrine Mendicant as Queen of Exile Town. It may seem like a simple AwesomeMomentOfCrowning, but if you recall in the past, PM managed to infiltrate the throne room of Derse (the Dark Kingdom) and ''survived'' to complete her task. With the Skaian ChessMotifs in mind, PM was a pawn that made it to the opposite side of the board and got [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_promotion promoted into a queen.]]
** This [[http://starspiritgate.livejournal.com/347090.html fancomic]] spells out just how well PM's adventures fit the 'chess pawn' theme.
*** It also makes sense, because the Medicant is a pawn at the time, which means that she can't do anything to those that are behind her, so the droll when pickpocketing her will succeed no matter what because that's how chess is played.
*** Pawns can only move forward until someone before them comes into a space diagonal to them.
* WV presses the tab key. It unlocks a secret trove of Tab soda. HilarityEnsues. Then he presses the Caps Lock key, and... unlocks a book on etiquette? WHAT ON EARTH DOES A CAPS LOCK KEY HAVE TO DO WITH ETIQ--
** [[LateToThePunchline Ooooooooooooooh!]]
** And when he activates it again the capsule locks.
** The joke is actually a bit simpler than that. WV has been typing in ALL CAPS before hitting the Caps Lock key, so he almost gets a double dose of etiquette.
* A {{Tearjerker}} sort of FridgeBrilliance is [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=002602 this page]]. Learn WV's origins and come back. Yeah. Pretty much everything he does is much HarsherInHindsight.
** More precisely, [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=002608 this page]] has its own [[ColonyDrop depressing significance]].
*** Now I'm sad and angry at the same time because of Hussie's amazing foreshadowing skill...
* In the ending of the Act 5 Flash, PM puts on the ring and is as strong as Bec Noir. She then teleports into the Troll's universe to fight and, hopefully, kill Bec Noir. What's brilliant? It's a postal worker fighting a dog.
* Way back in the beginning, AR's hatred of [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003002 illegal pictography]] and [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003008 illicit amphibian idolatry]] seem to be just because of his personality - but he's a Dersite, so of course he hates any mention of frogs!
* When WV tries opening a can with his teeth in the base, it is shown that his teeth are made for chewing things like plants. He eats a pumpkin, a plant, some... Uranium? Green Chalk? Why would he do that? Simple: Both are green, just like plants! That is also why he eats the pages of the book-paper is made out of plant matter.
* PM and [[FanNickname Bec Noir]] are ''dogfighting''.
* When the Wayward Vagabond drew the planets of his session on the wall of the capsule, he was ''[[LiteralMetaphor literally]]'' [[PaintingTheMedium Painting The]] [[IncrediblyLamePun Medium]]!
* How did PM override Bec's loyalty in [S]: Collide? ''She didn't''. Instead, she [[LoopholeAbuse found a way to use it as an advantage]]: Bec's objective is to keep Jade safe. In knocking Jade out (itself fridge brilliance, as she could easily have just killed her but didn't because her Bec self wouldn't allow it) and attacking someone she knows is a threat, she ''was'' trying to protect her, or at least could rationalize it that way.
* When "Di" Strider MST's Jane's book, he puts a note next to the name "Anna" and says that it would be a good name for Jane. Who was Jane known as before the scratch? Nanna!
** Specifically, the name was Anna *Harley*
* Dirk Strider's new fetch modus requires that the items in a column has to rhyme. It's also filled with different types of orange soda. The word "orange" is also infamous for being unrhymeable. Given the obsession for irony that both Striders share, there is no way that wasn't intentional.
* "XY" is chromosomic because X and Y are chromosomes.
* "RK" is diluvial (pertaining to floods) because it's the last two letters of [[TheArk Ark]]. It's obvious in hindsight, but it's not something that's easy to figure out.
** Which ties in with the fact that majority of Dirk's apartment is submerged, and that he's a lone vestige of life in a flooded world, just like the Ark was.
* Why is G Cat not loyal to any one member of the Alpha Session? Sure, G Cat is... well, a cat. But also because the Alpha Session ''lacks a Space player.''
** And on that note, the Beta kid's terrible prototyping combo made their session unwinnable. The reason why? Bec threw himself into it just to protect Jade. GCAT most likely never will or would.
*** In fact, GCAT would probably be Dog Tier Jade's natural enemy same as Jaspersprite.
* Nanna Egbert and Grandpa Harley both lived and died years before the events of Act 1, when Beta!Mom and Beta!Bro are still alive. ''Jane and Jake live years before Roxy and Dirk.''

* Calliope tells us that the two obligatory aspects in a SBURB session are Space and Time; all others are nifty but optional. [S] Dirk: Synchronize and [S] Dirk: Unite prove exactly HOW essential those aspects are to a successful game session. The (Void Session, Post-Scratch) B2 game lacks native Space and Time players. It takes Dirk one ThanatosGambit, one rocketboard, two robot helpers, two corpsesmooches, three non-linear space/time transportation devices, and three or four [[CrowningMomentofAwesome crowning moments of awesome]]...all to solve a displacement problem Jade and Dave could have fixed with almost no effort.
* The ShipTease with Alpha!Lalonde and Jane's dad can be attributed to Beta!Lalonde and John's dad being in a relationship as well.
