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Agentofchaos AGodAmI Since: Dec, 2021
AGodAmI
Jan 28th 2024 at 6:55:54 PM •••

Since Lute has her own picture now should we change Adam's pic to one that's just him?

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Umbreon565 Since: Jun, 2018
Jan 18th 2024 at 4:34:41 PM •••

Hey the series has premiered, is it okay to edit the character pages?

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zarpaulus Since: Jan, 2001
Jan 18th 2024 at 5:14:27 PM •••

Or any other pages for that matter.

Saturnina Someone Since: May, 2019
Someone
Jan 14th 2024 at 4:10:37 AM •••

Is Rosie's haircut a 1920s haircut? We haven't seen the back of her head yet and she might have a hairbun, but another trope's description in her folder describes her and Alastor being inspired by the same decade even though the former is based on Mary Poppins (late 1900s) while the latter was from a couple decades later when it comes to aesthetics (early 1930s).

snowfire Quintesson Prosecutor Since: Dec, 2021
Quintesson Prosecutor
Jun 16th 2022 at 3:39:32 PM •••

Alastor's page really doesn't need his moniker in it.

I'd like to shorten it to just Hazbin Hotel: Alastor.

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snowfire Since: Dec, 2021
Jun 17th 2022 at 6:08:57 AM •••

Any objections?

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snowfire Since: Dec, 2021
Jun 18th 2022 at 1:14:57 PM •••

No one has said anything, and Three-Day Rule says I can do stuff, so I'll be doing that.

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Napoleon_Blownapart Since: Oct, 2019
Nov 7th 2020 at 5:57:41 PM •••

On the topic of the butcher character. first, as a rule, There Is No Such Thing As Notability on this site. Second, We already have dedicated folders for similarly minor characters, such as Travis, Eddie, and Martha. heck, Rick and Morty has an entire page dedicated to one-off characters, including Concherto, who gets a single minute of screentime before being killed. There's also such characters as Varsity Kid from Salad Fingers and The Milkman from Western Animation/Freakazoid.

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Elfkaiser Since: May, 2013
Nov 7th 2020 at 10:20:28 PM •••

On the There Is No Such Thing as Notability rule, looking at the page itself it doesn't really address the subject of what type of characters should get folders. It mostly talks about works and examples being notable but doesn't really talk about what qualifications a character should have to warrant them their own folder. There's nothing in it that says that a character has to be noteworthy to be given an entire folder but there's nothing in it either that says that every unnoteworthy character can be given a folder.

Also I think there maybe a confusion between notability and noteworthy, one of the arguments I used against the butcher. Notability as defined by that very Administrivia page is being known by people. What I meant by noteworthiness is things like how much of an impact a character has on the plot, how unique their design is, and etc. Might be no real difference in others' opinion but that's kinda what I meant by my argument.


For your examples from other pages/series:

The majority of the one-off characters on the Rick and Morty page either have names, are noteworthy, major enough characters or at least not too minor, or a combination of some of the above if not all. Concherto, which you cited as an example, has a name and was noteworthy enough for his unique design and what he did in the stinger so it's understandable why he'd be given a folder of his own.

On Varsity Kid from Salad Fingers. Don't know the series so I don't know if he's noteworthy or what other reason he was given his own separate folder. Might even be wrong as a character with only 2 tropes doesn't seem enough to warrant their own folder.

On The Milkman from Freakazoid. I can't find him anywhere in the respective characters page for Freakazoid. He appears to not have a section in the Villains folder let alone an entire folder dedicated to him.

Also if you're going to use other series as precedent for your argument, I'll give other character pages of other series for mine. In the Steel Ball Run characters page for Jo Jo's Bizarre Adventure, there's no folder for Weakapipo's sister, an unnamed minor character whose only role is that she's what motivates him. In the Stardust Crusaders characters page for Jo Jo's Bizarre Adventure, there's no folder for the unnamed woman that Polnareff saves from Alessi. In the Animal Kingdom Pirates characters page for One Piece, there's no folder for Mouseman, a very minor character who only appeared in one chapter/episode but is the guy who advised Urashima to take advantage of his status. All these as of this writing.


In regards to other similarly minor characters with folders in Hazbin and Helluva:

For Travis, Eddie, and Martha, they're foremost all named and are very noteworthy. Travis appears in the pilot and the Addict music video and is even mentioned in the Instagram pages. Eddie and Martha, despite being technically minor characters, have big enough roles in the episodes they appear in.


Now addressing the butcher himself:

The problem with giving the butcher from Alastor's comic his own folder is that he kinda has a lot of issues altogether that kinda make him a nothing character.

  1. He doesn't have a name.
  2. He's a very minor character whose only role is to highlight Alastor's cannibalism, both via supposedly serving Al venison and being eaten by Al, and to highlight Alastor possibly being good to some degree by assaulting the sheep girl so that Al can save her. The latter thing could just as well be achieved by a random mugger.
  3. He's doesn't have a unique enough design other than generic Pig Man and it seems that he hasn't had that much of an impact if fanworks I've seen made after the comic was released are any indication. The unnamed sheep girl who has just the same amount of nothing if not less is more noteworthy than him. Heck, even the unnamed jazz player in the comic is more noteworthy than the butcher.
  4. There's absolutely no indication that he'll be more than just that one random guy that Al dismembered.

There's also the multiple speculative and misused tropes that you gave him for his folder. A number of spelling and grammar mistakes as well to a lesser degree.

The butcher just doesn't have that much going for him to warrant giving his own folder. He's kinda on par with that guy who stole Angel's drugs, that guy Vaggie punched for calling Charlie a bitch, that demon who killed his wife for "fucking with the deliveryman", Eddie's mom, and that kid with the dunce cap who reminded that it was Mr. Mayberry's birthday.

Napoleon_Blownapart Since: Oct, 2019
Talos111 Since: Mar, 2018
Dec 5th 2019 at 5:33:28 AM •••

Does anyone have some source about the name of the angels? I only find them referred to as exterminators, including the fandom page (hazbinhotel.fandom.com/wiki/Exterminators), but some people here refer to them as exorcists.

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pikachu17 Since: May, 2017
Dec 5th 2019 at 8:53:03 AM •••

The Fandom page says: "According to Vivziepop on You Tuber Artisim Podcast's Episode 59, only the Exterminators can really and truly kill the citizens of Hell using their special tools." Perhaps she mentions them by name in that episode?

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Talos111 Since: Mar, 2018
Dec 5th 2019 at 12:12:08 PM •••

A more recent stream confirms its exorcists, Hunicast - "HAZBIN'S FINALLY HERE", at about the 1:27:10 mark.

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