Captain Marvel - Spoilers

After becoming Binary, she was as powerful. And then she lost those powers and then she kind of regained them again. Her power level depends on how much energy she has absorbed — she's around Thor level unless she asks someone to shoot her with energy blasts so she can "go Binary."

Now Monica Rambeau is super OP, but it took her a while for her to figure it out.

Comics Carol has wrecked bigger space fleets than movie Carol. It’s kind of her thing.

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Outside her Binary form? That is a thing I was meaning to comment. From what I understand, such level of power is more associated to Binary, not Carol's default state.

Pretty sure it’s been in both Flying Brick and Binary form, though it’s not clear yet if the MCU makes any distinction between the two.

I don't think the MCU plans to make the distinction. My understanding of the character (which can be flawed, as I read very few of her own books) matches what alliterator described: Carol is pretty powerful, but not stupidly so. Around Thor level. But her Binary phase (and form if she absolves energy?) is cosmic Marvel levels, which another scale all together.

So what I get is that her movies pretty much just give her the Binary powers without actually calling her that.

Yeah, you can see it in the Skrull ship — as soon as she starts powering up, the lights start flickering on and off because she is absorbing the electricity.

That also provides an explanation for why she can't fight fleets by herself most of the time—she had absorbed the power of an Infinity Stone. She's always going to be powerful, but maybe not that powerful.

My understanding of that had been that the light was flickering because the Supreme Intelligence was trying to gather all the power it could to fight Carol. She does not seem to require any external power source (come to think of it, I don't think any superpowered character in the MCU was ever shown needing to recharge - I'm obviously not counting Iron Man here).

Edited by C105 on Mar 22nd 2019 at 12:49:40 PM

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Huh, when I was watching the movie, when I saw the power flickering on and off in the Skrull ship, I assumed it was indeed because she was absorbing all that power. Granted, I have read all of her Captain Marvel runs, so I could have just been projecting my understanding of her powerset in the comics onto what was actually going on. (shrug) Ah well, I'm sticking with this explanation unless proven otherwise.

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But can she charge people’s phones?

they might explode if she does that,and warranty does not cover it

New theme music also a box

@ The war: Given that Talos refers to himself as filthy I assumed the conflict was more even than a straight-up Skull slaughter, but the Kree still had the advantage and were in the wrong.

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I want to see an edit sometime where Talos finds these in Carol's memories and the Supreme Intelligence dances to the tune.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Mar 22nd 2019 at 10:38:34 AM

You left out the best one!

Edited by wisewillow on Mar 22nd 2019 at 1:40:28 PM

People say Captain Marvel is a Great Feminist Film Victory like there wasn't a whole "small woman With Bare Feet beats up large goons" scene like Joss Whedon never left the MCU.

Goose was charming though

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I have several problems with this statement:

1. Who, exactly, are the people declaring the film a "Great Feminist Film Victory"? So far, of the reviews, I've heard people say that it's a okay film or it's a pretty good film, with some saying that it's great, but I've never heard anyone declare it a "Great Feminist Film Victory." (The box office, on the other hand, certainly a victory for female-led films.)
2. "Woman with bare feet beating up people" is certainly a trope that Whedon likes, but I've never heard it criticized before, particularly because the way Whedon frames the actor's feet isn't sexualized like, say, Quentin Tarantino's barefeet shots are. In fact, the only fight scene I can remember that happening in in the MCU is from the beginning of The Avengers when Natasha is forced to fight without her shoes and most people love that fight scene.
3. The other difference between Whedon's "female fight scenes without shoes" and this movie's fight scene without shoes is that this film isn't directed by Joss Whedon. It is, in fact, directed by Anna Boden and Ryan Fleck, one of whom is a woman and thus approved of all of the shots in the film, including the barefoot ones. If you take a look at the Natasha fight scene in the beginning of The Avengers and the Carol-Skrulls fight scene in Captain Marvel, you can see that they are vastly different and that Carol's bare feet aren't as focused upon as Natasha's are.
4. It's the setup to a joke: Carol returns to the Skrull control room to grab her boots, ignoring the Skrulls that are still there.

Edited by alliterator on Mar 23rd 2019 at 1:31:46 AM

The Natasha fight scene was neat. The Avengers is not a film with feminism as a central theme like Captain Marvel became it is an ensemble film centered around six men and one woman. One scene does not “feminist” make.

Is it just me or are there recently troper whose names I have never read before popping up, saying something along the line of "this isn't as feminist as it should be because…" and then vanishing again once the pushback happens?

Otherwise I really don't see how the Black Widow scene in The First Avengers is in any way similar to Captain Marvel's fight without shoes. Starting with the set-up. The idea behind the Black Widow scene is that she let herself getting captured so that she can act as damsel in distress while interrogating her target. The idea behind the Captain Marvel scene is that Carol wakes up in captivity and immediately starts to struggle and fight with everything she had. Black Widow is from start to finish in control of the situation and the main reason why she is only grabbing the shoes in the last minute is because it is extremely difficult to fight in high heels. When she grabs her shoes it says "this is a woman who wears high heels to project a specific image but she can fast discard it if she needs to be something else". When Carol does it it means "now that she has gotten rid of he shackles she is back in control, this is no longer a desperate struggle".

Plus, I didn't even notice that Carol was bare food before they demanded the boots back.

A search of his name shows that he has posted before for a while.

To paraphrase Freud: "Sometimes bare feet are simply bare feet."

My favorite use of bare feet, however, is John McClane's in Die Hard, since it starts off as a joke and then becomes brutal when he has to walk through broken glass.

Then it is most likely just me.

Ah, the interrogation fight scene in The Avengers, where Natasha’s wavy red hair somehow knocks a guy on his ass. Also she gets punched in the face by a grown man and not a mark is left on her.

Contrast with CM where Vers gets a busted lip while fending off the Skrulls.

Natasha is certainly more sexualized and even more fetishized in that fight scene. There’s the slinky little black dress and cleavage, but Whedon also focuses ground level on her feet as she walks away. That doesn’t happen with Boden and Fleck.

A man can't joke about a scene with characteristics similar to scenes, that when Whedon or Tarantino directed them, were obvious cases of Local Director With Foot Fetish Goes Horny On Main?

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Perhaps it's because I've seen Tarantino films where a woman's bare feet really are sexualized, but that never struck me during Natasha's fight. But yes, Boden and Fleck's fight scene goes much differently — which, again, shows their different fighting styles, too, as Natasha is very much a smooth and efficient fighter, while Carol is a brawler.

Carol wasn't a female action hero. She was an action hero who happened to be female. The difference being that there was no Waif-Fu used, at no point did she play on assumed gender roles, she just kicked, punched and blasted her way through fights in the same way that (for arguments sake) Thor would have done.

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