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GastonRabbit MOD (General of TV Troops)
1st Sep, 2020 10:54:04 PM

I removed the wicks (since it's not a trope) and cutlisted the redirect. The redirect doesn't need to stay up for a new trope to be launched with that name, and whether we already have that trope would be a question for Trope Finder.

Edit: Give me a bit and I'll sandbox the wicks I removed.

Edit: Here: Sandbox.Rebel Without A Cause. I omitted wicks that were for the film and just needed the namespace to be changed.

Edited by GastonRabbit Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
2nd Sep, 2020 12:16:27 AM

I've seen work pages being linked to as if they were tropes. I think it happens when people see a blue link and don't check it, interpreting it instead solely by its title - which judging by TRS experience is very common. I've turned this redirect into a disambiguation before seeing this query.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
GastonRabbit MOD (General of TV Troops)
2nd Sep, 2020 12:18:32 AM

I didn't know about the Terrorists Without a Cause page when I cutlisted Main.Rebel Without A Cause. I'm fine with disambiguating since that trope exists.

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
jandn2014 Since: Aug, 2017
2nd Sep, 2020 03:21:06 AM

I do think Rebel Without A Cause is a distinct idea on its own, though, so I’m wondering if that’d be a viable idea for a trope.

back lol
StFan Since: Jan, 2001
2nd Sep, 2020 04:44:31 AM

It happens for a work title to be used as if it were a trope by some editors not looking past what evoke the name.

This is a recurring problem for Lone Wolf notably, even after the Main/ redirect was cut. I regularly do clean-up of this title.

Adept (Holding A Herring)
2nd Sep, 2020 05:19:00 AM

^^ We have Rebellious Spirit that seems to convey the idea indicated by the trope name. Besides, it's not like rebels (especially the "rebellious teenager" variety) typically have a cause beyond not wanting to obey rules.

Edited by Adept
crazysamaritan MOD Since: Apr, 2010
2nd Sep, 2020 05:38:59 AM

~MaLady has a cleanup thread for exactly this problem.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
TheMountainKing Since: Jul, 2016
2nd Sep, 2020 08:06:55 AM

Is it worth keeping the disambig for only about 300 inbounds?

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
2nd Sep, 2020 08:17:28 AM

^^ - Yep, I do.

    Nevermind 
I'm not sure why I seem to never have noticed Rebel Without A Cause as a problem when I made that thread years ago...

I guess I thought it was already fixed? OR a redirect to an existing trope?

WHOOPS! Just bad formatting. It's right after "The Racoons"...

... So.... Cool People Rebel Against Authority as another target?

^ - And yes. If it's a sensible redirect to any known trope, because it's also a work name.

Edited by Malady Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576
TheMountainKing Since: Jul, 2016
2nd Sep, 2020 12:17:44 PM

^ It's no a redirect to anything, it's a separate page. It also, like all disambig pages, cannot be linked to on this, so it's only purpose is catching inbounds. I'm asking if preserving those 300 links is worth keeping it as a blue link that will make people mistake it for a trope.

GastonRabbit MOD (General of TV Troops)
2nd Sep, 2020 12:23:22 PM

Adding Cool People Rebel Against Authority to the disambiguation page sounds like a good idea.

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
2nd Sep, 2020 12:58:56 PM

^^ - Yes, but if it were a name that made sense as a redirect to something, but since it's also the name of a work, it should be a disambig.

Edited by Malady Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576
crazysamaritan MOD Since: Apr, 2010
2nd Sep, 2020 12:59:44 PM

It's no a redirect to anything
You'll be wanting ta re-read the OP; "The page itself is actually just a redirect"

It is now a disambiguation, based on discussion here. Before that, it were a redirect, and before that, a work page.

Edited by crazysamaritan Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
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