* Jake just accidentally killed a fairybull. He feels just awful. [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004952 Does this]] [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004953 remind you]] [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004954 of anything]][[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004955 ???]]
* It should've been obvious that the letter in the mailbox was a trap, since it's taking place on 11/11, Veteran's Day. ''Mail isn't delivered on Veteran's Day''.
* A long way back Dave had [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004727 this]] conversation with Equius, implying that Bro's training had made him too powerful to properly wield a normal sword, causing them to break under the stress. Now, [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006418 what is the only weapon Dirk/Bro has ever used?]]
** Even better is what happens to both their weapons by the end of the series. Dave ultimately ends up with another Caledscrath that he never gets around to breaking, whereas, as of [S] Collide, Dirk's "unbreakable" katana gets shattered. A fitting end to the Irony Masters' weapons.
* When Jade asks her magic 8-ball if it's John's birthday, she takes its answer of "not exactly" as a reminder of what a cheap piece of garbage it is. Looking back at this page after learning about ectobiology, we realize its prediction was as wrong as it could be; it is EXACTLY John's birthday (as opposed to the mere anniversary of his birthday).
** You can't forget that it's also a tongue-in-cheek joke about the date in the story compared to the date the update happens on. For the majority of the story, it has always been April 13, 2009. So, it's his birthday, but also, kind of not.
** There's also the fact that the Incipisphere is described as a place untouched by the flow of time in the kids' universe and as a Timeless Expanse. It's because of this that Grandpa Harley's exploits in the Medium are possible.
* Recent updates are a call back to Jade's fantasy of being a wolf, only now told from WV's perspective, and in the form of Serenity's flash speak. Remembering the final line makes me worry for Serenity.
** Or Vriska, which is more likely since she actually is described specifically as a weird bug. Scratch did say she wouldn't live to see the silver lining.
** And its in morse code.
* Terezi [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003424 specifically states]] that it is the job of the Exiles to repopulate the player's planets after the Reckoning. This appears to have happened successfully on Alternia, with Spades Slick and the Midnight Crew having "made this town what it is" despite it being "nothin' but a bunch of dust and rocks" beforehand. On Earth, however, three of its five Exiles have been brutally murdered and the survivors are off-planet seeking revenge (or building more towns out of tinned food products). This means that, failing a biologically viable group of sentient beings landing on Earth, either through accident or design, ''our home planet will never be repopulated.'' Goddamnit, Hussie.
** Not only will Earth not be repopulated, but the universe has come to an end!
*** Our universe had cancer anyway. It was screwed out of the Forge.
** When the WQ had her landing on earth revealed it showed that she had brought several of her people with her so they may have lived through the entire ordeal, after all the WQ, WV, PM, and AR all survived without much in however long they had been on Earth.
* Draconian Dignitary got the jump on Dave on twice. In Act 5, Dave finally returns the favor.
* John is wearing a spade shirt when Karkat discovers him. Dave is wearing a heart shirt/bib when Terezi discovers ''him''.
* At one point, Dave finds a disturbing comic on his Bro's computer, where Rolf somehow kills Animal. What makes it especially disturbing is that they're ''WesternAnimation/MuppetBabies''. So, why use their Muppet baby selves and not their regular Muppet selves? Well, anyone who watched that cartoon growing up might remember the theme song, specifically these lines:
-->When the world looks kind of weird and you wish that you weren't there,
-->Just close your eyes and make believe, and you can be anywhere!
** What happens with the SBURB/SGRUB players? Their homes are transported to weird worlds, and when they fall asleep, they wind up somewhere else.
** I dunno if this is appropriate, but: [[http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?24118-Cheerfulbear-PLAY-ME WAY NSFW]] (just delete this addition if it doesn't belong, but it is the source of that comic Dave found)
* In Seer: Descend, most of the books you read on the shelves were non-sense. However there were one that now made sense. It was a book on a theory that with some adjustments, the Queen's Ring of Orbs fourfold could be modified to add more orbs to it, to which is immediately dismissed by Rose as nonsense. This is, however, instead an instance of DevelopersForesight now that Act 6 is in the post scratched session.
** Or it refers to the trolls' session and their 12-orb rings.
*** I always thought the rings of each session always are supposed to have as many orbs as there are predestined prototypings to happen/have always happened (weird time shit and Skaia's interference is to be thanked/blamed for that), which only leaves the post-scratch session?
* [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006716 Andrew's death scene]] seemingly exists only for only one purpose: to bring closure to a Formspring RunningGag about him marrying Vriska, which subscribers to the [[DeathOfTheAuthor DOTA philosophy]] will likely ''never bother to find out about.''
* Thinking too much about cyclical timelines and Skaian visions brings up serious questions of whether there's any sort of free will at all in the game.
** Free will does exist, it is just that the characters have knowledge of the future that ends up motivating them to do the acts that appear inevitable. See Vriska's need to involve herself in Bec Noir's creation: she sees John inexplicably fall asleep at his computer when about to prototype the doll, and decides to involve herself by putting him to sleep herself. The fact that she has used her powers to interfere with the kids' timeline feeds back into her own timeline, creating the events that entice her in the past.
