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At risk of starting an argument, I feel the need to say...something, just to get it off my chest: Doesn't that just seem a bit too restrictive? I absolutely understand the need to do pretty much everything on the thread, but when it comes to things like cleaning up errors in an example or removing potholes for a TRS effort, that's when it feels like this goes just a bit too far, when every single character of an example needs to be pre-approved before anything can be done with it, even if the changes are totally valid.
Like, ya'll have every right to stop unapproved edits due to how extremely misused the trope is; but sometimes it just feels a bit... excessive. I'm saying this just because I think it needs to be said; I don't want to get into an argument, I just want to say my piece on the issue. It's been bothering me ever since the whole "Evil Albino pothole" issue.
Edited by WarJay77 Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessIf you think I'm being too restrictive, I invite you to look through the edits that have been done and judge based on that instead of assuming I'm jumping on minor grammar fixes, which by the way, are absolutely fine to do as long as the troper just takes the time to also request the change on the locked pages as well.
It just feels weird to me that even accuracy fixes need to be approved first; I guess I just don't see how fixing the text of an already approved example should be such a big deal as long as the edits don't break actual rules in the process or add false information. If it's just to make the example accurate, is it really that big of a deal that they didn't get their changes approved first?
IDK, I'm glad you don't crack down on things like grammar edits and stuff, I just feel like the amount of stress there seems to be when these sort of things happen is unnecessary; I guess I feel like once an example is set free on the wiki, the thread shouldn't be as concerned over curating it anymore.
It might just be me. I just had to speak up because this is something that's been on my mind for a while now.
Edited by WarJay77 Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessWe're supposed to have the entry on the YMMV match the one on the main locked page... if it's a minor change that's fine, presumably the troper will take it upon themselves to also see the locked page gets changed. In Edelgard's case going through the edits would show you vast swathes of text were altered without any attempt to match it to the main text, so I'm left combing through things to find changes I'm not sure are actually even accurate due to not having played the game. It's not a "stress" but it is a point of contention that people can't just double up on making sure their edits get transposed to the locked pages and I don't see why this needs to be something to get off your chest, I'm just asking things be done straightforwardly so I don't have to pick up the extra work.
The Locked Pages part makes a lot of sense; I guess I took it the wrong way (less "needs things consistent across pages" and more "doesn't want any example to change ever without approval"). I generally forget that these things are posted in two parts of the wiki at once, so it seemed like just a lot of extra restrictions placed on someone just editing a YMMV page, I didn't think about how it'd need to also be on the other part of the wiki.
Theoretically though, what if they made the changes and posted on the locked thread without ever visiting the MB thread? Would that be okay?
Edited by WarJay77 Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessAs long as it's not a contentious change that's fine, the issue is no one bothers to do that and I've had to deal with this for well over a year now.
If that's a dispute between you two, then ATT is not the best forum.
Scientia et Libertas | Per Aspera ad Astra Nova^^ Fair enough, glad to hear that.
Like I said, I didn't want to argue, this just seemed like the only time I could bring this up. Now that I get what's actually going on, I'll drop the issue and leave it alone- I totally misunderstood the situation.
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Edelgard was approved as a Magnificent Bitch on the cleanup thread and since her posting received many unapproved edits. I made a post on my edit reverting but it seems the original entry may have had some errors in it. I'll say again here, if anything does need to be changed please bring it to the thread I've linked in this post. I'm putting this here to dissuade further changes without proper procedure being followed.