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Jun 30th 2016 at 11:59:39 PM •••

"It is also the reason why in some countries, such as France or Finland, it is actually illegal to just do nothing in case of certain emergencies such as traffic accidents if a Frenchman hits you with his car, he will stay to help, not because he's concerned about you, but because he doesn't wants to get thrown into jail."

I don't know enough about French law to fix this, but "Hit and Run" is illegal in the US. I'm not sure how much aid the person who hits you is required to give, but he must stay. There is also the issue of whether an innocent bystander is required to give aid.

VVK
Jan 4th 2016 at 2:33:15 PM •••

Removed this from under Watchmen:

  • Given how cognizant Rorschach is of this trope, it is darkly appropriate that he himself inverts it: he works tirelessly to aid helpless strangers, seeing no problem defending humanity in a general way (e.g., beating up criminals) and idolizing or idealizing people he doesn't know (Kitty Genovese, Harry Truman, etc.) but every person he actually knows and/or spends much time with, he hates.

It's not really true. He despises people on the street and assaults random people for information presumably on the basis that they're bound to be guilty of something. On the other hand, he respects the Comedian and likes Dan (Night Owl) in spite of not really having much in common with him. He might be trying to punish more than help... but whether that last one is true or not, he's got plenty of disgust for people he doesn't know.

Edited by VVK
Mar 9th 2013 at 6:40:15 PM •••

Has anyone else referred to this as the "pedestrian effect" or is that me mistaking "pedestrian" for "bystander"? I think whether works and gets the idea across.

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FastEddie MOD
Mar 9th 2013 at 6:54:05 PM •••

You could. It would actually make a better name, since this one sounds like dialog.

Mar 9th 2013 at 6:57:27 PM •••

Bystander or pedestrian? Bystander is the more common name whereas (though I use it) pedestrian may confuse people (sounds like a car trope, I suppose)...

FastEddie MOD
Mar 9th 2013 at 6:58:22 PM •••

Bystander is more direct. Imma do the rename.

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Oct 3rd 2012 at 12:58:08 PM •••

Why no real life examples? The whole basis of S.E.P. is the bystander effect, and no one would have really known about if psychologists hadn't articulated it from the Kitty Genovese case. I checked the reason, and it's simply "too controversial." Why is it too controversial? Is it just too uncomfortable to talk about or something?

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Oct 22nd 2012 at 7:57:32 AM •••

Just list some examples here if you feel like it.

Oct 22nd 2012 at 11:16:51 AM •••

No. The Discussion pages are not for getting around the no real life examples rules.

VVK
Jan 4th 2016 at 2:37:45 PM •••

Anyway, just for the record, the Kitty Genovese case was not an example. Some newspaper guy just made up his own facts.

http://defamer.gawker.com/nyff-so-close-to-yet-so-far-from-the-truth-about-kit-1733644440

Nov 18th 2011 at 6:57:26 PM •••

There are a few examples on this page that have been mis-filed, and really belong under Perception Filter. I've removed the entries about the Knight Bus in Harry Potter and the Tardis on Doctor Who. If you see any other mis-filed examples, please move them too.

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