* When Aradia found Li'l Cal, Dad's wallet modus was within...with some blood on it, and seeing as how in the present timeline is is currently held by John...
** Maybe Dad had a backup wallet, like a sensible person.
* [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005981 This update]] is a CallBack to [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004048 that update.]] Following that snap, [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004049 Sollux falls asleep.]] Now, [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005981 this]] [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/sbahj.php?s=6&p=005982 update]] uploaded about 2 to 3 in the morning, could signify [[NowILayMeDownToSleep time for the Homestuck audience to go to sleep due to being up too late,]] or attempt an ArchiveBinge [[FridgeHorror in the new Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff CSS]] [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/sbahj.php?viewlog=6 from the beginning.]]
* [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005770 This page]] shows four of the kiss-ressurections in the comic so far. The titles match. On one hand, we have the ''Seer'' of Mind kissing the Page of ''Breath'', while the Heir of ''Breath'' kisses the ''Seer'' of Light. On the other, we have the ''Knight'' of Blood kissing the Sylph of ''Space'', while the Witch of ''Space'' kisses the ''Knight'' of Time.
* So we're told that no matter what players may do, the Light Kingdom will ALWAYS fall and the Dark Kingdom will ALWAYS initiate the Reckoning... but why? Because if the players were ever to ''avoid'' the Reckoning, their paradox clones can't go to their home planet to become them -- a paradox which would naturally lead to a [[FateWorseThanDeath doomed]] [[TimeCrash timeline.]]
* Something's been bugging me about how Andrew Hussie seems so familiar, what with his habit of being playful, MoodWhiplash, FanDisservice and [[{{Jossed}} Jossing]]--holy crap he's the webcomics equivalent of Creator/HideoKojima!
* Many aspects of the comic, such as {{Stable Time Loop}}s, RPG elements, and four chosen heroes, can be seen as an elaborate parody of VideoGame/FinalFantasyI.
* The timing of the latest albums, [[http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/album/the-wanderers The Wanderers]] and [[http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/album/sburb Sburb,]] could fit here. Consider the Wanderers album released in July [[ScheduleSlip as possibly the one meant for June,]] and its theme around the Exiles CrossingTheDesert in a HeatWave. Either way, the album works well as music for the hot months of summertime! AND, the Sburb album is a collection of piano music that could fit well detailing the beginning to ending of the players' conflict in Sburb. If this was meant as the official July release, it could work well as AwesomeMusic played along with a fireworks display in celebrating the Fourth of July!
* Another possible link between Jade, the Witch of Space, and Jake, the Page of Hope: Spes is the goddess of hope.
* Doc Scratch [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005527 says]], "I am an immortal entity with a large cue ball for a head, and no biological means of reproduction." That means Cal isn't anatomically correct.
** What does it imply that you believed otherwise until you read that?
*** Remember Bro's ''other'' puppets?
* Lord English and all his affiliates are [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green green]], according to Wiki/ThatOtherWiki a number of artists and poets associate that color with TheDevil.
* Consider this quote from Doc Scratch for a second, "Each dark pocket, in time, will be filled." Depending on how this is pronounced, this could either be [[TheChessmaster referring to how Scratch uses the kids/trolls to achieve his own agenda]] or [[TheOmniscient a prophecy of the Scratch fixing everything up in the two sessions]]
** Also there are 12 trolls + 4 kids = 16 (the number of pieces in a chess set). The prior may apply here.
*** The trolls and kids as one side of a chess board actually makes a lot of sense. You have two Heirs as the King and Queen, and Knights as the Knights, obviously. The Witches have been acting a lot like Rooks throughout, doing critical work on the sidelines we never really focus on (Jade corresponds with her penpal, Feferi makes dream bubbles). That leaves the Seers as the Bishops and everyone else as pawns.
*** The game started out as chess, then Jack took over and the rules started to bend closer to cards, eight players working as chess tokens may set the game right again. Probably 4 Derse dreamers and 4 Prospit dreamers, so Sollux really was doomed from the start.
*** It could also support my whole "Doc Scratch is the one who gives the commands" theory: he's the only one who really has the power to control the player but he can't be controlled himself.
*** Three possible readings of the quote: 1. Each dark pocket (in Doc Scratch's knowledge) will eventually be filled. 2. Each dark pocket in the flow of time (all the incomplete time loops) will be filled. or 3. Each dark pocket (of a pool table) will be filled (all billiards-themed characters will die).
*** Snowman must not die - because if the eight-ball is potted prematurely, both players lose!
*** Snowman dies in Cascade. In concurrence with this, the trolls' universe is destroyed.
*** If you remember from [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/cascade.php?s=6&p=6009 [S] Cascade]] (assuming you've seen it), Slick killed all the other members of the Felt, and then Snowman.
*** He didn't kill Clover.
*** Likely why Lord English was able to die; as Slick had sort of joined scratchs side when he killed snowman. Their team pocketed the eight ball prematurely,losing them the game.
*** Correct me if I'm wrong... but aren't there 16 balls on a pool table, as well? If you include the cue ball, that is. It probably means something.
