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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 20th 2021 at 10:26:12 AM •••

Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Unclear Description, started by YaboyGabumon on Oct 4th 2014 at 2:36:42 AM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
GastonRabbit MOD Sounds good on paper (he/him) (General of TV Troops)
DezzMarie95 Since: Aug, 2017
Sep 16th 2020 at 3:13:53 PM •••

Why is this trope being cut??? Name change or something? I'm confused

owlnoelsword96 Since: Oct, 2016
Mar 18th 2019 at 6:42:09 AM •••

As someone else stated in 2015, most of these examples seem to be heavy YMMV. I see a lot of examples that are explicitly explained in the text- like Cheryl which I extrapolated on in my edit reasons- or whose sexuality isn’t “changed,” for example a lot of them are characters who dated the opposite sex (even just having one interest in the opposite sex; like Mulan from OUAT) before having a same sex love interest (again like Mulan from OUAT-the example for her even takes things way out of context, that we see throughout Season Two Mulan grows to care for and as eventually revealed falls in love with Aurora while they’re spending time without Phillip together, the show doesn’t pretend she was originally in love with Aurora, merely that she late fell in love with Aurora)- which seems to be ignoring the fact that bisexuality exists.

DaibhidC Wizzard Since: Jan, 2001
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Jun 10th 2015 at 3:20:36 PM •••

  • The Third Doctor companion Captain Mike Yates in Doctor Who makes objectifying comments about an attractive female Chinese officer in "The Mind of Evil", but hits on the Brigadier at the end of "The Daemons" and is portrayed ever after as being gay, with a string of implicit boyfriends.

That is ... slightly overstating the case, I think. At the end of "The Daemons", Mike asks the Brig if he fancies a dance, but that's clearly a joke (since the Brigadier is both married and Mike's superior officer, he'd be unlikely to hit on him regardless of his sexuality). He had a low-key relationship with Jo Grant (which admittedly is most clearly stated in a story he doesn't appear in; she was getting ready for a date with him when the Doctor dragged her to Peladon).

The idea that Yates was gay seems to have started in fandom and then inevitably found its way into the Expanded Universe; most blatantly in the Virgin New Adventures novel Happy Endings, where he's living with a man called Tom and talks Polari with other gay characters. It's not a bad interpretation of the character Phil Sandifer calls a camp parody of an action hero, but it's not in the original series.

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angelothewizard Since: May, 2013
Oct 14th 2013 at 11:18:13 PM •••

Are we sure that this isn't YMMV territory? The examples given seem so very close to YMMV.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Oct 15th 2013 at 4:14:04 AM •••

Eh, I don't feel so. Might want to take it to Trope Repair Shop if you want.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Icchuchu Since: Dec, 2009
Sep 25th 2010 at 8:00:00 PM •••

The page image just seems like too much fanservice and less on actually having to do with the trope.

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