While not attracting as much misuse as Condemned by History, Vindicated by History can still be misused in that:
1. It can be used to gush excessively about works that never made a splash and never really gained traction afterwards and otherwise over-exaggerate its achievements (like the Wii U entry, the ATT thread
I started about it inspiring me to start this thread)
2. It can be used to say "You know, this thing that was hated then and still hated today wasn't really that bad!"
3. It developed a small fanbase but not one big or influential enough that it redeemed the work in the public's eyes
5. Someone says "X is becoming this trope". That's not how it works. Either it was vindicated or it's not. If it's "becoming" this trope, wait until it does before adding.
6. It is confused with Popularity Polynomial
7. It violates the 5-year waiting period
Edited by supernintendo128 on Jul 23rd 2022 at 1:58:21 PM
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Id say Unleashed has been vindicated espically regarding the story and even he wearhog to an extent. IGN’s review trashing the game has done from the big piece of evidence against the game, to one of the worst reviews on the site with many Sonic fans placing it in their top 5, I’ve even seen some argue it better than Colors
As for riders, while the first game has definitely been vindicated Zero Gravity is still seen as mediocre with any discussions about it being snapcube refrences
Lucas the Dreamer
I'd say Unleashed might count purely because it used to be a venomously hated fandom punching bag and now it's more acceptable to like.
Why waste time when you can see the last sunset last?
Agreeing with Unleashed being Vindicated. It went from being one of the fandom's punching bags aking to Sonic 06 to what everyone else has already said, alongside the "Unleashed is underrated" no longer being a hot take thing.
Lucas the Dreamer
I was around, if a child, when Unleashed was a hot topic of fandom hatred and remember the Werehog being despised even in charitable reviews. Nowadays people are more able to appreciate the Werehog on its own merits rather than just bashing it. Literally nobody was defending the Werehog back in the early 2010s. Granted Unleashed is a personal favorite so I'm hardly the gospel.
Edited by TheLivingDrawing on Apr 14th 2024 at 4:55:13 AM
Why waste time when you can see the last sunset last?
Alright, I'll left in S&K soundtrack, Unleashed, and Riders 1 in the page. I'm mixed about Sonic the Fighters but I just can't find enough about its reception to do the same.
I think more people are receptive to the CONCEPT of a Sonic fighting game not that they nessecary like the game now
From YMMV.Bram Stokers Dracula:
- Vindicated by History: Divisive in its year of release, albeit commercially very successful, two decades hence it is considered a classic of visual effects, production design, cinematography, and style, with many considering it one of Coppola's best films and one of Gary Oldman's best performances. While there are still complaints and issues raised about the nature of its adaptation and its artistic choices, it's generally agreed that it was a movie that proved that there's still a lot of new ways to tell a story as overexposed as Dracula by reworking the source material. It's still the only Dracula adaptation to win any Academy Awards, it became a classic in the vampire movie genre, and it had a substantial influence on vampires in popular culture, especially in the popular Bloodborne. It also helps that Dracula's Faith–Heel Turn and fall from grace was an aspect of his backstory used for the incarnation of the character depicted in Castlevania, particularly from Symphony of the Night onwards
The film received several Oscar nominations, so I don’t know if had enough of a stigma upon release to count.
RJ Savoy
Agreed, it's still divisive, especially how Dracula/Mina is handled.
It's either real or it's a dream
It also got positive reviews upon release, without anyone really touching on how Dracula/Mina are handled since that wasn't a common talking point at the time. And Gary Oldman's version of Dracula has (for better or worse) become very influential as this figure of tragic gothic romance.
- Vindicated by History:
- The Super Saiyan 4 transformation was originally seen as a bit weird, and perhaps too much of a departure from the traditional Super Saiyan "look." After Battle of Gods and Resurrection 'F' revealed the divisive Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue, Super Saiyan 4 has gained back several fans who used to dislike the form due to it being both visually distinctive and harkening back to the old associations between Saiyans and apes.
- Back in the day, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who would so much as admit that they even liked GT. Nowadays, there are a lot more fans who can look fondly back on GT and consider that it got more hate than it deserved. Even a lot of its detractors find that there were aspects to GT that weren't awful, just executed poorly.
Feels like Sonic Unleashed's example better fits Critical Backlash, considering that fans are arguing the game is not as bad as critics make it out to be (FYI, the Metacritic scores are around 40~50). I can see how the reception is improved over time, but I disagree with that Unleashed is universally considered a legitimately good game because a lot of things in Unleashed like the boost gameplay and Werehog are still divisive. The Broken Base in YMMV.Sonic Unleashed and many other YMMV on the franchise demonstrate it. With some tweak the example can be put under Critical Backlash.
Any more opinion on Sonic Riders games?