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Nah. To me it was a truer Final Fantasy than XV could ever manage to be. That was quite a feat for a game made on such a limited hardware as the PSP.

And, in a generation where The Overworld started to just not exist and we had quite a lot of monorail stories, Type-0 was quite refreshing in comparison to XIII forcing you to immediately finish the game and XV and its false openness.

EDIT: I summon my Stand, THE PAGE TOPPER!!

Edited by ZeroDozer on Nov 10th 2018 at 3:41:27 PM

The last good Final Fantasy was VI, naturally.

Or maybe the truth is that no FF was ever good and they're all super overrated. The best JRPG is...uh, Suikoden II? Or maybe some JRPG nobody ever heard of and was only fan translated? There are those edgy JRPG fans who hate FF for being the face of the genre, ya know. I used to be one when I was much younger.

Edited by Nikkolas on Nov 10th 2018 at 9:47:01 AM

How could you forget Chrono Trigger?!

FF basically got more scrutinized the moment FF 7 became mainstream due to its massive modern marketing "IE you bought a ps1 for ff7"

VII success brought a mass influx of interest in the JRPG genre

Basically the PS 2 era of every JRPG got ported over here due to the success of FF on the ps1 era

Hilariously this lead to certain series getting their Big over seas break but then basically hit their peak' looks at Star Ocean,'

The real issue is ever since XIII, SE has been plagued by very real staffing issues, mismanagement and well There is kinda this very burnt out sense of creativity in the game worlds like there isn't that much love in it. "Hell They reuse the Cid Raynes fight concept TWO TIMES

> How could you forget?!

whats a Chrono Trigger

They've had staff issues since XII - that took six years to make.

I know! Chrono Trigger is a game in the nineties...for SNES.

Square Enix really needs to get their heads together, it is really affecting their projects and they need to catch up.

I don't remember when XII was concrete announced but yes it was late... by then Final Fantasy came out about 2 to 3 years apart

However I counter that XII development issues was less to do with gross mismanagement or the like but SE basically suffering an implosion from their Golden age success on the PS and X being the Ps 2 gateway drug

Spirits within bombing and losing that entire studio in a suck cost

XI being an MMO 'even if rather successful later on' had obvious management and development growing pains

and the the fact they did the first proper sequel to an FF Game X-2

Edited by FrozenWolf2 on Nov 11th 2018 at 7:58:43 AM

I found Type-0 to be pretty horrible all-round, but at least it's a bit more recognisable as a Final Fantasy game.

I don't think I'll ever replay XIII, but I don't recall being constantly frustrated at every turn with it like I was on XV. Not until end/post-game stuff anyway, and XIII-2 refined it enough that I actually like the battle system.

Type-0 had some good points

Most of which was the music, but still

I've seen some people defend Type-O but the consensus, if any, seems to be "mediocre".

Type-0 is Tabata at his emotional torque-iest, which is saying something coming off of Crisis Core.

Killing underdeveloped characters left and right, including one dude and his chocobo at the very start of the game, to get a reaction seems to be his favorite thing to do.

Edited by Hashil on Nov 11th 2018 at 9:33:34 AM

You can make an audience feel for the death of someone they haven't known for a long time, you just have to be good/efficient. The beginning of Finding Nemo is one example.

The biggest turn-off for me about Type-0 is the ridiculously convoluted combat.

Plus the game throwing massively overpowered monsters at you from pretty much the first mission. Also the insane level grinding you need to do just to keep everyone in pace with each other. Not to mention how ridiculously unforgiving the game is in general.

I must be the only wacko that actually enjoys Nintendo Hard.

I'm pretty sure they're describing Fake Difficulty.

What turned me off of Type-0 was the bad writing in general and the obnoxious main duo.

Whenever I hear someone say something positive about FFXIII, I wonder whether or not I'm in an alternate universe. Just sounds so surreal to me.

You'll understand when you're older.

I remember trying Final Fantasy 13 mostlye because I don't care much for the series' infamous Unpleasable Fanbase, so I thought the hate against it was exaggerated and wanted to form my own opinion. Then I hated it way, way more than the average unpleasable fan.

Edited by Cozzer on Nov 11th 2018 at 11:16:13 AM

You: "Fuck those guys, I'll play this game and love it!"

Three hours later.

You: "I HAVE MADE A TERRIBLE ERROR!"

I think "hate" is a pretty harsh word. Game devs don't go out of their way to piss you off.

There are games that made me ragequit but I wouldn't say I hate them.

I hate almost no video games. The few I do hate I hate because I went in with huge expectations, like Metal Gear Solid 4 or Xenosaga Episode II. Otherwise, even with bad games, I can usually find things to enjoy about them.

Like, I'm currently replaying the worst FF, VIII. This is like my...I dunno, fifth or sixth run of the game even as I will happily tear everything about it to shreds.

Sephiroth in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. What do you think of the idea?

@FF 'hate'

I once bought into that so called hate for FFXIII but I guess I got older and wiser time, I realized that the game isn't that bad. I may not always agreed with a lot of decisions made by Square Enix but I guess I warmed up to some games in that era.

Only if they make him a different character from Cloud.

Edited by GAP on Nov 12th 2018 at 5:48:57 AM