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BoltDMC Since: May, 2020
16th Nov, 2022 05:03:36 AM

Couple thoughts:

-there are some ZCE entries, such as Careful with That Axe and Large Ham. These need fleshing out.

-the Shout-Out and Cover Version entries have incorrect indentation.

Unfortunately, I’m not able to help here, as I’m not familiar with his work.

Edited by BoltDMC
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
16th Nov, 2022 06:24:20 AM

Also don't neglect Cross Wicking your entries. Half the wicks are indexes by the look of it and one's an Administrivia page.

If you add a Dead All Along entry to Jon English, make sure Dead All Along has a Jon English entry.

Edited by sgamer82
HippieHalfBreed Since: Oct, 2015
20th Nov, 2022 08:25:43 AM

Thanks for the feedback, I'll get to work on it right away. But if I may ask, what does ZCE stand for?

BoltDMC Since: May, 2020
20th Nov, 2022 08:49:41 AM

A ZCE is a Zero-Context Example. You’ll want to go to

Zero-Context Example

and read it with care. Short version: every trope entry needs to be clear and self-explanatory to someone totally unfamiliar with the work — and while you can provide a link or cite text, they don’t take the place of the self-explanatory part of the entry.

Note that repeat issues with creating ZCE entries can get a troper suspended.

Amonimus (Sergeant)
20th Nov, 2022 08:52:47 AM

tl;tr: An unfamiliar reader has to see that the trope is present in the sentence it's attributed to. If someone can't guess what trope is there without looking at the trope name, then it's worse than if it wasn't there at all.

For example:

  • Large Ham: Present [what's present??] in live performances and his acting roles, such as The Pirate King.

Edited by Amonimus TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
HippieHalfBreed Since: Oct, 2015
20th Nov, 2022 09:20:20 AM

Thanks, I'll try to flesh them out more. I also don't know what the correct indentation for Shout-Out and Cover Version is, but I'll do my best. Again, anyone who wants to make any edits of any kind is more than welcome to do so.

Amonimus (Sergeant)
20th Nov, 2022 09:25:01 AM

See Example Indentation in Trope Lists.

  • A trope with one example should be in one singular "*".
  • A trope with more than one examples needs itself be at "*" separated and examples to have a "**" each. It's not acceptable to have one example on "*" level and a second one at "**" level.
  • There's generally no good reason to use "***" except for grouping works by franchise, though still controversial.

Meaning your Shout-Out and Cover Version examples need to start from a new line.

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