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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#25701: Sep 21st 2021 at 11:01:29 AM

I would take out Fugo, Diego, Mountain Tim, Wekapipo, and Kei from that list. Fugo disqualified himself, Diego's a villain right up until his last scene, Mountain Tim separates from the group and dies pretty early on, Wekapipo barely does anything before dying, and Kei doesn't do anything between her introduction and the end.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Sep 21st 2021 at 11:02:59 AM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#25702: Sep 21st 2021 at 11:16:15 AM

Would you want the Part 6 anime to do some scene re-arranging like Part 5 did with Abbacchio, Mista, and Doppio's backstories, and if so, what scenes should go where? I could see moving the monologue about Foo Fighters fearing her death to her fight with Dragon's Dream, and maybe moving around Pucci's flashbacks. Ooh, they could expand Anasui's backstory into a full-on flashback!

Azulmagia Since: Mar, 2021 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#25703: Sep 21st 2021 at 11:18:26 AM

If we're going purely off of victories to losses, does Abbacchio even win any fights?

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#25704: Sep 21st 2021 at 11:22:41 AM

He helps significantly with the Soft Machine and Man In The Mirror fights. The nature of Part 5, where everyone's fighting to the death, means that there aren't a lot of losses on the main character's side. Even the characters who do lose still contribute to the eventual win, like with Abbacchio giving Bruno the clue to beating Zucchero or giving Giorno the key to defeating Illuso.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Sep 21st 2021 at 11:23:51 AM

RWBYraikou888 The Undercover Troper from The Kingdom of Atlas Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
The Undercover Troper
#25705: Sep 21st 2021 at 12:02:29 PM

[up][up][up]Personally, I'd like to see how Weather Report ended up in prison. He was sentenced to 6 years for murder, but considering that him losing his memories mellowed him out, plus Pucci has a bit of control over Green Dolphin Street Prison, I'd like to believe that some strings were pulled to get Weather arrested, just like how Johngalli A got Jolyne arrested.

Orcus on His Throne will always be my pet peeve.
Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
King of Anime
#25706: Sep 21st 2021 at 12:12:55 PM

I guess to detail the full list... (Discounting Part 4 & 6 Jotaro and Part 3 Joseph)

  • Part 3: Kakyoin, Polnareff, Avdol, Iggy
  • Part 4: Koichi, Okuyasu, Rohan
  • Part 5: Bucciarati, Abbacchio, Mista, Narancia, Fugo, Trish
  • Part 6: Ermes, Anasui, Foo Fighters, Weather Report, Emporio
  • Part 7: Gyro, Lucy, Diego, Hot Pants, Mountain Tim, Wekapipo
  • Part 8: Yasuho, Joshu, Rai, Kei

Which one out of all of these has lost the most battles?

Honestly I'd say Part 3 has no JoBro and that Okuyasu and Bruno are the JoBros of Parts 4 and 5 respectively with none of the rest of those listed for those parts counting or being in the running at all.

Edited by Chariot on Sep 21st 2021 at 3:14:27 PM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#25707: Sep 21st 2021 at 12:27:14 PM

We're going by "everyone in the Squad is a JoBro" rules, not "there is one particular character in the Squad who is the JoBro" rules.

That said, the Part 3 JoBro is Polnareff, everyone is just too much of a coward to admit it.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Sep 21st 2021 at 12:27:47 PM

RWBYraikou888 The Undercover Troper from The Kingdom of Atlas Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
The Undercover Troper
#25708: Sep 21st 2021 at 4:28:14 PM

I'm just curious how long it'll take before we learn who will be voicing Pucci.

Orcus on His Throne will always be my pet peeve.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#25709: Sep 22nd 2021 at 2:35:33 PM

Hey, Risotto is finally going to be playable in a video game, he's getting added to Last Survivor.

MightyKombat Since: Jan, 2001
#25710: Sep 22nd 2021 at 2:39:27 PM

Judging by the date in the thumbnail...I think he's been out for like 2 or so weeks.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#25711: Sep 22nd 2021 at 3:41:49 PM

Well, it's the first I'm hearing of it. Blame Last Survivor being a Japanese-only arcade game.

