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Honestly, if you hadn't provided that explanation, I'd've had no idea how the suggestion was supposed to fit. The current might not be great, but it's better than that.
^ What's wrong with the suggestion?
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Edited by Drope on Feb 16th 2020 at 12:23:41 PM
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The second link is borked; the first is pretty good.
Out of the suggestions, 4 might be the best - especially since it shows that the trope is applicable to non-Jewish stereotypes.
Out of the examples that show Jewish stereotypes, I actually like current better than 5. The character looks more "alien" and also has the stereotypical hat. Maybe a brightened version, or a different shot of the same character would do a better job of putting the beard and the hat into focus?
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Edited by Unnerving_Posterior on Feb 16th 2020 at 6:45:50 AM
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4.
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4 — it's clear on the "space" and the "ethnic group" and shows that the trope is more flexible than its name.
Actually, on second thought, 4 is more like Space Romans, so it might not work so well here. This trope is about national stereotypes, not simply national traits.
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" on. The large nose and unkempt beard are obviously meant to convey the anti-Semitic stereotype. If you're not aware of what I'm talking about, I wonder what rock you've been living under. Here is Wikipedia's article on the topic. Specific examples include The Kingdom of Shylock
◊ or this image from a 2018 Polish magazine.
While I could support changing the image, I won't without good reason. And I fail to see how the current image is not illustrative.
Edited by WaterBlap on Feb 17th 2020 at 12:23:06 PM
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$0.02 — certainly these stereotypes are widespread and well-known in Europe and America, but as someone who grew up in Asia I found the current rather subtle. Can it be strengthened with a comparison to a caricature?
Would the N'avi from Avatar work? It's a pretty common criticism that the movie is just Dances With Wolves with blue cat people.
To be honest, I never really gotten a clear idea of Jewish stereotypes with the traits you mentioned. I found the current a bit subtle, too.
No. This trope is about ethnic people, which includes native americans. As such, it is potentially more offensive by nature.
Ex: Space Jews, Space Black People, Space Asians...
Space Romans is the one that's about national stereotypes.
Ex: Space Australians, Space Cowboys, Space Egyptians, etc.
Native Americans are NOT a national stereotype, especially because they exist all throughout America, including Canada and Latin America.
Edited by Drope on Feb 17th 2020 at 4:19:19 AM
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To be honest, when I first opened Space Jews and saw that image my first thought was like "damn, he really is a Space Jew", so I vote to keep the current one.
The current is pretty (stereotypically) Jewish.
Edited by WackyPancake on Feb 18th 2020 at 12:31:21 PM
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I have a suggestion that better illustrates the Space Jews trope. Current doesn't have any obvious indicators that tell the viewer the image character is a Jew, but alien, apart from the caption.
In contrast, here's a simpler illustration featuring a multi-colored group of Yoshis who otherwise don't resemble any real-life races, whose brown-colored member sticks out for being the only one styled after a stereotypical black person, complete with Funny Afro.
Edited by Unnerving_Posterior on Feb 16th 2020 at 12:50:35 PM