- Adaptation-Induced Plot Hole: The introduction of Nia Nal, a trans woman who is the direct ancestor of Dream-Girl. See the problem there.
I'm not sure that's a good example, as a) even now trans people do often have children (we're not told specifics in regards to Nia's capacity, i.e. whether she's had SRS or not, but preserving ova or sperm before SRS is also something some choose to), b) we're dealing with a setting that has magic probably capable of facilitating this as well and c) some medical breakthrough might well be possible in their world (or even for real life) which could also work (say an artificial uterus or even growing a biological one).
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Pulled this one:
- Anachronism Stew: When Jeremiah returns in Season 2, he comments that the last time Alex and Kara set the table was when their phones were taken away. The last time he would have seen them in a domestic setting would be no later than about 2003, when cell phones weren't very common outside of business usage, and most certainly not would have been the omnipresent distracting toy for the preteen Danvers that they are now.
This seemed unlikely to me, because I'm very far from an early adopter, and I got my first mobile phone in the late 90s (for comparision, I got my first smartphone in 2014 ... and learned how to actually use it in 2015). So I ran a search and found this article
from 2005, which says that 1/3 of US 11-16 yr olds had a phone in 2003, and it had grown to 2/3 by that year. So I don't think it's without the bounds of plausibility.
Unless the scene specifically refers to cell phones, don't assume that it does. Especially in the pre-cell era, many families allowed their children land-line extensions, either one per child's room or a central extension dedicated to the kids. You can see this in media dating back to the 50s and 60s.
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No one ever took a phone away unless it was a cell phone. Yes, there were extension phones or party lines in the 70's and 80's, but nobody went into their room and unplugged the phone from the wall and confiscated it except in the most extreme of situations.
As for if Kara and Alex had cell phones, I suppose it is possible. I doubt that texting was as common then as it is now. Maybe they were calling their friends all the time? I don't know. I think this is in that nebulous area where it can be forgiven a little.
As someone who lived through the 70s and 80s, you're simply not right about that, Rognik.
Moble phones where quite common place in the late 1990's I my first one about 2001. I was a strange person. My parents ordered me to carry one so they could keep up with me. It wasn't a cell phone it was an electric leash.
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Is Kara hugging James really a What the hell hero moment? I thought that a What the hell hero moment is doing something wrong. If they where kissing or anything more then just hugging I would concur as something wrong. Wynn reaction also seems more personal about his hurt feelings then something Kara did wrong. What the hell hero? Doing something unheroic or heinous, would not apply in this case. Especially when the person calling them out seems to be calling them out for personally hurting their feelings instead of the heroes actions.
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I think it was just his feelings for Kara, but him not willing to admit it.
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Yeah , I am considering removing it but wanted to double check. I generally thought that WTHH? usually counted when the Good Guy did something unheroic or heinous. I really don't believe getting a comforting hug from another counts. Especially when the source of the speech is using it as a justification of hurt feelings rather then a honest critique of the heroes actions.
Now her pulling a tanker by a bad angle (even if you have super strength), and causing an oil leak, would count as that trope.
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I'd say it qualifies. Even if what she's doing isn't really wrong from an objective POV, they key part is In-Universe the Hero is being chewed out for their actions. Which seems to be the case here
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A what the hell moment is defined when the hero is called out for an unheroic or henious act. What Kara did does not fit in either category . It was a comforting hug nothing more. It it was much more then that then Wynn would have a leg to stand on. His reaction was more about him then Kara. A perceived slight does not justify a WTHH speech espeically when the hero did nothing wrong.
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By definition When characters In-Universe call out one of the heroes for doing something clearly unheroic, if not outright heinous. In this case it clearly does not apply. It was put back after being removed as it doesn't have to be justified. It doesn't say that on the definition. On the definition it says does something unheroic or heinous. A hug does not apply to that. It does not justify Wynn speech or reaction because he had no reason to call out the hero.
Is it possible that Easily-Overheard Conversation is subverted due to all of the "secret conversations" that are held (such as the one in S 1 E 4 "Livewire") in extremely public places that include direct statements about the main character's dual identity?
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That would just be Publicly Discussing the Secret.
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is splitting this page up by season a good idea, it seems like it's done really half-assed and the ymmv page is a mess