*** Since doc scratch is pool themed, it's also a reference to the fact that in pool you fill the pockets on the table
* The lack of updates for a few days now since [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005702 5/27]] might actually be brilliant. Currently, the audience is witnessing two story perspectives-the main screen where updates are usually posted, and the web site banner on top with Homestuck's narrator-for-now Doc Scratch getting ready for his guest Spades Slick. The last posted update has the guest, with his weapon, bonking the PhysicalGod narrator over his head. Now, how is this action relative to lack of updates? Remember the second half of Act 2 when the audience is introduced to WV, who seemed very hungry and had not eaten for a long time yet had enough energy to wander the Desert Wasteland in search of food and wind up in that chamber? As WV and SS are of the same species, it's possible for Slick to do nothing but bonk Doc's head for a couple of days without rest or food in a feeble attempt to crack his skull. AND Doc might not mind letting Slick do this for two reasons: One-He's a PhysicalGod; days could pass like minutes to him, and Two-Doc's a SmugSuper, he could be ALLOWING Slick to hammer him nonstop with his horsehead club for [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005519 a couple days,]] just to make [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005520 this result]] [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005521 more humiliating]] to Spades Slick. In other words, SS is holding up the narrator Doc Scratch from narration!
* Let's not forget that somebody made a '''[[http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b392/Eyes5/DSC05225.jpg real]]''' Lil Cal. And given that Lil Cal's existence in a given universe means that it will make whatever universe appear in become a living nightmare, it effectively means that, within the context of ''Homestuck'' canon, whoever made it is an UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom [[ApocalypseHow of the highest level]].
* Why is Jake the same shade of green as Lord English? Because Jake learned hope from Grandma English, who demonstrated hope by changing the meaning of English (most likely stealing his color), and Lord English is basing his on two instances of [[HopeSpot false hope]]: Jake, and Calliope.
* Uu is a cherub; according to troll mythology angels are used to usher in the end. This is a double entendre, for a possible origin of Lord English and the narrative end of Homestuck.
* UU and uu have specific shackles that only they can unlock and Calliope wears her brother's on her left leg, meaning uu wears his on his right. Remember how Lord English doesn't have a [[LifeOrLimbDecision right leg]]? Also each has a color spiral above where the chain connects with the wall and Calli has a Lime green spiral while her brother's is "Candy" red since [[WordOfGod he is based on Jigsaw]]. The spiral seems to match the swirls on a cherub's face which may be implying the [[BizarreAlienBiology cherubs]] can change blood color. Lord English has been shown to have red blood and matching cheeks. As an added bonus watch the intermission that showed Lord English and read the opening code considering uu's symbol consists of "U" and "~".
* Alright, so Calliope's dreamself is dead and Caliborn seems to have taken control. No big deal, Roxy knows how to wake her up and her soul's floating around in the Dream Bubbles now. Except Lord English just went into a Dream Bubbles and destroyed everyone there...
* uu/UU's tag represents Uracil replacing the T in DNA. So by logic, TT (TimeusTestified) may be in more danger of being 'replaced' by uu. Remember the conversation Calliope and Dirk had about Prince of Heart translating to 'Destroyer of Souls'? And how Caliborn wants to *destroy* Calliope's *soul*?
** It gets better. Remember how Dirk said that he doubted he'd be destroying any souls unless he became a "cartoonishly evil sorceror"? Soon afterwards, Lord English arrives to destroy a bunch of souls in the dream bubbles. Remember what was in his hand?
* Doubles as Fridge Horror: Calliope and undyingUmbrage make a point behind their universe being dead, or dying at any rate. Kernelsprites are attracted to the doomed and deceased.
* We all know that Lord English was already here. We all know Caliborn is Lord English. We know Caliborn has been searching for Calliope to finish her off. Now take the time to remember the form that she took when she visited Roxy's dream to tell her about the Quest Beds. Caliborn was already here, but so was Calliope.
* Li'l Cal is a juju. Jujus origins are untraceable. We know Li'l Cal exists because of a causality loop which means he exists because he exists. Sort of like a law of physics or even a fundamental flaw in the session/universe. The notion that he would spring from the void even makes sense, if the void refers to Paradox Space, Since Paradox Space is basically fate. The creation of Jujus goes in line with the idea of fundamental flaws in sessions dooming them. It could even be considered a reverse of the gaming abstraction idea in the sense that a few bad lines of code create random glitches in reality. Heck that could even explain all the callbacks to different "games" like Problem Sleuth and Jailbreak; straggling lines of code not properly removed before release.
* Li'l Cal is a Juju that can be used to hypnotize a person who gazes into its eyes. Why does this never happen before Act 6 Act 5 Act 1x2? Because both boys it winds up entrusted with always wore ''shades''.
* The Felt album. Listen to all of the songs, then listen to them in [[http://www.youtube.com/user/Mewchu11 REVERSE]]
** [[LateToThePunchline Care to clue me in?]]
** They're full of [[SubliminalSeduction backmasking]] and samples that have been slowed down or sped up. The album is about a group whose gimmick is ''time manipulation''.
** Also listen to [[http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/time-on-my-side "Time on My Side"]]. Then listen it 4/3 (=> 413) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAWT5y3AeOM faster]] (WARNING: Any love for the original song may fucking pirouette off of a cliff. You have been warned.)
* All of the members of the Midnight Crew correspond to one side of the troll romance, which also has to do with the symbol they represent.
