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Since we're made a list for the live-action remakes, does this mean we can make a list of the sequels not made by Walt Disney Feature Animation?
Now I added a bit of trivia/firsts/lasts to each film on this page, and they were removed. Should we reconsider that seeing as how they were important facts?
"This was the last movie released during (insert random Disney historical figure name here)'s lifetime" seems to me like something more fitting on that own movie's Trivia page. Especially if said historical figure had absolutely nothing to do with the feature's production, I can't see why that sounds significant enough, or even interesting enough, to mention here.
Some Trivia you added, including the tidbits I questioned above, got removed per this ATT discussion, which the Troper didn't link to in the edit summary:
"The Nightmare Before Christmas was apparently supposed to be Disney's 32nd animated film, to have been released during the 1993 holiday season, with The Lion King, then Disney's 33rd animated film, being scheduled for the 1994 holiday season. Then Nightmare was rebranded as a Touchstone film due to being Darker and Edgier even by Disney's standards (and some of the animated canon's entries are more mature than others) and Lion King found itself pushed forward to summer 1994 and directly replacing Nightmare as Disney's 32nd as a direct result of said rebranding."
That hardly makes sense to me because The Lion King, while not scary, was more intense despite the G rating, but I still liked it as a kid. However, I think I may prefer TNBC and would like to consider this the 31.5th entry.
Does anyone know where I can find the full-length Japanese dubs of the Disney films, particularly Beauty and the Beast? Nico Nico has been no help at all.
They're retrying for The Snow Queen, according to it's page. Should we mention that here?
Which of the Disney Animated Canon films doesn't contain a Disney Princess that were made from the Dark Age Of Animation and Renaissance Age Of Animation? I can think of The Sword In The Stone, The Jungle Book, The Aristocats, The Rescuers (and its sequel), The Fox And The Hound, The Great Mouse Detective, Oliver And Company, The Lion King, Hercules, Dinosaur, The Emperors New Groove, Atlantis The Lost Empire, Lilo And Stitch, Treasure Planet, Brother Bear, and Tarzan. If there's anything I missed, please help me.
What are you talking about? The early 2000s stuff is from after the 90s renaissance, and no princesses are from the dark age. There are only ten princesses at all, these are them:
Snow White 1937
Aurora (Sleeping Beauty) 1959
Ariel (The Little Mermaid) 1989
Belle (Beauty And The Beast) 1991
Jasmine (Aladdin) 1992
Mulan (Only official Disney Princess to not actually be a princess at all) 1998
Come Back Era:
Tiana (The Princess And The Frog) 2009
Rapunzel (Tangled) 2010.
The two dark eras had none.
Why does the page claim that the canon uses Black-and-Gray Morality and Brains Evil, Brawn Good? I can't think of any examples of either. May I remove those?
I'm thinking of adding a Running Gag entry on how, during production, the name of every villain's horse since the renaissance is "Snowball". This would include Shan Yu's horse, the horses pulling Ratcliffe's carriage in Pocahontas, Jafar's horse, Gaston's horse, and Frollo's horse. Would it count as a running gag if it's never mentioned in the films?
Why is Humans Are Bastards listed as a trope on this page? How do animated Disney movies paint humanity in a negative light?
I think it is referring to King Triton's attitude toward humans from the Little Mermaid. At the end of the movie, he finally gave Ariel away to Eric accepted Eric as his son-in-law.
But shouldn't that be listed only on Mermaid's page, then, not on the page for the whole cannon? Should I remove it?
Yes, put it on the Little Mermaid's page.
Okay, just for the sake of clarification here: this page does NOT list sequels, as they're not really canon, correct? If so, we should probably add a note about that to the main page.
As far as I can tell, The Enchanted Christmas is the only sequel with a page. That said, it definitely isn't part of the canon.
Why do you all assume this is the same as Canon? Just because it has that in the name does not mean this list has some weird rules for inclusion that other indexes don't follow.
Furthermore, you're acting like I'm just singling this sequel out for inclusion, and neglecting the others. How about the other sequels might not have their own pages yet? How about when they do, they would be included as well?
Finally, whether or not they are any good, or you want to forget them, is irrelevant.
The film is a Disney film, subpar or not, and thus should be included unless proven otherwise, NOT have to prove it's worthy of inclusion. In case you forgot, There Is No Such Thing As Notability, and that is a correct use, since I'm applying it to a work.
To my knowledge, the feature numbering only counts those released in cinemas, not anything exclusive to home video. They're related to Beauty and the Beast, but it's not what the definition of the Canon is.
Where did this "Canon" definition come from about this page specifically? Plus if it's not inclusive of all Disney works, why is it an index, when we should have an index for all Disney films?
The fact is that this wiki assigns numbers to each entry in Disney Animated Canon; Beauty and the Beast is number 30, Aladdin is number 31. Sticking sequels in between them on the list here is confusing and has the potential to mess up that entire system.
Moreover, both The Other Wiki and the Disney Wiki have categories for 'canon animated features' in Disney, neither of which include any of the sequels. No, I think sequels need to stay off this page.
Well finally, I got a good reason.
But what about a section for sequels, so that the numbering doesn't bother them?
Also, this uses bullet points, not the number bullets, which would not be screwed up by that.
Okay, a seperate section for sequels, then. If you insist.
At the risk of changing the subject:
There are those who insist that All CGI Cartoons like Chicken Little, Meet The Robinsons, Bolt, Tangled and Wreck It Ralph should be put into a separate canon.
Should this be so?
No, the ones counted by Disney as Canon movies should be the only ones that stay in the Canon. This is the reason why films animated by Disney aren't always in the canon.
Perhaps this should clear things up:
45. Home On The Range
46. The Princess And The Frog
47. Winnie The Pooh
As for the CGI canon, the list would go:
1. Chicken Little
2. Meet The Robinsons
5. Wreck It Ralph
That doesn't clear it up. Disney marketed Tangled as their 50th canon movie. Their our guide for the official order of canon movies.
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