MightyKombat Since: Jan, 2001
#25712: Sep 22nd 2021 at 3:45:49 PM

I mean it is kinda printed there in the thumbnail, and Japanese dating systems don't really read to different from Western ones.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#25713: Sep 22nd 2021 at 3:52:35 PM

Okay, so what? I hadn't seen the video, Youtube recommended it to me, I thought it was cool that he was finally going to be playable in some form, and no-one else had mentioned it when it was new. What does it matter that it's a few weeks old? He's still the most recent addition to the game.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Sep 22nd 2021 at 3:53:19 AM

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#25715: Sep 22nd 2021 at 5:54:22 PM

You know, I may have harped on Speedwagon claiming that Dio was born evil, but Anjuro Katagiri honestly was probably born evil. How psychotic do you have to be to commit rape at the age of twelve?

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#25716: Sep 22nd 2021 at 6:04:42 PM

It really is a contest of "most evil person in Jojo" between Angelo and Ciocollata. They both started their crime spree at a very young age, Angelo's was already mentioned, but Ciocollata was drugging and driving old folks to suicide at age 14.

Ciocollata almost certainly has a higher body-count, just due to his status in Passione and Stand ability, but Rape Is a Special Kind of Evil, after all.

RWBYraikou888 The Undercover Troper from The Kingdom of Atlas Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
The Undercover Troper
#25717: Sep 22nd 2021 at 8:26:10 PM

I'm pretty sure Angelo is more evil. At least Cioccolata grew to actually enjoy Secco's presence. Angelo never had any sort of interactions that made him seem any kind of human. If I had to rank the Top 5 most evil JoJo characters...

5. Forever
4. High Voltage Diego
3. DIO
2. Cioccolata
1. Angelo
Honorable Mentions: Esidisi, Telence; Diavolo

Orcus on His Throne will always be my pet peeve.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#25718: Sep 22nd 2021 at 9:14:46 PM

The pedophile club: Forever, Angelo, Funny Valentine and Scarlet Valentine, Tooru.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#25719: Sep 22nd 2021 at 9:31:34 PM

I still remember the sight of Angelo....doing what he does best (which is also what he does worst) to some poor kid when I was first watching Diamond is Unbreakable.

Yeah. He's worse.

One Strip! One Strip!
RWBYraikou888 The Undercover Troper from The Kingdom of Atlas Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
The Undercover Troper
#25720: Sep 22nd 2021 at 9:37:29 PM

[up][up]Don't forget about Mountain Tim and High Voltage Diego.

Orcus on His Throne will always be my pet peeve.
RWBYraikou888 The Undercover Troper from The Kingdom of Atlas Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
The Undercover Troper
#25721: Sep 22nd 2021 at 9:40:01 PM

Also, would Tooru necessarily count? Yeah, he's decades old being a Rock Human, but the way Rock Humans age is kinda similar to the High Entia from Xenoblade Chronicles. Shulk is 18, and Melia is 88, but they're both physically the same age.

Edited by RWBYraikou888 on Sep 22nd 2021 at 12:40:45 PM

Orcus on His Throne will always be my pet peeve.
RWBYraikou888 The Undercover Troper from The Kingdom of Atlas Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
The Undercover Troper
#25722: Sep 22nd 2021 at 10:06:08 PM

Wait a minute, how did we all forget J. Geil?

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/4671dc33_8e3b_49a8_aa3d_18b1c26a9cb9.png

Orcus on His Throne will always be my pet peeve.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#25723: Sep 22nd 2021 at 11:03:34 PM

I think Yoshikage Kira deserves a mention — guy's a Serial Killer who gets off on murdering girls and women and taking their hands as "trophies".

What makes him even more chilling is the Mask of Sanity he puts on to live his "quiet life". He's not Obviously Evil like some of the others mentioned, which makes him even creepier once you realize what he's really like.

Disgusted, but not surprised
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#25724: Sep 23rd 2021 at 12:36:57 AM

[up][up]At least J.Geil is a case of Even Evil Can Be Loved. Anjuro doesn't have a single interaction, even off-screen, where his mind isn't thinking "HURT! KILL! MAIM!"

[up]I'll give Kira the credit that as far as we know he's not whacking off with the hands. Though really Kira is just the Ted Bundy to Anjuro's Albert Fish

Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on Sep 24th 2021 at 5:37:12 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#25725: Sep 23rd 2021 at 12:43:06 AM

I've always found the villains who don't look like obvious villains to be the most chilling ones. Because they're the kind of villains who can easily blend into a crowd — something Yoshikage Kira actually does at one point to avoid the heroes.

To quote the description of another villain from Neverwhere, seeing what Kira really is under his normal facade "was as if the lid had been pulled off something dark and writhing: a place of derangement and fury and utter viciousness".

The recently released No More Heroes III also had Travis comment that "It's the ones who don't look like bad guys who are the real bad guys".

Edited by M84 on Sep 24th 2021 at 3:48:56 AM

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