** Why is ''Hearts'' Boxcars such as avid Tavros/Vriska shipper? Because he has a heart fetish!
** Why does ''Spades'' Slick hate everything? Because he represents the "kismesis" side of the romance, visceral hatred.
** Why is ''Diamonds'' Droog always trying to convice Jack NOT to kill everything? He represents "Moirallegiance".
*** Also, 'Droog' is a Russian term for 'friend', which is the closest human approximation we've got for moirallegiance.
*** In addition to that, "droog" is often used in ''Literature/AClockworkOrange'' among a group of teens for their gang members.
** Why does ''Clubs'' Deuce stop the fight between Liv Tyler and WV? Because he acted like a "Auspistice" between those two.
* After Jack becomes the Sovereign Slayer, he's referred to as an Ace to fit with the poker-card theme. In Blackjack, an Ace and a Jack beats a King and a Queen.
** He could always beat them. A [[IncrediblyLamePun Blackjack]] beats every other hand.
* Why does Jack become a Spade? It may have something to do with his friendly yet hate-filled relationship with Karkat (and EVERYONE). Although Karkat does not feel the same way.
** I think it's more that during his time as Jack, he's playing up his difference from the chess motif by referencing a blackjack motif (Jack NOIR= Jack Black= Blackjack), whereas by the time he's Spades Slick, he's just one of the suites forming the midnight crew. His chance to be the Ace had come and gone.
* Most likely, when you saw [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005449 this page]] you thought to yourself, "Wow, what an out of character thing for an omnicidal maniac to do." But, when he put on the ring, he prototyped himself with all the first tier sprites, specifically John's Harlequin. So, he did it because he's part clown.
** "Wow, what an out of character thing for an omnicidal maniac to do." I thought that it had [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003065 already]][[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003203 been established]] that Jack is a bit of a CloudCuckoolander?
* In the past, Bec Noir has tried to teleport to wherever John and Dave are and kill them. In a way, he succeeded. Recently, it's revealed that he also tried to kill Jade by this method, but couldn't bring himself to do so. So what about Rose? We haven't heard from her in a while...
** Except that we know that [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005201 she's still alive when the Rift happens]].
*** Actually no, we most certainly do not know that. Her timeline and her timeline alone specifically goes black long before anyone else's does and no one can explain why.
*** The reason Rose's screen goes black is because she pretty much just went grimdark. Vriska said that she couldn't see John when he flew into the Blackout, which is the same reason Kanaya can't see her. It's too dark in there.
*** A way of interpreting this last thing is that if the time windows can't see Rose, neither can Noir.
*** Well, from [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004637 this page]] we know that Rose is still alive at some point in the future, and from what Dave says it sounds like it's pretty close to the full 24 hours. But we don't know exactly how the timeline aligns.
* Spades Slick hates clocks and all matter of things to do with time. Who ends up stopping his counterpart Bec Noir in his tracks? The Maid of Time.
* When confronted by a prototyped PM following Cascade, Jack immediately falls in love. Although he has been shown to respect her, this is never even hinted at before now. What changed? Why, [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003179 her species.]]
* Spades Slick's obsession with [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005523 scottie dogs]] is HilariousInHindsight considering his counterpart Jack Noir's final form once Bec is prototyped.
* According to Hussie, the Midnight Crew Intermission was supposed to allow the readers insight into the mind of the comic's main villain, initially revealed to be the Beta Session's Jack Noir. With Lord English being played up as the True Final Boss and a more major villain overall in Act 6, the above statement began to seem like a red herring... and then [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/ACT6ACT5ACT1x2COMBO.php?s=6&p=007721 THIS]] happened. If that update means Lord English is actually : Jack Noir possessed by Caliborn's soul, rather than an older Caliborn himself, Jack Noir may end up being the main villain of the story two times over, and Hussie's statement is still truth. Even if not, hey, Jack's still gonna be a major player from the looks of it, so that's probably gonna be good enough.
** Also, this was the first time Lord English was mentioned in the comic.
* Bec Noir only seems to be concerned with killing. He's kind of a one-dimensional character, isn't he? Maybe that's because he's only 4-dimensional, to his counterpart's 12.
** That idea falls apart when you realize that counterpart was never prototyped. Spades Slick was exiled before he could get the Queen's Ring.
* The conversations the kids and trolls have with each other are shown exactly, because they're typed - the logs are automatically created. The Midnight Crew's speech is paraphrased in the frame captions because they're communicating via radio, and no exact record is made.
* Crowbar is the only member of the Felt who can keep all 15 of them together. His hat is shaped like a triangle.
* I never understood why God Tier people got those lame hoods...Then I realized, they were attaining a literal [[StealthPun godhood]]!
* Andrew has stated that Derse represents Destruction. Ironic then, that two Dersite Dream Selves and Derse's moon help ''create'' the Green Sun. Or maybe not, because two universes are destroyed by beings empowered by the Green Sun (the first universe Bec Noir destroys directly, the second universe Doc Scratch destroys by proxy - with Spades Slick firing a bullet that's probably ALSO Green Sun empowered.)
