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Czigot Since: Aug, 2015
Apr 14th 2023 at 11:23:35 PM •••

This trope seems kinda... old-fashioned.

kkj12345 General Since: May, 2021
Fireblood Since: Jan, 2001
Sep 18th 2021 at 7:24:02 AM •••

No, read the description. It can be any combination of minority groups. Being biracial would be just one example, when combined with another.

Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.-Philip K. Dick
Nukeli The Master Of Fright & A Demon Of Light Since: Aug, 2018
The Master Of Fright & A Demon Of Light
Jun 16th 2021 at 11:00:20 AM •••

How the hell is it "unrealistic" for a POC to be disabled or LGBTQA+ or a woman? Or any other configuration of those?

This trope is just straight-up insane. Seems to exist just to whine about women and minorities.

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Fireblood Since: Jan, 2001
Jun 17th 2021 at 6:38:01 AM •••

The description doesn't say it is unrealistic.

Most examples are hardly whining-they just note fictional characters who fit. If you see an issue though, Trope Repair Shop is available.

Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.-Philip K. Dick
Red-Hood Since: Oct, 2020
May 18th 2021 at 8:03:25 AM •••

I'm pretty new here, is it alright if I white out any zero context examples(not delete them.)

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Fireblood Since: Jan, 2001
May 19th 2021 at 6:52:53 AM •••

Yes.

Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.-Philip K. Dick
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 22nd 2021 at 9:47:21 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: clarify defintion, started by FlyingV on Jan 20th 2011 at 3:31:39 AM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 20th 2021 at 9:01:06 AM •••

Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Not Tropeworthy, started by TheMountainKing on May 19th 2018 at 7:39:23 AM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
lugia1 Since: Jan, 2019
Mar 13th 2020 at 1:57:00 PM •••

About the page picture i don't understand how it's twofer at all

MadeOfAxes Not Literally Me Since: Feb, 2010
Not Literally Me
May 3rd 2017 at 2:17:41 PM •••

This trope is far too broad in its application. Under the current standards, literally any character who is a non-white woman (among many other examples) counts as this trope. Surely this is too broad to have any meaning? It's a description for 'Twofer Minority' (which, I would argue, is not a meaningful trope) and completely ignores the 'Token' aspect of the title.

A better would be to restrict this trope only to instances of Token Minority characters who fit multiple classes of minority, or instances where their status as such is lampshaded.

I also think the use of 'Twofer Token Minority' so broadly has some pretty weird implications, since it implies that any character who is (for example) both black and disabled is reducible to those traits and could exist only for the purposes of tokenism, as if any more than one deviation away from white-heterosexual-able-bodied-male is abnormal and can't just exist without comment.

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Jesthor Since: May, 2013
Jul 26th 2013 at 12:50:18 AM •••

High School Musical: How is a female a minority? About 50% of mankind is female. Quite even, if you ask me.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Jul 26th 2013 at 5:57:33 AM •••

This trope considers female a minority. From the description: "Of course, women are not actually a minority in terms of numbers, but count as such in media because of the long history of their being marginalized."

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MatthewTheRaven Since: Jun, 2009
Aug 15th 2010 at 2:31:09 PM •••

So is this just a collection of nonwhite males heterosexuals now? Wasn't it originally for someone who was both a twofer and the only such person in the cast, such as in a situation where it's an all straight, white cast with one paraplegic Black Hispanic Jewish Lesbian with Tourette's to check all the demographic boxes and make the story artificially diverse? In many cases, such as the House entry, the story gets listed despite having several twofers and a half-minority cast.

One that really sticks out is the first entry under Real Life:

  • The members of freak folk duo Cocorosie definitely qualify as French Jewish lesbians, making them threefers.
o Fourfers. They're Metis.

If both members of Coco Rosie are French-Metis Jewish lesbians, they're 100% of the "cast." They don't really stand out against an all Straight/White/Male "crowd."

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Micah Since: Jan, 2001
Mar 6th 2010 at 10:54:03 PM •••

Stuck here for better sourcing:

  • This troper cannot remember the name of the show, because it was a while ago (90s I think), only that an African-American comedian starred in it. Anyway, the episode had a threefer token minority and is lampshaded as such: "You're a woman, a minority, and you're gay? Girl, you get a leg brace and no one could ever fire you."

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