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Chabal2 Fear me from Plains of Tolosa Since: Jan, 2010
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#1: Sep 19th 2020 at 2:20:44 PM

Selfish Good is currently a redirect for Not in This for Your Revolution and Jerk with a Heart of Gold, but I think it could be a trope on its own about characters who aren't evil, jerks, or even malicious or ill-intended (and are in fact quite helpful and friendly), but they are selfish in the sense of not considering the needs of/the consequences of their actions on others.

For example:

  • Gaston Lagaffe is an Animal Lover and willing to help out his coworkers, but he's a Bungling Inventor who frequently performs science experiments that affect or destroy most of his office building's floor without ever considering the effects on others (such as releasing knockout gas, or cranking up the radiators to make toast, or rerouting the radiators outside in the dead of winter so the birds wouldn't get cold...).
  • Christine in Maskerade is cheerful and genuinely friendly with her fellow bandmates, but so dim-witted and entirely self-centered she can't even process when people are telling her ridiculous lies like "my mother was a basket of raspberries".
  • Beasts of Nurgle in the Warhammer games are acid-spewing slugs bigger than horses with the personality of a Big Friendly Dog, and there's nothing they love better than running towards new people to hug them and squeeze them, and don't understand why their new friends don't want to play for very long.

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Edited by Chabal2 on Sep 19th 2020 at 11:22:06 AM

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#2: Sep 19th 2020 at 4:40:57 PM

Those examples all seem to fall into completely different tropes. In the third one, it's not even clear that these creatures are sapient and capable of moral choice.

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#3: Sep 19th 2020 at 5:25:04 PM

1 sounds like Absentminded Professor

2 is Kindhearted Simpleton

3 is Non-Malicious Monster?

I think there could still be room for "friendly but self centered" as a trope, though.

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#4: Sep 21st 2020 at 10:25:46 AM

[up]Secretly Selfish?

In any case, the name Selfish Good reads like a character who does good for selfish reasons, at least to me.

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#6: Sep 21st 2020 at 4:41:30 PM

@ OP: "selfish" is not just "not considering the needs of/the consequences of their actions on others". Selfishness has to be about prioritizing their own needs.

Though I think I know the right trope already: I've seen It's All About Me being used for nice guys who are full of themselves.

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