Shouldn’t Obito also be a Greater-Scope Villain since he was behind the Akatsuki’s actions?
Hide / Show RepliesHe's way too active to be a Greater-Scope Villain, plus he winds up not being entirely villainous in the end. So he fails the "greater scope" (since he is the scope) and arguably the "villain" part.
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.Can I ask why Madara has all that info in his Big Bad trope, when he lasted only twenty chapters as the main Big Bad before being hijacked by Kaguya? And Obito, who has been the Big Bad above many others during six arcs, has been around during all Shippuden and has more involment in the story , only has a "has been eclipsed"?
After all, both of them have been eclipsed. It is because of Obito`s Heel-Face Turn? It doesnt erase all the stuff he did by his own.
Hide / Show RepliesI'm inclined to agree.
If anything, I'd say Madara and Obito are a Big Bad Duumvirate. The main conflict in the plot can be ultimately traced back to Madara; however he was dead until midway through the final arc, and until then it was Obito's actions that drove the plot.
IMO they both qualify as Big Bads.
Remember, Madara was the one who initiated Obito's Face–Heel Turn in the first place. While they are a Big Bad Duumvirate, Madara was the one who started it all.
Actually niether are the Big Bad. It's really Black Zetsu who's the sole Big Bad of the series, as he's been manipulating everyone since forever.
I wouldn't consider Black Zetsu the big bad, since he really didn't do much within the actual scope of the story other than prod on certain members of the Uchiha Clan. He barely interacted with the protagonist.
IMO Black Zetsu is The Man Behind the Man (for Madara) and a subordinate of the Bigger Bad (Kaguya), but not the actual Big Bad of the series.
Should Obito and Tobi really have two separate entries? After all, it's not as if they're different people. Tobi is just Obito after his Face–Heel Turn.
I thought it was generally poor practice to have two different entries for the same character. Might be better to merge them.
Hide / Show RepliesI suspect it's split to prevent spoiler issues.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanI think Tobi being on the "Obito Uchiha" character page kinda makes that a moot point...
Can we add Contrasting Sequel Antagonist on Obito’s page and compare him to Orochimaru, since Obito is the main antagonist the majority of Part 2?
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