** Probably more relevant is the fact that Alternia/Beforus's pink MOONS, as there are two of them, one larger more visible and a smaller one orbiting the first, ostensibly resemble another planet of similar coloration (Hint: It's Derse)
** It is possible that Derse represents creation through destruction; the death of their king and queen creates a new universe. Therefore, Prospit would be destruction through creation; Jade's current form may reflect as much, as does John's task of locating the Tumor. The second part is the weak link, I will admit, but the former matches wonderfully.
* Eveyone's IM handle is initialed with an A, C, G or T - like in DNA.
** The Calliope and her brother's IM handles are UU and uu, respectively. U replaces T when DNA gets transcribed into RNA. RNA only has a single strand, while DNA has a double strand
** The name of the Alpha timeline's Bec counterpart? GCAT.
** The whole DNA letter theme-naming becomes even more significant when you realize the idea behind Sburb is to create new universes. DNA is the basic code for life, so ''of course'' they're in all the chumhandles!
* Why can the "player" hop from character to character at a whim in the main story? In chess, you can move any piece with somewhere to go. Why does the perspective change randomly in the Midnight Crew Intermission? In cards, you can only play the hand you're dealt.
* I was impressed with the versatility of the word "scratch" and all the relevance to story in some way.
** 1. It refers to the billiard term, "Scratch" or to put the Cue Ball in a pocket. It makes an apt name for certain Cue Ball themed villain. Plus in billiards when a Player scratches, they lose their turn and the next player begins their turn. This is similar to how when a scratch is preformed in the troll world the Players and Ancestors switched roles. The Ancestors scratched and lost their turn, now it the other Players' turn.
** 2. It refers to the action of "scratching" a record, which is moving the needle across portions of a record to make an odd sound. Interestingly, doing so moves to a different part of the record which is kind of like moving through time.
** 3. It refers to scratching a CD. Scratches on the surface can cause a number of misreads and various other problems. In a way, a scratch on a CD is like cancer to the CD. Sometimes its fatal and sometimes a doctor can cure it. The trolls screwed up the kids' session is similar to how Terezi scratched the game disk.
** 4. It refers to "starting over from scratch". "Starting over from scratch" is a phrase used to describe having to start over with absolutely nothing. Where "starting over from square one" means going back to the beginning in the same condition you are now, "starting over from scratch" refers to something even more extreme. To use a board game as an example, "square one" would mean you get sent back to the start square. However, "from scratch" means you would need to start a whole new game. This parallels the fact that once the Scratch happens, the current players aren't sent back to the start of their journey in order to try again. A whole new game session begins with new players.
** 5. It can also refer to "making from scratch". This is a phrase used to describe building, making, or creating something without using any part that is already partially done. This phrase is used in cooking or baking. If you were baking cookies, you could buy all the ingredients needed and make them from start to finish and bake the cookies from scratch or you could buy a package of Betty Crocker's Cookie Dough and use that as a starting point as several of the ingredients are already mixed together and half the work is done for you.
** 6. Scratching Out. A term that used to mean deletion or removal of something from something else. IE Scratching an item of a list.
* With the revelation that The Scratch is a hard reset of REALITY and that if the kids want to survive they need to jump ship to another universe (like, say, the Troll Session). The fact that Bec Noir arrived in the Troll Session with an arm covered in blood can inspire this. (since the Trolls and Kids are implied in the first conversation of the act to come up with a plan to do exactly this, they'd all be in one place...)
** It's scarier if you assume they do somehow make it. So they're in the trolls' session, possibly searching the veil for the right meteor that their friends are on. Do they find it? Well, Gamzee had to get a hold of Zillyhoo somehow, right?
** Considering the EOA5, the original comment here saying "if the kids want to survive they need to jump ship to another universe" is brilliance itself...
* Recent updates reveal that Betty Crocker wasn't human. However, it should ''already'' be known that she was [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_Crocker never a real person to begin with.]]'
* How does one get rid of glitches in a game cartridge? [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=008258 By blowing on it.]]
* Back in the beginning of Act 6, en route to the Alpha session, Rose says the plan is to make the "void" Alpha session viable by replacing its core, Skaia's Battlefield, with the one Jade stole from the Beta session. Long story short, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somatic-cell_nuclear_transfer this is how cloning works]].
* According to WordOfGod, all of the ships are canon. Just Hussie being a trolling creator, right? WRONG! Homestuck encompasses many different universes and timelines, meaning that given the Many Worlds Interpretation, all pairing combinations could indeed be canon in at least one of them.
** Alternatively, Lord English has taken control of the narrative from Hussie, who has less control and insight about the story, as implied by him not knowing that Slick’s red eye is cybernetic [[https://medium.com/@RoseOfNobility/et-tu-hussie-on-spades-slick-bec-noir-eb3f310df974]].
* Remember that update on Andrew's Formspring where [[http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/40585720/Combined_Formspring_Web_Aug-28-2011.htm#mspadventures197489823865410924 he tried CS5 before returning to CS3?]] Know how he mentions having "a ton of pertinent files open all the time so I don't have to spend as much time rooting around for stuff?" [[http://mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005715 These]] [[http://mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005716 spoiler-ish]] [[http://mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005717 updates]] may be a Meta example of one way the story unfolds-[[YouShouldKnowThisAlready mining past images]] for [[CaptainObvious use later in present updates,]] with these updates a CallBack of a past TearJerker concerning Karkat and Terezi.]]
