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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#10501: Apr 18th 2019 at 5:04:26 PM

It's basically a variation on San Dimas Time, in which changing the past will have future consequences in "real time" - such that stuff you change won't actually take effect until the audience sees you do it.

It doesn't really make sense (if they actually wanted to be consistent, which they don't, they would need another time traveller to show up at this point), but it's not supposed to. As a result, analyzing about it makes the plot more convoluted than its intended to be.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 18th 2019 at 5:05:46 AM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Windona Since: Jan, 2010
#10502: Apr 19th 2019 at 10:09:59 PM

I think it could be ripple effect (Neutron was standing right next to the time machine and didn't wait), but it's notable that things about Neutron and the environment change, and Neutron assumes things didn't change because he was looking at a blown up Mount Justice. Obviously, Impulse did manage to change things enough that Barry lived and that the Reach invasion of Earth failed.

Still, my point stands that even if the Light's plan was always to betray the Reach the Light are playing with fire and aren't as in control/successful as they think. And they don't realize that because they have no reason to think Impulse is from the future, or even if they know that they don't know he's from a post apocalyptic one.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
AHI-3000 Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
#10504: May 4th 2019 at 4:07:02 PM

Isn't it premature to ask for another season when the current one isn't even finished yet?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#10505: May 4th 2019 at 4:32:35 PM

Considering how long it took to make this one...I'd honestly say no.

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DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#10506: May 4th 2019 at 5:06:19 PM

Supposedly, this season is getting good ratings, so a fourth season doesn't seem out of the question. Question is, how many seasons did Greg Weisman envision to finish telling his story?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#10507: May 4th 2019 at 5:25:34 PM

I wouldn't be surprise if he never planned beyond two considering his usual Running Gag of his shows getting cancelled after two seasons.

Or at least never staying with it for longer than that.

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GamerSlyRatchet Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
#10508: May 4th 2019 at 6:47:28 PM

I remember hearing he and Vietti have made solid plans for up to five seasons, but I don't know if that's overall or just from season three and up.

Also, considering how fast DC Universe was in greenlighting and announcing new seasons of their live-action originals, I think it's reasonable to at least be concerned. The little Weisman and Vietti have said doesn't inspire much hope either.

Latest blog update (November 5th, 2022).
Windona Since: Jan, 2010
#10509: May 4th 2019 at 8:17:40 PM

Plus, given how long it takes to make animation and how good ratings didn't save YJ on Cartoon Network... it's worth a shot

AHI-3000 Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
#10510: May 5th 2019 at 12:37:03 PM

Speaking of Greg Weisman and cancelled shows, I wonder if the idea of reviving Gargoyles on that new DisneyPlus streaming service has crossed his mind (or the minds of his fans) yet.

DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#10511: May 5th 2019 at 2:39:37 PM

Probably not. Most modern revivals of 90s cartoons are reboots rather than continuations. If he did, he'd have to redo or overwrite those comics he wrote for a time. A revival of that comic series would be nice, though. In fact, I'm surprised that hasn't happened in some way or another.

GamerSlyRatchet Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
#10512: May 5th 2019 at 4:19:10 PM

We were getting close to it a few years ago when Joe Books had the rights and were likely going to test the waters with a Cinestory (a screenshot comic from the pilot). But that project got cancelled, so there's been no news on that since.

Latest blog update (November 5th, 2022).
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#10513: May 6th 2019 at 8:45:12 AM

Anyone know what Artemis was studying in college?

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#10514: May 21st 2019 at 5:10:45 AM

So regarding Terra. Other adaptations have gone with the idea that Slade was the true villain in the Judas Contract while making Terra more sympathetic. What are the odds of this show either making Terra more evil than Slade or just making them both equally evil?

lycropath Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#10515: May 21st 2019 at 10:21:24 AM

I mean even in the original Deathstroke was the guy sexually manipulating a mentally ill teenager.[lol]

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#10516: May 21st 2019 at 12:17:24 PM

[up][up] The only adaptation that I recall which softened up Terra was the 2003 one.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#10518: May 21st 2019 at 7:51:46 PM

That is a question I have been wondering myself. On one hand they could with the sympathetic route as her backstory indicates that she was kidnapped 2 years before the event, was said to be very well loved in the Markovian Royal Family and most likely was forced to serving the League of Shadow during said time which eventually desensitized her to becoming like them. On the otherhand, the writers could swerve us and have her be like her classic full on sociopath interpretation by having her intentionally ran away from her own home to seek out more thrilling opportunites and basically enjoys the newfound merchanary life that see couldn’t have from her life as a princess.

A part of me thinks the latter will most likely happen as not only will it be a rare opportunity for outside media to portray a Terra with little to no sympathetic qualities but also this will be the second Greg Wiseman show to turn a classic It Was His Sled moment from comics into a surprising twist in the show (the first being Norman Osborne reveal as the Green Goblin from Spectacular Spider-man).

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#10519: May 21st 2019 at 8:12:43 PM

Oh yeah. They really baked our noodles with Norman.

We all knew it was him (even though he came up with a seemingly plausible excuse for why it could be Harry, ironically reversing a similar situation in it's predecessor), but I'll admit, I kinda wondered if Greg was throwing us a curve ball.

There's a lot of history there to work with. Terra could go in any direction.

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NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#10520: May 22nd 2019 at 7:21:45 AM

Plot twist: Terra's the alpha in this is. She has dirt on Slade that could probably ruin him if it ever got out. [lol]

BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#10521: May 22nd 2019 at 11:44:05 AM

[up] Exclusive sneak peek of the second half of Young Justice Outsider where Tara reveals the dirt she has on Slade.

In all seriousness:

1) I would not be surprise if Terra would play the pedo card on Deathstroke to get her way.

2) The kids from the movie Wizards are indeed fucking sociopaths throughout the film. Can’t believe Nintendo want us to root for them.

Rytex That guy with the face from The Shadow Realm (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Married to the music
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#10522: May 22nd 2019 at 11:57:53 AM

Even though they're hyping up the Judas Contract, I'm still not 100% certain it's gonna be played without a subversion in there somewhere. Still think Dr. Jace is gonna be the real mole, and Terra's just a subversion/being controlled. Or possibly both. Who knows, but I really think Dr. Jace is the real villain on the team.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#10523: May 22nd 2019 at 3:52:33 PM

It could go either way to be honest.

With both Jace and Terra's history, who can say?

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#10524: May 23rd 2019 at 1:14:43 AM

I would not be surprise if Terra would play the pedo card on Deathstroke to get her way

Yeah, that might not be a good idea for the writers to use given how much more aware people are of sexual abuse today.

Edited by windleopard on May 23rd 2019 at 1:19:30 AM

CitizenH Since: Feb, 2014
#10525: May 23rd 2019 at 6:01:09 AM

I'm not familiar with Jace's history in the comics, but on the show she's 100% sketchy. At the very least she knew "Violet" pre-death and hides this fact and was much more involved with Vertigo's operation than she lets on.


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