Self-Written Articles?

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I found Lobo, while he's got plenty of personality I think the page is confusing and irritating to read. What to do?

I say revert to third-person in Lobo. Using his speech pattern throughout the whole article is a pain to read.

So, when will there be an index for this?

The whole article pretty much fails on general article style. Again as with dead pool. Keep the intro/description but rewrite the examples.

The character articles are supposed to become Epitome articles, although I'm not entirely sure what's happening with that project yet.

Yeah, it was kind of derailed by larger things happening at the wiki and got pushed to the back burner.

So I can edit the examples so they read in third person?

Please do.

What about creating a Self-Demonstrating Name Space? The main page being the third person and a tab page at the top for a Self-Demonstrating intro?

We have a Self-Demonstrating namespace. It already has SelfDemonstrating.Brian Blessed and SelfDemonstrating.Funetik Aksent. There's no reason at all that we shouldn't use it more, especially for those self-demonstrating articles that people really like but which are difficult to read in thei current form.

edited 29th Mar '11 7:27:43 AM by Madrugada

Oh, Sorry I didnt know. I would of expected it to have an icon on the top bar.

It's not used nearly as much as it should be.

Yeah The Negima thread was going to write a self-demonstrating version of the character pages but didnt think it would have a place for it anywhere on T Vtropes... I can get that started again.

I'd like to revive this issue because I think it's something that needs to change - we can add Loki and Thanos to the current list of characters who have their entire articles self-written. Apparently Magneto and Deadman, too.

For Deadpool, it kind of makes sense since the Fourth Wall is his schtick, but for anyone who doesn't make 4th wall breaking the routine, it's incredibly annoying to try to get through it all and doesn't make any sense at all. And even for Deadpool it gets annoying once you actually get to the examples.

Would I be out of place to go through the articles of characters who don't make it a habit of breaking the fourth wall and fixing them to being written in the 3rd person? Is this a topic that needs to be discussed as a policy thing? Because it would be nice if at LEAST the examples weren't all written in self-written style.

edited 11th Aug '12 3:12:28 AM by SpaceJawa

[slight derail]antvasima, have you read Cable and Deadpool? Or considered the possibility of Character Development? I don't know what the current status quo is for Deadpool, so he might have gone back to his murderous psycho ways, but I don't think he's as simple as just evil or just neutral. Personally, I would say he's crazy, not evil, and actually wants deep down to be a good guy. He's really not the one-note character you seem to think he is. But the discussion is rather moot as it pertains to the wiki, since we're not supposed to put Character Alignment on a character's page (for good reason.) [/slight derail]

EDIT: Oops. Didn't notice how old that part of the discussion was. Nevermind.

Some of the self-written articles are funny. I actually thought GLADOS was funny, although the formatting is incredibly annoying. Deadpool makes sense, since breaking the fourth wall is his thing. But someone (okay, more than one person) has taken that and run with it. Lex Luthor? Seriously? That doesn't seem to fit with the character. It's not an in-joke, it's just weird.

I think Deadpool's page would be vastly improved if the examples and WMG pages were trimmed of their fourth-wall breaking. It makes sense for the intro, but for the whole page to be written that way seems rather unnecessarily tedious.

edited 21st Aug '12 12:27:34 PM by resetlocksley

Exactly my point. Deadpool, it makes sense, but it's still extremely irritating to have to read the entire article as though he's talking about himself. And Glados is a joke article anyway done to do away with the red links. She-Hulk would make sense too since she did the 4th-wall bit to an even more extreme level than Deadpool, yet oddly enough she DOESN'T have a self-written article.

Lex Luthor and 95-99% of the other characters who have self-written articles, on the other hand, do not make sense for it to be that way. Because even looking past their lack of 4th wall breaking, it completely breaks character for them to waste their time writing their own wiki page. Deadpool I could see wasting time doing such a thing, but why would Lex be bothered to have an account on TV Tropes Wiki and spend his time updating it? Or how would Thanos even know that TV Tropes Wiki exists? He doesn't exactly spend a great deal of time on Earth.

It's even more a disconnect when it's a few random articles done that way with no rhyme or reason and all the other character articles are written from a 3rd person perspective.

Which is why I'm wondering if there's a go ahead to do a major fix-up on those self-written articles to make them something more readable and not as out of place. I WOULD be started on it already, but I don't know what the policy is and don't want to get in trouble for doing a major cleanup job only to be told I did something wrong.

So can someone please let me or anyone else know whether we have a go ahead to being a cleanup project on these self-written articles?

edited 30th Aug '12 1:10:12 AM by SpaceJawa

We do have the Self-Demonstrating namespace, though I'm not sure what articles we have in it, other than BRIAN BLESSED!!!!!. I believe there was a push that such pages should be moved to the self-demonstrating namespace, and a normal page put in the main namespace.

Yep. Such pages go to Self-Demonstrating, the main page gets a normal version.

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The deadpool page is pure gold and should be left untouched except to add examples.

What is annoying however is home Home Stuck is done, while it isn't fully self-demonstrating it does use the same typing style as the webcomic which can be grating even for readers of Home Stuck.

And for people (like me) who don't know what Home Stuck is, the page is pretty much incomprehensible.

That Homestuck page makes me angry.

I dunno, I like it.

It's not too confusing, but I think they should put that on the Self-Demonstrating Article and write a comprehensible one for non-Homestuck readers, which is a lot of people.

I read homestuck and find it confusing still, but I fully support your second point.

edited 19th Sep '12 1:55:09 PM by Vyctorian

I've never read Homestuck before. It looks perfectly readable to me. Don't see the problem. *shrug*