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Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#1: Feb 22nd 2020 at 4:41:15 PM

It's so tiny I have a hard time figuring out what's going on. This appears to be one evil "race" from Warhammer 40 K, whereas the trope is settings having five "stock evil" races with particular characteristics.

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#2: Feb 23rd 2020 at 8:14:40 PM

GIS completely tanked on finding a better version of the current; voting to pull regardless of replacement.

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#3: Feb 24th 2020 at 1:14:02 AM

I'll go with pull due to quality issues. I think I see what it's going for, though.

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#4: Feb 24th 2020 at 1:18:22 AM

Pull.

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MurlocAggroB from the second-most ridiculous province of Canada Since: May, 2015
#5: Feb 24th 2020 at 7:31:17 AM

The image does illustrate the trope - orc is humanoid, undead is eldritch, goblin is crafty, minotaur is savage, and Chaos Knight is fallen. It's just very poor quality.

I vote keep until we find a quality upgrade.

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#6: Feb 24th 2020 at 7:51:19 AM

[up] I've put a query in the Warhammer thread in the Tabletop Games forum, but I'm not holding my breath.

Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#7: Feb 24th 2020 at 7:57:39 AM

[up][up] It strikes me that the game depicted illustrates the trope, but the actual image doesn't.

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GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#8: Feb 24th 2020 at 8:39:04 AM

I'm not sure how image uploading works with this site, so linking this instead - would this suffice? https://drive.google.com/open?id=1NpS5U59cbxJZmgenSX8Rls0-JMa_aw6c

Incidentally, what I believe people are referring to as undead is actually a human.

Edited by GoldenKaos on Feb 24th 2020 at 4:39:45 PM

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SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#9: Feb 24th 2020 at 9:39:16 AM

[up]That is a better quality but now that it is bigger it is more obvious that it doesn't show all the races.

Would a collage of pics from various sources be appropriate here?

Theriocephalus Amateur Veteran from gimme a map and a moment and I can tell you Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#10: Feb 24th 2020 at 11:20:45 AM

[up]I think a collage might be appropriate, but it would need to show races from a single work. The trope's about an in-universe ensemble, after all — simply having a single archetype in a work doesn't fit the bill — and the image should reflect that.

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#11: Feb 24th 2020 at 11:21:47 AM

Pull the image regardless of replacement.

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SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#12: Feb 24th 2020 at 12:18:19 PM

Here is a collage of Warhammer: Age of Sigmar models I put together:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/fantasyaxis_collage1.png

It still needs work but it gets the idea across.

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#13: Feb 24th 2020 at 1:02:21 PM

[up] I like the idea, but it's a little awkward stacked like that. Here's those models rearranged and downsized a tetch.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/chaos2.png

[down] I feel your pain, but I don't have any tools handy to do so.

Edited by Willbyr on Feb 24th 2020 at 3:10:18 AM

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#14: Feb 24th 2020 at 1:04:26 PM

I could get behind that if not for the white background.

IK I complain about it all the time, but hey, someone has to care about Night Vision.

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Theriocephalus Amateur Veteran from gimme a map and a moment and I can tell you Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#15: Feb 24th 2020 at 1:39:32 PM

I could handle the background, but I'd need time and an image at a higher resolution than the site displays them at — I'm frankly still an amateur at image editing, and downscaling a large image is the best way I know of dealing with stray pixels.

Alternatively, I could just remake the collage myself. Where are the models' images from?

Edited by Theriocephalus on Feb 24th 2020 at 3:51:32 AM

SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#16: Feb 24th 2020 at 1:59:50 PM

[up]They are from various Games Workshop sites including here and here.

Theriocephalus Amateur Veteran from gimme a map and a moment and I can tell you Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#17: Feb 24th 2020 at 6:13:12 PM

How's this look? I'm worried the image size limits are kind of making the figures a bit too... crushed.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/evil_five.png

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#18: Feb 24th 2020 at 7:42:07 PM

[up] Yeah, that does seem a bit too squashed together.

Theriocephalus Amateur Veteran from gimme a map and a moment and I can tell you Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#20: Feb 24th 2020 at 11:00:37 PM

[up] That looks good.

A question I do have, based on how shoe-horned most of the examples are, is whether this particular combination of races is a trope in the first place. Maybe the description needs some work, or maybe some people know more good examples? Anyway that's not really a job for this forum.

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Theriocephalus Amateur Veteran from gimme a map and a moment and I can tell you Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#21: Feb 29th 2020 at 8:04:41 PM

So, uh, are we still thinking of replacing the image?

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#22: Feb 29th 2020 at 11:52:53 PM

These miniatures are not bad, but there are too many details which make them a bit confusing. I'd prefer a quality upgrade of the current, if someone has one available.

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Jokubas Since: Jan, 2010
#24: Mar 1st 2020 at 5:56:19 AM

[up][up][up][up] Yeah, it's not a good sign that the very first example says: "...features several evil races, but the ones that fit the mold..." I feel like this is a pattern, so I'm not worried about wasting time on the image picking, but the trope might need to get looked at.

Edit: After another quick glance, I'm not sure it's a pattern after all. I think it might have just been a couple of popular examples (that themselves eventually grew beyond). As categories the concept isn't terrible, but as a pattern it seems pretty shoehorned in.

Edited by Jokubas on Mar 1st 2020 at 6:07:03 AM

Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#25: Mar 1st 2020 at 6:06:02 AM

[up] It's on TRS (which currently has a five month waiting list, so don't get your hopes up).

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