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RamenChef Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#1: May 7th 2023 at 12:54:04 PM

Current is a page quote that isn't even a catch-22. Better suggestion:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/iwlp_c22.PNG
...now what?

Though not an example in context, I think it fits cropped down like this. Pic is from I Wanna Lockpick, which currently does not have a page here.

Previous thread 1, which moved the pic here from another page.

Previous thread 2, which stalled out trying to find a replacement.

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#2: May 7th 2023 at 1:08:18 PM

Nah, even with the crop I can tell that there's more above and that the character needs to get another key first. Playing games like this I know how they work though so maybe it's just my knowledge getting in the way.

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FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
Noaqiyeum Trans Siberian Anarchestra (it/they) from the gentle and welcoming dark (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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PurpleEyedGuma Since: Apr, 2020
#5: May 7th 2023 at 2:13:59 PM

Currents are fine on both tropes.

RamenChef Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#6: May 7th 2023 at 2:37:25 PM

[up]x4 Maybe a tighter crop then? One where the other white door isn't visible?

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#7: May 7th 2023 at 2:41:51 PM

I feel like that'd be too small.

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FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
#8: May 7th 2023 at 3:17:40 PM

[up][up][up][up] I'd be behind moving it to that one, the current there is low-quality.

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StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
Captain of USS Bajor
#9: May 8th 2023 at 7:42:48 AM

The Key Is Behind the Lock is a subtrope of Catch-22 Dilemma so any image that illustrates the former would inherently illustrate the latter. That said, the suggestion does work better there.

I went looking for an image that would illustrate the Trope Namer and this is the best I could find:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/catch_22_study_guide.png
"That's some catch, that Catch-22."

Could do an edit later with bigger text but I have a final in fifteen minutes.

Edited by StarSword on May 8th 2023 at 10:43:53 AM

badtothebaritone (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Snooping as usual
#10: May 8th 2023 at 8:39:12 AM

[up] That seems to illustrate Morton's Fork more (to me, at least).

Edited by badtothebaritone on May 8th 2023 at 10:40:26 AM

petersohn from Earth, Solar System (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Hiding
#11: May 8th 2023 at 10:01:54 AM

The OP is better than the current on The Key Is Behind the Lock.

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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#12: May 8th 2023 at 11:07:24 AM

Yeah, that Catch-22 image is missing what makes this a Catch-22; specifically the fact that this rule is about sanity, and that asking to be taken off the missions due to insanity only proves you sane enough to keep flying. Basically, it lacks the context of why this dilemma is being posed at all, and what the "mentally fit" part is referring to.

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StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
Captain of USS Bajor
#13: May 8th 2023 at 11:28:05 AM

Made a version with the sane/insane text bigger and more legible.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/catch_22_study_guide.jpg

petersohn from Earth, Solar System (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Hiding
#14: May 8th 2023 at 11:30:42 AM

[up]I know it's the trope namer, but it still illustrates Morton's Fork better. The trope name isn't really good either, because the trope namer itself is a better example of Morton's Fork than this one.

The universe is under no obligation to make sense to us.
Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#15: May 11th 2023 at 9:14:02 AM

I saw this comic but it doesn't work with less than half. I can shoot the artist an email for it as they still seem to be active on social media.

Earnest from Monterrey Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#16: May 11th 2023 at 8:36:47 PM

[up] That's pretty neat, it's worth a shot, hopefully he answers.[tup]

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#18: May 15th 2023 at 7:54:26 PM

Votes bump, two compatible options in consensus range.

Synchronicity MOD (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#19: May 17th 2023 at 8:51:26 AM

4 days and the following options are in consensus range:

OP to The Key Is Behind the Lock. It's in and tagged, caption? Old pic:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/open-x-irony-in-a-plastic-package_9171.jpg
It's exactly what you need to unpack itself.

I've shot the artist a Twitter DM and an email for the upvoted pic on Catch-22 Dilemma. Old pic (now going on Multiple Threads):

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/1286384777089_4494.png

Synchronicity MOD (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#20: May 18th 2023 at 1:16:34 PM

I'll post about it in Pics awaiting permission. Closing for no caption discussion for The Key Is Behind the Lock.

Edited by Synchronicity on May 18th 2023 at 3:16:48 AM

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