Long, clunky title: Hauled Before A Senate Sub Committee

At the very least, could use a shorter, snappier redirect.

Suggestions?

edited 23rd Oct '10 5:41:07 AM by Iaculus

Well, it's exactly what it say on the tin, and it's a pretty common phrase to lampshade it.

If shorter is needed Oversight Committee is the other common term used to describe it. And that would give us both a verb version and a noun version.

Of maybe just Senate Subcommittee?

These suggestions remove clarity about the types of scenarios we see in order to save length but it should really be the other way around. If we have "clear" why try harder on this one when you could be e.g. removing Your Mileage May Vary or ...Or So I Heard wicks?

Oversight Committee as a redirect has the advantage of adding another search term that will find the trope; Senate Subcommittee doesn't do that. Oversight Committee also works for the equivalent groups in countries other than the US.

Mad, does OC also applying to non-government organizations (companies, charities, etc) rate as a feature or a bug?

Since the trope itself is more about the actual investigations and/or hearings these committees preside over, rather than the mere existence of a committee itself, I'd, at least, propose a redirect that emphasizes that part of the trope as much as the current title.

Committee Investigation, Senate Summons, etc.

edited 23rd Oct '10 11:46:51 AM by SeanMurrayI

Ooh, I like Senate Summons as a redirect.

I'd say a feature. The point of the trope, as I read it, is "an official (and usually officious) group or organization inserts themselves into the action and tries to take over, stop, or claim the plan, activity or item on the grounds that what is done with or to it is their concern. The heroes usually disagree."

Those Meddling Politicians, basically.

In that case, the current title may be overly specific.

No, it's specifically for subcommittees. There are an amazing number of examples in media that are just subcommittees. As all the examples are about senate subcommittees and there's a large number of them, the trope doesn't really need to be expanded. Those Meddling Politicians would be more of a supertrope. The only example I'm not sure of is Outbound Flight.

edited 23rd Oct '10 12:10:52 PM by shimaspawn

^^^I think that's being a little too broad. The third paragraph clearly states, "This trope also covers investigations covered out by other legislatures, real or fictional."

Given how much is spent detailing how these committees go about investigations and hearings in the preceding paragraphs, rather than describing the committees themselves, I'd say that that enforces the sentence I just highlighted as the primary aim for what this trope has been about.

edited 23rd Oct '10 12:11:38 PM by SeanMurrayI

Hmm. It may be veering into "too long" territory, but how about Obstrucive Committee Investigation? Plays off of Obstructive Bureaucrat, which could also cover at least some of the membership of said committee.

edited 23rd Oct '10 12:12:18 PM by Nohbody

From the examples the trope seems to be about the title exactly, but the description could use some clean up perhaps. As we have 21 maybe 22 examples of Exactly What It Says on the Tin not counting the real life examples I'm for the trope being just that.

edited 23rd Oct '10 12:14:27 PM by shimaspawn

^That's possible.

edited 23rd Oct '10 12:13:31 PM by SeanMurrayI

I don't see why it should be limited to Senate committees. Why is it different if it's a House committee, or a committee in the state legislature?

And you'll note that I didn't wiki word Those Meddling Politicians; I'm not suggesting that as a redirect.

It doesn't need to be the Senate. But it does need to be a subcommittee of a legislative body or the equivalent.

Subcommittee Summons?

Subcomittee Intervention? Subcommittee Interference? Subcommittee Involvement?

I think Oversight Committee has a lot going for it. As I pointed out it gives both a verb and a noun form for easy use in a sentence.

James Bond was Hauled Before A Senate Subcommittee to discuss his License to Kill.

or

The Oversight Committee demanded James Bond appear to testify about being Licensed to Kill.

If it is really necessary to specify that it's legislative in nature:

Congressional Oversight Committee.

Yeah, it's dry and pretty much a workhorse name instead of being fancy, but that's okay since it's a redirect.

edited 23rd Oct '10 2:30:15 PM by Sackett

Oversight Committe Review

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