** Regarding the above mentioned eventual callback, the other Seer and Knight are equally likely to recreate this scene. Look how easily those pictures can be edited, Terezi's shades could easily replaced by Dave's pair.
** Finally, Andrew may have commented on [[http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/40585720/Combined_Formspring_Web_Aug-28-2011.htm#mspadventures192553069316180507 his real life delay for a few days]] [[http://mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005688 here,]] affecting the suddenly succintly slow pace of the story.
* Some of the songs in [[http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/album/homestuck-vol-8 Vol. 8]] have a DoubleMeaningTitle.
** [[http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/drift-into-the-sun Drift into the Sun]] refers to Rose and Dave undergoing their suicide mission to explode the Green Sun, using Derse’s moon as a vehicle. Alternatively, a drift, [[http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/drift?show=0&t=1320008079 defined as a mass of matter,]] in this case Derse’s moon, is turned “into the sun” thanks to the Tumor.
** The bonus song, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6e2XacZSIs Black Hole/Green Sun,]] refers to the Tumor's detonation as a black hole and supernova into the Green Sun. However, at the end of [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/cascade.php?s=6&p=6009 [S] Cascade,]] when the song ends, Jade, John, the planets, and her cruiser plow through the Fourth Wall, leaving a black hole behind as their point of entry and escape.
* There are 4 Sburb players in each session, and each of their names has four letters. The troll were initially going to have two teams of six players, and they all have two six letter names.
* How many people here knew that a becquerel is a unit of ''radiation'' before reading Homestuck?
** Or that Irradiated Steak is a product you can actually buy?
*** Or that Irradiated Salisbury Steak is a health item you can obtain in VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas?
*** The tagline for that trope is alarmingly apt: "From where you're kneeling, it must seem like an 18-carat run of bad luck. But the truth is... the game was rigged from the start.". When you consider other elements of play within that game as listed on the trope page, such as gambling/Casino, Dog and God (!), A courier (!), and the list goes on...
*** FridgeHorror: Radiation causes cancer. Or in this case, [[ILoveNuclearPower gives it god-like powers]].
* Close to Valentine's Day 2011, we have [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005400 two characters]] [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005401 on]] [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005402 a]] [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005403 date]], AND [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005407 a steamy fanfic]] from one of the troll's ancestors. [[WebVideo/BadMovieBeatdown OMFG, COINCIDENCE.]]
** Now, near St. Patrick's Day, we have the Felt being revealed as being from a race of Leprechauns. Hussie is damn good at this.
** The last update for the year 2010 was "Lab: Drop". The lab in question is a giant ball situated on a thin spire. Happy new years, everybody.
*** And then come the beginning of 2012, [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006312 it]] [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006313 happened]] [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006314 again.]]
* Look at brainwashed God Tier Jane and Grimbark Jade side-by-side. A girl with a red hood and a big, bad wolf... remind you of anything?
** ''And they were both Grandma.''
* The Beforus troll session was screwed from the beginning because their session contained no ectobiological lab, meaning that the only way for them to come into existence was for them to have come from the other side of a Scratch. But the same is also true of the Alternian troll session and the Pre-Scratch human session. Both of those contained Doc Scratch, one of whose components is Arquiusprite. And since Arquiusprite was created in the Post-Scratch human session, things would inevitably conspire to force the humans to scratch their session.
* Davepeta is a combination of a Rogue of Heart and a Knight of Time. The Heart Aspect gives the ability to connect with people, and also relates the soul to a heart motif. The Time Aspect allows you to reverse time to fix your mistakes with knowledge from doomed timelines, including reversing death. Knights also weaponize their aspect to benefit themselves. And with that, the {{Undertale}} shout out makes perfect sense.
** Additionally, remember what happens if you complete a Genocide run in Undertale? You have to face an incredibly difficult boss, and even if you win you [[spoiler:render any future non-Genocide runs completely unwinnable.]] Guess what Caliborn did.
* There's some incredible similarities between Aradia and Dave. Both had an interest in old dead things. Both type in red without capitals or punctuation. Both are heroes of Time. Both have a subdued personality due to the violent actions of somebody close to them.
** Death is an effect of the passing of time.
* Both the A2 and B1 universes are destroyed because of the actions of Jack Noir/Spades Slick and the Black Queen/Snowman. Jack Noir is depicted as an ace. The Black Queen is depicted as an 8 ball. The name of a hand with two black aces and two black eights in poker is the "Dead Man's Hand".
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* It would only make sense for the heroes of Hope and Doom to be rivals.
** And that the hero of Doom would both hate and pity/love the hero of Rage. He sees Rage as sensible, but hates that it's the sensible thing to do.



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* It would only make sense for the heroes of Hope and Doom to be rivals.
** And that the hero of Doom would both hate and pity/love the hero of Rage. He sees Rage as sensible, but hates that it's the sensible thing to do.



