The geography is pretty straightforward and non-contradictory, I think. We can pretty much go with what the games tell us unless some glaring issue surfaces.
Mind I suggest going through the pokedex by number and sorting out each pokemon in order? Or is that a bit too daunting?
Though I do strong suggest that we consider the canonical weights to be a loose guideline at best.
Weights... How come they don't weigh as much when they go into the ball? Where does the mass go?
Apparently, Garchomp can fly faster than a Jet.
Despite the fact that it can't fly.
So this is what I think. The reason why it can "Fly" is because it runs so fast, that people think it flies when it can't.
After all, it is the Mach Pokemon.
Even that's kind of ridiculous. Garchomp's no slouch when it comes to speed, but it's nothing particularly special. And how could anyone possibly think it could fly? It doesn't even have wings.
edited 12th Mar '10 4:27:26 PM by Gilphon
Its arms look like wings.
And the disparity between Pokedex data and Game data can be explained by two tropes.
And it has a unique Speed tier.
edited 12th Mar '10 4:29:37 PM by Kinkajou
I prefer to think that the speed stat takes into account maneuverability and reaction. Not all super-fast pokemon can react in time to surprise attacks.
So Garchomp's speed is offset by its size and relative lack of maneuverability?
Looks like it's gliding to me. It "flies" in the sense that a flying fish or flying squirrel does.
edited 12th Mar '10 4:37:01 PM by newtonthenewt
It appears we're starting with Garchomp.
So, what facts do we want to establish for each Pokémon? Besides sanitizing the 'dex data, it'd be nice to fill in the more mundane aspects as well. So, diet's probably a given.
Obviously, Plant egg types would photosynthesize.
The Treecko line doesn't rely on photosynthesis for energy, but for powering it up.
There's two possible explanations for this: The Special explanation and the anime explanation.
According to Pokemon Special, the 'mons are shrunken to fit the space inside of the ball. Presumably, the tech on pokeballs are capable of screwing with mass and density to shrink them while reducing their weight at the same time.
From what we see in the anime, they explain it by making the 'mons apparently be converted into energy when the enter the pokeball. That raises its own problems (the conversion of mass to energy is enormous. Remember E=MC^2? The "C" is the speed of light).
One possible idea I have is that it works on the same principle as the box system. The 'mons are converted into data, which is stored in the pokeballs, which are actually something like powerful computer capsules that have a calm environment programmed in for the 'mons. When you release them, then
the digimon Aelita the pokémon is rematerialized from the data.
Also up for debate is just how insulated a pokéball is to outside stimuli.
We've seen them spontaneously break out in the anime, and Wobbuffet's tendency to intrude on conversations and randomly agree with people is even canon to the games.
They're not too shocked by whatever situation they materialize into — though admittedly if you got into half the crazy crap the protagonists of any segment of the franchise do, chances are nothing would make you blink more than once.
They seem to correctly hear any commands given as the pokéball is being thrown, but before it opens. They also appear to anticipate being called on, already in a psyched-up state of asskicking readiness with rare exceptions.
Just a thought, but people eat pokemon right? I remember reading a bit of fluff somewhere in Pearl about a legend how when humans eat a pokemon they should through it's bones back to return to the earth.
So are there like Tauros and Miltank farms? Are Torchics kept in tiny cages and breed like crazy to fit an insane demand for chicken?
I thought it was Combusken cultivation.
I think the "industry" gets excess pokemon from IV breeders who unload their unwanted 'mons.
So, address Pokéballs early on, and determine edibility of each species?
Poison types, where edible at all, no doubt require a careful chef.
Though it should be noted that in the "main game" canon where eating Pokémon is mentioned, Pokémon also tend to be portrayed less intelligently than in the anime and Mystery Dungeon games. How do we avoid Moral Dissonance here?
edited 12th Mar '10 11:59:09 PM by Tangent128
Assume that there are also "dangerous" 'mons who go after humans?
Go the Touhou route and embrace Carnivore Confusion?
Say "It's all part of the circle of life" and remember that a similar situation exists in real life? (I know there are people who have cows, chickens, etc. as pets)
edited 12th Mar '10 11:59:13 PM by Enlong
Dangerous mons are show canon, at least. I heard Mystery Dungeon had more bestial opponents in addition to the civilized ones, but I haven't played those games.
Still, any intelligent members of a species would seem to preclude eating any of them.
^^^ "Competitive-style" players also bring up an issue to address. Realistically, perhaps training animals as battlers itself isn't objectionable, given the care and attention they seem to receive, but catching/breeding them by the hundreds and abandoning them in a box/chucking them into the wild seems like pretty clear animal cruelty.
I could definently picture a miltank farm. As far as we know, pokemon are the only animals in this world, so it would make sense to eat some of them.
I wonder what different pokemon taste like?
What's really dangerous is the downright reckless act of catching certain legendaries.
I mean, don't Dialga and Palkia have a space-time continuum to be regulating or something?
Maybe we should each just come up with "data logs" for different pokemon. Something from the perspective of a scientist living with the pokemon in the wild to observe their behavior.
Look up bulbapedia's article on non-pokémon animals in the pokémon world for more information.
The Pokédex - Extended Fanon Edition
Out-of-date index (as of 7:45 PST, February 28, 2011) below. Click the big fancy link above for the proper one.
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Pokémon. Yes. It is the universe of dreams for any boy or girl. Verily, a strong subset of tropers were smitten by its imaginative world, drawn in by the rich variety in Seedot, small Sunkern filled with ultimate potential of some sort. Verily, any emotional biologist's fingers would tingle and eyes would water, tears of blood would be cried at the sight of the beauty of such an open world of horizons that stretch out beyond one's imagination.
Follow me, my dear tropers, and
knock black whiteblack thyselves out.
OK, seriously, what's the deal?
We all have fond memories of the Pokémon world, and many of us have maintained or rediscovered our fandom over the years. But increasingly, we find the official materials... lacking. Sometimes the Pokédex entries are absurd- particularly egregiously, Onix is apparently less dense than water.
Mostly, we're lacking pretty much every non-battle related bit of information about the world. What kind of nests do Nidoran build? Do wild Charizard care for their young? Who pays to operate Pokémon Centers? Realistically, are any species declared too dangerous to legally train?
And we are...?
Hopefully, creating or collecting the pieces of Fanon to fill in the gaps, making a more coherent and immersive world.
Obviously, creating an "offical" fanon compilation is neither desired nor possible. Many existing fan interpretations are contradictory (Predators? The Char tailflame?), and even the official media has multiple continuities.
How to handle this?
It's probably better to focus on a few topics at a time; once the post on one topic reaches a mature state, another topic or two (depending on breadth) may be opened.
If this approach doesn't work well, we scrap it.
So, we first need to decide where to start. Bulbasaur biology and Pallet Town geography? Or open at a higher level?
Thread inspired by the posts starting here, and by this thread.
Edited by Tangent128 on Jul 19th 2018 at 10:11:47 AM