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You are engaging in an Edit War since you've re-added the examples after they were deleted. It's good that you brought it up here, but you should have done that before your second edit.
I'm not very familiar with the work in question, so I can't really comment on this issue (I did edit the page recently, but only because I noticed a non-YMMV trope on there during a Wiki Walk).
Edited by Zuxtron
...I did get carried away there, yes. I apologize. But in my defense, the way the troper explained the deletion as me just “projecting” or otherwise ranting was very hurtful. Who wouldn’t get pissed off?
Looking at your examples again, they don't seem to be valid examples:
- Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy: The degree to which Lifewonders takes its social commentary on certain issues (especially organized religion) is can be taxing or heavyhanded. The Aoyama and Otemachi arcs are especially guilty of this. The Event scenarios are much better paced.
Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy is about a story where it's hard to root for anyone, either because no-one is likable enough or because we know they're doomed to fail. That's not what the example is conveying here, it's just complaining about the story being too critical of "certain issues". It fails to explain why there are no characters we can get behind.
- Play the Game, Skip the Story: The mixed messages, heavy-handed social commentary and religion-shaming can turn players off.
Play the Game, Skip the Story is about a game that has a good, in-depth plot, but players ignore it because it's not relevant to the gameplay, which they find much more interesting. Once again, this is just complaining about the game's handling of religious themes, and says that it "can turn players off" instead of explaining how they simply ignore the plot in favor of the gameplay.
Also, Audience Reactions require that a notable amount of people feel a certain way. As I said before, I'm not familiar with the work so I can't know whether or not this is true, but if you haven't seen multiple people complain about these aspects, they're not worth mentioning.
So what you’re saying is that i’m in the wrong here. That’s what you’re saying, right?
Edit: Forget it. I have deleted my edits, and will simply not edit on the page again. Since it seems everyone here feels the same way, I have decided to bow out and defer to the majority. I am now considering leaving the site. This was the last straw.
I apologize for all inconveniences caused. I assure you that my edits, however strong, were made in good faith.
Edited by FamFamFamFamFam
I vehemently disagree with the Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy and Play the Game, Skip the Story entries being deleted. First, the troper doesn’t know if one person is “projecting” or if a few people feel this way. Second, whether the majority or otherwise portion of the fanbase feels this way is irrelevant: Christianity is portrayed very negatively in this game. Mythology gets a free pass because it’s cooler? And lastly, I do believe the plot can be stagnant at times with the commentary.
How do I rewrite those entries then so they sound less inflammatory?
Also, I honestly felt targeted for being more conservative than other fellow players of the game. I was not “projecting”. I simply wrote an alternative view of the plot that the majority will simply not consider out of (understandable) hatred for Christianity.
I’ve rewritten the entries to be less inflammatory, but I plan to fight this until the end because I do not feel it’s right.