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* Recent updates with Vriska looking over her ancestor's journal have [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005644 shown]] [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005658 some]] [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005659 skipping.]] FridgeHorror assumes its due the Scratch descending, due to [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005630 Terezi]] [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005631 scratching]] [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005632 Disc 2 of Homestuck,]] where [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005643 the story is right now.]] However, [[OccamsRazor the simpler explanation]] might be Vriska [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005428 seeing]] [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005541 without]] [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005645 glasses]] as she views the journal, leading to [[BlindWithoutEm blurry]] [[DroppedGlasses vision]] in certain updates. The audience IS reading a Diary OverTheShoulder of Vriska for this ExpositionBreak.
** Nope, FridgeHorror. [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005660 [S]Flip]] shows us that it is very glitchy, not even from Vriska's POV.



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* Some FridgeHorror: Why is Sober!Gamzee such a LoveMartyr for Lord English even though the latter [[MoreDakka pumps his guts with lead]] and regularly abuses him? WordOfGod said that the ''real'' Mirthful Messiahs were actually Doc Scratch and Lord English; Gamzee's clinging to the last shred of his faith there is!



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* A fan thoery that came from [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005407 Mindfang's diary]] was that the "slave girl" Mindfang summons was Kanaya's ancestor. According to [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005959 this page]] The Dolorosa (Kanaya's ancestor) was sold into slavery.
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* The people trying to assassinate [[TheUnfettered Jane]] could possibly be B2 [[TheSmartGuy Rose]] [[LaResistance and]] [[JerkassFacade Dave]], attempting to kill The Condesce's heiress without realizing she's unaware of The Condesce's true nature. While that's not FridgeHorror enough, Roxy - Rose's ectobiological mother - almost kills Jane herself by causing her computer to explode.



* Why did little Dave wear a heart bib? Because [[FridgeHorror BRO MADE IT FROM MAPLEHOOF'S HIDE]]
*** The Post-Scratch counterpart to Bro, the one who made the bib and presumably bought Dave's heart shirt, is a Hero of Heart.



* Isn't it nice that all the characters we knew and loved are at least guaranteed a reasonably nice afterlife? And it's secure as long as the Horrorterrors are around to provide the bubbles. The same Horrorterrors who were last seen asking for rescue. You may panic now.
** On the subject of the Horrorterrors needing rescue, Rose, Dave and the surviving trolls are on the trolls' meteor base in the Furthest Ring traveling at nearly light speed, with Jack Noir in pursuit. Jack's at it again.
** Now we know precisely why they are asking for rescue... and that the afterlife is not so secure as we thought. [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=007161 AND HE IS ALREADY HERE.]]
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* At the beginning of Act 1, [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=001901 John lacks a pair of arms,]] and you, the player, [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=001905 command him to retrieve arms from his chest.]] Out of sympathy for his lack of arms, [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=001906 you move the cake off his magic chest using your mouse, signified with the hand icon moving the cake.]] However, [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=001907 retrieving his arms reveal John holding his FAKE arms with his REAL arms.]] Now, say as a player, you never played this game called Webcomic/{{HomeStuck}}, and never issued commands to retrieve his arms. [[FridgeHorror Would he be forever armless without your command?]] No, he always possessed arms; it's the character design that makes John look armless. The FridgeBrilliance arrives though when you realize the hand icon that represents the mouse could also represent his pair of hands moving the cake onto the bed. Compare that to the FridgeHorror of being John and witnessing a cake fly off your chest after hearing voices recently command you to retrieve your arms...shudder.
** There's also a bit of FridgeLogic in place, as you later find the Exiles can only type—there's no mouse on WV's terminal.
*** Mouse Keys.
** Also, you could say his arms were on the chest. They were attached to his chest all along, even if they weren't visible.



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* At the beginning of Act 1, [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=001901 John lacks a pair of arms,]] and you, the player, [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=001905 command him to retrieve arms from his chest.]] Out of sympathy for his lack of arms, [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=001906 you move the cake off his magic chest using your mouse, signified with the hand icon moving the cake.]] However, [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=001907 retrieving his arms reveal John holding his FAKE arms with his REAL arms.]] Now, say as a player, you never played this game called Webcomic/{{HomeStuck}}, and never issued commands to retrieve his arms. [[FridgeHorror Would he be forever armless without your command?]] No, he always possessed arms; it's the character design that makes John look armless. The FridgeBrilliance arrives though when you realize the hand icon that represents the mouse could also represent his pair of hands moving the cake onto the bed. Compare that to the FridgeHorror of being John and witnessing a cake fly off your chest after hearing voices recently command you to retrieve your arms...shudder.
** There's also a bit of FridgeLogic in place, as you later find the Exiles can only type—there's no mouse on WV's terminal.
*** Mouse Keys.
** Also, you could say his arms were on the chest. They were attached to his chest all along, even if they weren't visible.


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** Alternatively, Lord English has taken control of the narrative from Hussie, who has less control and insight about the story, as implied by him not knowing that Slick’s red eye is cybernetic [[https://medium.com/@RoseOfNobility/et-tu-hussie-on-spades-slick-bec-noir-eb3f310df974]].


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** Death is an effect of the passing of time.
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* Something's been bugging me about how Andrew Hussie seems so familiar, what with his habit of being playful, MoodWhiplash, FanDisservice and [[{{Jossed}} Jossing]]--holy crap he's the webcomics equivalent of HideoKojima!

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