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Entries should only be commented out if they lack context and the troper isn't familiar enough with the work. Also, edit reasons should suffice for any commented out/deleted entry.
I didn't choose the troping life, the troping life chose me
The troper commented out many examples, which is probably why they wrote notes next to each one of them, instead of writing one broad edit reason. Or maybe they wanted others to see them and improve them?
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Edited by Vilui
I've already added the ZCE and Creator Page Guidelines note at the top of the page.
He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
They should have fixed the entries themselves, leaving these little notes all through the page is a mis-use of the % % markup. If they don't have the time, then they should come back later and fix.
This was nottheactualevents, and the edit in question was done in September of 2020, so plenty of time to fix themselves.
I didn't choose the troping life, the troping life chose me
If these were personal notes, someone should inform them of the To-Do list.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Perhaps I could fix up those entries if they don't get around to it? I'm familiar with Stray Kids and their music.
^^^ That's assuming they know the work though. A lot of people just clean up random pages.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
One of their notes states "rephrase this to reflect current changes - find a fitting duo trope, probably", and with the numerous other edits, they seem to be very familiar.
I didn't choose the troping life, the troping life chose me
"They should have fixed the entries themselves, leaving these little notes all through the page is a mis-use of the % % markup"
ONLY if they're one who added the entry themselves. Not everyone watch the same show, and more specific extra note about what's missing from the context can be helpful option.
"Also, edit reasons should suffice for any commented out/deleted entry."
Consider how many commented out entries last for years even on high-trafficed pages... not really. Not to mention that sometime a troublesome page would require over hundred entries commented-out at once.
@gjjones, Forgot about these guidelines, thanks for adding them.
@Psychedelicate, Please do. I'm not completely familiar with their music & mvs (just a casual listener), only them as a band.
So, like, is it ok or not ok to leave notes with the comment markup? I also wanna know for myself when I do cleanups in the future.
Cleanup notes to other editors are OK. Examples of cleanup notes in the trope list
%% Needs to describe the "slob" part, not just the "fat" part
%% ZCE, how do they contrast each other?
%% Examples Are Not Recent, entry shouldn't speculate, delete if it doesn't fit
Edited by Tabs
This is only when the editor who's doing a cleanup isn't familiar with the media/work itself, right? I mean, if they are already familiar with it, why wouldn't they just fix it on the spot or make a to-do list to come back to it later if they are busy.
Well, unless they said so, how you know if they're familiar with it or not?
If they, themselves, add examples into the page but comment out others' examples that they feel need more improvement instead of just fixing them immediately?
ZCEs should always be commented out if no one wants to fix them right away.
^^ While it does implies that the troper is familiar with the work, it isn't surefire. There's possibility that they're just moving misplaced example or copying example from another page for crosswicking. It's also possible that while the troper is familiar with the work, they have no idea about the event of the ZCE (they may just can't remember or miss that episode, and sometime ZCE give no useful clue at all).
Edited by Kuruni
Alright, so, the conclusive answer to my original question is that I'm allowed to add little hidden notes next to commented-out examples under whatever circumstance, correct?
Yes, I'd say so. Nothing wrong in itself with asking for improvement.
Yeah, I leave commented notes by zero-context examples all the time.
Ok, thanks, everyone.
Is it okay to add notes and remarks about how to improve an example that was commented out and why it was commented out like this?
%% * ProtestSong: Some of their songs are about identity loss due to and frustrations towards societal pressures and the education system, or at least contain such content, such as "Hellevator", "NOT!", "Mirror" and "My Pace" %% needs to be rephrased %%
^ I found this in the Stray Kids page when I went to edit it.
Edited by selkies