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Berrenta Holiday Mode from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Aug 26th 2019 at 9:14:59 AM

Another "page for a meme masquerading as a trope" (the reason we no longer have the Red Zone Remix Vid page). It doesn't help that all on-page examples are weblinks.

Due to the information on page, we could salvage this as a Useful Note. Thoughts?

Brainulator9 Regular garden-variety troper. from US Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Regular garden-variety troper.
Aug 26th 2019 at 9:27:32 AM

I remember there being an Ask The Tropers post about this...

But seriously, I don't know if this is quite Useful Notes material, since I take that as being for real-world events that influence fiction. It might warrant something else, kind of like JustForFun.Rickroll.

I love when bad shows have great music. Sometimes, it can be worth the hassle of sitting through a bad work.
bitemytail from Arizona Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Aug 26th 2019 at 9:53:06 AM

Move to Just for Fun.

Health sure is versatile. It's possible to be both light-headed and dim-witted. At the same time, no less.
Berrenta Holiday Mode from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Aug 26th 2019 at 9:58:57 AM

I'm fine with JFF as well.

Brainulator9 Regular garden-variety troper. from US Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Regular garden-variety troper.
Aug 26th 2019 at 10:08:45 AM I love when bad shows have great music. Sometimes, it can be worth the hassle of sitting through a bad work.
bitemytail from Arizona Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Aug 26th 2019 at 10:15:34 AM

[up] Might also want a 'referenced by" page as well, to do something with works that reference the video.

Health sure is versatile. It's possible to be both light-headed and dim-witted. At the same time, no less.
Larkmarn Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Aug 26th 2019 at 10:24:44 AM

Whatever we do with Fan Vid, do with this. It's just a specific subtrope.

Aug 26th 2019 at 3:48:55 PM

The examples on this page can be moved to ReferencedBy.Caramell.

GastonRabbit Fueled by boredom from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Fueled by boredom
Aug 26th 2019 at 8:55:32 PM

Move to Just for Fun. I'm fine with moving examples to ReferencedBy/ (a sandbox would probably be useful for that).

I disagree with the idea of this being a proper subtrope of Fan Vid. "Fan Vid but for a specific song" is The Same, but More Specific.

The bullet point regarding memes on Administrivia.Not A Trope is relevant here.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 27th 2019 at 4:47:57 AM

Hindsight is 20/20, but my eyesight isn't.
Larkmarn Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Aug 27th 2019 at 5:55:12 AM

It's 100% The Same But More Specific.

Which is why Just for Fun doesn't really make sense to me.

Don't get me wrong, I'd totally bomb it in TLP and say don't bother, but with the page existing and having 3,500 inbounds, cutting isn't really an option. So making it inexplicably Just for Fun with no precedent or reasoning past "eeehhhhhhh?" is weird.

Though actually moving to Music.Caramell and turning the page as a redirect to keep inbounds makes sense.

Edited by Larkmarn on Aug 27th 2019 at 9:00:04 AM

GastonRabbit Fueled by boredom from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Fueled by boredom
Aug 27th 2019 at 6:02:13 AM

[up]The auto-disambig system would catch inbounds with a Just for Fun move. Even putting the redirect in the Music/ namespace (Music.Caramelldansen Vid) would catch inbounds and remove the need for it to be in Main/.

I'd be fine with cutting it completely instead of moving it to Just for Fun, but moving it out of Main/ has more support than cutting or merging it (including ATT posts from people who haven't posted in this thread). As for precedent, Rickroll was moved to Just for Fun fairly recently (link to TRS thread, which also had Useful Notes as its initial suggestion) and it had more inbounds than Caramelldansen Vid.

Red Zone Remix Vid apparently had only 444 inbounds before it was cut entirely (with the crowner at 15 yeas and only 1 nay), which isn't nearly as much as Rickroll or Caramelldansen Vid.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 27th 2019 at 8:52:03 AM

Hindsight is 20/20, but my eyesight isn't.
Berrenta Holiday Mode from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Aug 29th 2019 at 5:32:53 PM

Started a crowner; I'll go hook it.

GastonRabbit Fueled by boredom from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Fueled by boredom
Sep 3rd 2019 at 10:16:49 AM

Moving to Just for Fun has 9 yeas and 2 nays. Is it safe to call in favor of that?

Hindsight is 20/20, but my eyesight isn't.
Berrenta MOD Holiday Mode from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Sep 3rd 2019 at 10:28:02 PM

That's enough votes; let's go for it.

GastonRabbit Fueled by boredom from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Fueled by boredom
Sep 4th 2019 at 12:24:08 AM

Page moved and Main/ wicks cleaned. I moved the Main.Caramelldansen redirect to JustForFun.Caramelldansen and cutlisted the former.

I also added the page to Wick Namespace Migration.

Edit: Wicks cleaned. I think we're done.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Sep 4th 2019 at 2:49:36 PM

Hindsight is 20/20, but my eyesight isn't.
Berrenta Holiday Mode from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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