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MistressFi Since: Jul, 2019
Oct 7th 2021 at 7:33:41 PM •••

It's of no great significance to me, but out of curiosity, what is the criteria to merit the Master Sword having its own folder on the character page for a given game?

As I'm aware, currently, it has a folder present on the pages for Breath of the Wild and Ocarina of Time, as well as Fi's folder on the page for Skyward Sword. However, I attempted a similar compilation of tropes from The Wind Waker, but it was recently erased, the reason being that while Fi is considered a character, the Master Sword apparently is not.

Since Breath of the Wild demonstrates that Fi is the inherent will of the sword... My assumption as to the logic behind this is that the sword deserves a folder on the character page in any game in which it displays some will, awareness, or agency. In Breath of the Wild it communicates with Zelda, in Ocarina of Time, it chose to seal Link in the Sacred Realm... In The Wind Waker, there are moments that slightly hint at it having some awareness, and in Twilight Princess, it's acknowledged as accepting Link as its master.

I guess I'm only wondering how far a display of agency or awareness has to go in order to count. Unless that's not the reasoning behind it, and the person who erased my edits just didn't know about the ones made to Ocarina of Time's character page. But I definitely think there should be a decision made about whether the sword should be counted as a character and in which games.

MasterHero Since: Aug, 2014
Sep 7th 2021 at 4:58:58 AM •••

Well, Ganondorf has his own page (again), so I think we may have to rename the page about the Triforce Wielders to something like the "Main Duo" or "Link and Zelda" or something like that.

SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 23rd 2021 at 6:24:22 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Split this thing, started by WaxingName on Feb 15th 2011 at 4:55:14 AM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
WaxingName Since: Oct, 2010
Dec 23rd 2010 at 9:12:58 AM •••

So, should we split this character sheet between games?, since each sequel has very little to do with each other aside from a few continuity nods.

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Kayube Since: Jan, 2001
Jan 24th 2011 at 3:21:34 PM •••

I think it might be a good idea. Though, most of the time when a character appears in multiple games, even if it's a different incarnation of that character they still act pretty much the same.

MasterHero Since: Aug, 2014
Jan 9th 2018 at 9:59:21 AM •••

Since Link, Zelda and Ganondorf have their own pages now; maybe we should gather all the information on their appearances from all the canonical games and put it on their pages, separated by folders, just like James Bond.

OldManHoOh It's super effective. Since: Jul, 2010
It's super effective.
May 14th 2014 at 3:56:02 AM •••

I've not played Skyward Sword, but at what point is Impa from Ocarina of Time implied to be the very same old woman from The Legend of Zelda?

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MrDeath Since: Aug, 2009
May 14th 2014 at 9:01:07 AM •••

She isn't. It means that Impa appears as both a young warrior woman and the old crone in Skyward Sword (time travel is involved).

OldManHoOh Since: Jul, 2010
Jun 11th 2014 at 1:15:47 PM •••

Did you even read what I was talking about?

  • Long-Lived: In Ocarina of Time it was implied that its young muscular version of Impa was the same person as the shriveled elderly Impa in the original. Skyward Sword outright confirmed that the Impas have very long lifespans.

Sorry I didn't respond sooner. Watchlists are funny with discussion pages.

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madgodzulcan Since: Sep, 2013
Jun 12th 2014 at 6:59:45 AM •••

That example is worded strangely and i'm not completely sure what it is talking about, but I think it's wrong. Also I like how Impas are like a species.

MrDeath Since: Aug, 2009
Jun 18th 2014 at 9:49:29 AM •••

I thought you were referring to this:

  • Action Girl: In some incarnations, she seems less a nanny and closer to a bodyguard. In general, Impa is either a young Sheikah not unlike a ninja, or she's an old and possibly portly woman. In Skyward Sword, she's both.

In the future it would help if you specify which entry you're talking about in the discussion post.

OldManHoOh It's super effective. Since: Jul, 2010
It's super effective.
Jun 11th 2014 at 1:13:59 PM •••

At what point did Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess' Hyrule Field become a Bootstrapped Leitmotif? Was this in the post-Spirit Tracks era?

DeathToSquishies Since: Jul, 2010
Mar 2nd 2012 at 4:59:55 AM •••

I've been thinking, should we add a section for recurring Zelda enemies? Because as far as I know, most of them are significant enough to warrant a solid list of tropes such as Stalfos and Octoroks. Some of the game-specific character lists have sections tossed aside for enemies, but nothing really dedicated to them.

OldManHoOh It's super effective. Since: Jul, 2010
It's super effective.
Jan 13th 2012 at 3:36:07 PM •••

I've removed so many game-specific examples from Twinrova and Vaati it's not even funny. Should they even be on the series-as-a-whole page? Both (discounting Koume and Kotake's good forms in Majora's Mask) appear in all of three games.

OldManHoOh It's super effective. Since: Jul, 2010
It's super effective.
Jan 13th 2012 at 2:32:13 PM •••

I haven't played Skyward Sword, so lay light on the spoilers, but does anything in that game imply all the other descendants are Hylia in Human Form?

Hydronix I'm an Irene! Since: Apr, 2010
I'm an Irene!
Sep 2nd 2011 at 4:19:55 PM •••

Question: Word of God states Ganon and Ganondorf(and the various versions, except possibly FSA being a completely seperate story due to different origins) are the exact same person. Does this also include in every game? I'd like to find that exact link. For you know, fact, since this is always a huge controversy.

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OldManHoOh Since: Jul, 2010
Jan 13th 2012 at 2:31:22 PM •••

I'm sure that was the implication. For Ganon and Ganondorf the forms, Ocarina of Time, Ganondorf's first appearance in human form more-or-less proves that Ganon and Ganondorf are the same.

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