I don't really see how these two snowclones of Utopia Justifies the Means make sense. That phrase means "What I'm doing may be evil, but it's morally justified because I'm building a better world." Despotism Justifies the Means and Dystopia Justifies the Means are not offering moral "justifications" at all: the former is just "I don't care what's moral, I'm seizing power because I can", the latter is "I want to make the world a worse place; any evil I do in the pursuit of that is of course a step in the right direction."
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They are taking the snowcloned phrase literally.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
How is Darkseid the Trope Codifier? I know about him because some of my friends are comic book nuts (he is the Take Over the World nut compared to galactus Omnicidal Maniac as far as i remember?). But first: he wants to rule everything, the dystopia is just a side effect of him being really nuts. And second: almost everyone knows 1984, as Darkseid is only known to comic book nuts...
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I was wondering, if this trope is "the third, final, and most despicable trope in the unholy trinity of villainous objectives", then what are the other two?
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I'm going to guess For the Evulz and Complete Monster, to form a trinity of unjustifiable Moral Event Horizon.
Other villains mentioned above have an ounce of redeemability: the motivation of Utopia Justifies the Means, even when it leads to Take Over the World or Despotism, is based on well-intentioned reasoning (for example, in Crapsack Worlds, heroes will sometimes end up agreeing about the Well-Intentioned Extremist or Totalitarian Utilitarian's notion that crapsack world needs a renovation), and thus is not completely evil. Omnicidal Mania, believe it or not, can sometimes be motivated by well-intentioned desires (e.g. to euthanize the miserable universe, as in Suicidal Cosmic Temper Tantrum), and thus sometimes can be reasoned. However, the Unholy Trinity I've mentioned just want to plunge the world into a living sadistic Hell for the sake of perpetrating Hell and suffering itself and nothing more, with no sympathetic or rational justifications whatsoever.
Edited by 69.172.221.2 All tropes ultimately come from Real Life. So Real Life should be troped as well.
The Assimilation Plot was completely secret, and they initiated Second Impact because it was somehow necessary to the Applied Phlebotinum they were going to use for the Assimilation Plot.
Or maybe because the prophecies they were using said that the Assimilation Plot couldn't happen until after Second Impact. Evangelion, why must you be so convoluted!! *shakes fist*
Team America: "The purpose of Kim Jong Il's "9/11 times 2356" is turn every country in the world into a Third World country, through global terrorist attacks that will create worldwide chaos. note In point of fact, this would amount to roughly 7 billion deaths, which was just about the entire population of Earth at the time"
Where does the claimed "7 billion deaths" come from? I don't remember that being mentioned in the film, and taken literally, 9/11 (2996 deaths) time 2356 would be a little over 7 million. Which is a hell of a lot, but literally 1000 times less than claimed.