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TheLivingDrawing Lucas the Dreamer from The Town of Clayton Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Lucas the Dreamer
#1: Mar 6th 2022 at 1:28:30 PM

Image is a 4 panel comic in it’s entirety that is difficult to read. The third or fourth panel or the first and second panels together of the comic might work as a replacement.

Edited by TheLivingDrawing on Mar 6th 2022 at 4:30:19 AM

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Synchronicity MOD (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#2: Mar 6th 2022 at 1:40:00 PM

Yup, it's pulled and tagged.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/changesociety_9.png
Why complain about society if you're in it?

I'm hesitant to use this comic at all because the message is that it's pointless to consider these people hypocrites just for living their lives in the first place.

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#3: Mar 6th 2022 at 1:42:30 PM

Right, the reason it's even become a meme is because the parody message is "but you live in society". I don't know who added it, but I feel like whoever did really missed the point.

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TheLivingDrawing Lucas the Dreamer from The Town of Clayton Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Lucas the Dreamer
#4: Mar 6th 2022 at 1:47:10 PM

[up][up] I mean, This Image Is Not an Example exists. Out of context the first two panels could still illustrate the trope.

Edited by TheLivingDrawing on Mar 6th 2022 at 4:47:34 AM

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FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#6: Mar 6th 2022 at 1:55:32 PM

...Of course I know TIINAE exists. But in this case using some form of it feels really loaded, so I'd rather not.

Edited by Synchronicity on Mar 6th 2022 at 3:55:48 AM

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#7: Mar 6th 2022 at 2:06:32 PM

I have a BUPKIS feeling about this since the trope consists of multiple parts that are already hard to illustrate individually without wall of quotes. Or a combination of an image, caption and an analytical note.

Edited by Amonimus on Mar 6th 2022 at 2:15:46 AM

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PurpleEyedGuma Since: Apr, 2020
#8: Mar 6th 2022 at 2:08:45 PM

I don’t even know who the “hypocrite” is supposed to be there.

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#9: Mar 6th 2022 at 2:10:04 PM

The context is that the phone user is supposedly a "hypocrite" for complaining about Apple's slave-labor factories, which obviously isn't all that hypocritical.

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TheLivingDrawing Lucas the Dreamer from The Town of Clayton Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Lucas the Dreamer
#10: Mar 6th 2022 at 2:12:20 PM

To be fair they could be an Android user. The phone manufacturer would probably still use Chinese slave labor so they’d actually be a hypocrite.

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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
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#11: Mar 6th 2022 at 2:14:02 PM

The point of the comic is that it's not hypocritical to complain about aspects of society that we don't really have a choice but to partake in. Phones and computers are too ubiquitous and necessary nowadays to just not have one, for example.

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FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
#12: Mar 6th 2022 at 2:22:47 PM

[up][up][up] The "hypocrisy" (in quotation marks because the whole joke of the strip is that the person pointing it out is just an annoying strawman rather than making any valid points) comes because they're using an iPhone, though that strikes me more as Guilt by Association to me.

[up][up] Not an Android user, the strip specifically identifies it as an iPhone on panel 2.

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TheLivingDrawing Lucas the Dreamer from The Town of Clayton Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Lucas the Dreamer
#13: Mar 6th 2022 at 3:22:09 PM

I meant that they could use Android instead of iPhone In response to someone saying that a smartphone was a necessity.

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Earnest from Monterrey Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#15: Mar 6th 2022 at 3:32:58 PM

Courtesy upload. src: July 20, 2017

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/calvinglobal_4.png

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petersohn from Earth, Solar System (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Hiding
#16: Mar 6th 2022 at 10:59:18 PM

Maybe panels 2+4 would be better for context?

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#17: Mar 12th 2022 at 6:37:08 PM

Crowner's hooked.

And I couldn't not respond to this point: using an Android phone does not actually make you significantly more ethical than using an Apple phone, so it does not discount you from the argument.

Edited by Synchronicity on Mar 12th 2022 at 8:39:10 AM

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#18: Mar 14th 2022 at 9:55:55 AM

Votes bump, three in the green.

Synchronicity MOD (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#19: Mar 16th 2022 at 7:54:29 AM

Calling for 15, it's in and tagged. Caption?

Earnest from Monterrey Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#20: Mar 16th 2022 at 8:10:16 AM

[up] "Let's compromise, you can chauffeur me on a palanquin."

TheUnsquished Filthy casual from Southern Limey Land (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Married to the job
Filthy casual
#21: Mar 16th 2022 at 8:21:55 AM

[up]Had to look up what that was.

(Annoyed grunt)
Earnest from Monterrey Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#22: Mar 16th 2022 at 8:45:37 AM

Would "rickshaw" be more in common knowledge? Failing that, "Let's compromise, you can carry me on your back instead."

FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#24: Mar 17th 2022 at 7:33:13 AM

[tup], it's added but not tagged. Locking.

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