It is definitely misuse. Foils are characters who contrasted each other within the work. The example and the version on the Iron Fist character page should be deleted.
Actually, I am discussing similaries AND differences between the two.
What Chytus said. The example looks more like a YMMV thing such as Counterpart Comparison. It fails so much the basic requirement for Foil, that's not even arguable.
I agree with both stfan and chytus. A foil is intended to be a separate character within the same story who provides contrast to another character (usually the protagonist). Regardless of the simularities and contrasts, Danny Rand does not appear in the Black Panther movie and thus is not a foil.
I'd also say that the Spider-Man foil entry is a shoehorn as well. Do they even interact? Are they actually compared in the work and used to highlight each others' differences? Yes, they can be compared and they're not identical, but that does not a foil make. That's hopelessly broad that I could make a "foil" entry for literally any two characters.
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Then...can someone explain why there is a foil on Luke Cage's page for Steve Rogers?
Delete all such entries. I've been doing it for a while for MCU characters, but I only check those from movies (because I watched them all, unlike TV series).
That is gonna piss off SO MANY people. Should get permission first before you do that?
No. If you are sure the trope is misused, just delete the wrong example and provide a justification in the notes. If someone disagrees, you can always start a discussion. Foil misuse has been discussed numerous times.
Quite a few.
I'll remove the entry on Black Panther's page per discussion. If you find more shoehorned examples of Foil and are unwilling to remove them yourself, please write in this thread.
I'll help with the cleanup. Though in regards to Luke Cage, I'd just like to point out that in-universe he was called "Harlem's Captain America". That might be the only one allowed to stay.
That doesn't necessarily make him a foil. Technically, that would, at most, indicate Captain America a foil for Cage and not vice-versa.
Plus, being compared to someone is not the same as being a foil. Patrick Swayze isn't a foil for Thor, after all.
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Question: don't they ALL take place in the same universe - and thus, work?
Nope. The idea is that the writers _purposefully set_ two characters to highlight each other's traits. It does not necessarily happen even within one movie.
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I've found an unindexed duplicate page for him. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/MCUAvengersWakandanGovernment
Anyone willing to check the tropes on that page and move the missing ones here before the second page gets merged?
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Starting a discussion since I don't want to start an edit war and troper TrueChaos restored his edit I deleted. I believe this is Not An Example for Foil - the characters are not present in the same work to highlight each other's traits. A lot of tropers misuse Foil to discuss character similarities, but this is not what the trope is about.
- Has a surprisingly alot in common with Danny Rand, which makes their differences all the more potent and striking. Both were raised and trained from a very young age to take up an traditional mantle native to their land that's been passed down for generations and be said land's greatest guardian and both were outed by said position by an family member, only to regain it at the end, and learning a great deal about themselves as a result. However, Danny is an outsider of K'un Lun that was adopted and had to fight many others for the right to get the Iron Fist, while T'Challa is the Warrior Prince of Wakanda, who later inherited the title as king after the death of his father. The more mystical Danny is Incompletely Trained in his position, coming across as incompetent and childish to others in his attempts in understanding his position, meanwhile the more technological T'Challa has displayed ''very mature competence in his role as the Black Panther, knowing the best ways to use his abilities in the appropriate situation both in AND out of battle.
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