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Deadlock Clock: Mar 3rd 2019 at 11:59:00 PM
Acebrock He/Him from So-Cal Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: My elf kissing days are over
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#1: Jan 19th 2019 at 9:48:52 PM

Should be a quickie...

This is basically a page about a news practice for dating. It has no examples, and doesn't seem to be a trope, so much as a practice with a short page dedicated to it in the main namespace.

I propose we just move it to the Useful Notes namespace and be done with it.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2: Jan 20th 2019 at 12:58:13 AM

Opening, but the proposed action isn't the correct one IMO. This is a paratext thing as it tells us information about a story, not a Real Life factoid and hence not an Useful Notes thing. It should perhaps have Discussed Trope examples, though.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#3: Jan 20th 2019 at 3:55:04 AM

And while we are at it, it should get a rename, or the series sharing the name should get one.

GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
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#4: Jan 20th 2019 at 6:46:39 AM

[up]Why not move the show to Series.Dateline NBC if there's a naming conflict? It's already called that offsite.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 20th 2019 at 8:47:07 AM

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rjd1922 he/him | Image Pickin' regular from the United States Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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#5: Jan 20th 2019 at 7:24:04 AM

Is it really a problem that it shares the same name as a work? We already have other examples, like Clock Tower and VideoGame.Clock Tower. None of them share namespaces (YMMV is obviously about the work, while Playing With, if it existed, would be about the trope).

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#6: Jan 20th 2019 at 9:34:42 AM

I don't think we have a policy in place for this, it's simply opportune to get both out of the way of each other given the wick situation.

WaterBlap Blapper of Water Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#7: Jan 20th 2019 at 9:43:59 AM

RE: Dateline: I'd support a rename for the trope since it's not thriving (58 inbounds, 12 wicks) and I personally prefer tropes to have at least two words in their names for CamelCase purposes.

Regardless, the description needs work. It's a weird Example as a Thesis. It could just describe to us what a dateline is and how it's used. Examples could be left for, as Septimus mentioned, discussed trope examples, but also for uses in Freeze-Frame Bonus or the like, where the dateline in the fictional article is the release date of the work it's in.

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bitemytail from Arizona Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#8: Jan 21st 2019 at 10:23:09 AM

Proposal: Cut Dateline for now, and take the concept to TLP to see if we can expand this into a trope.

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WaterBlap Blapper of Water Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#9: Jan 21st 2019 at 10:54:42 AM

It's already a trope as is. It just needs a better description, at the very least, and possibly a better name.

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Acebrock He/Him from So-Cal Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: My elf kissing days are over
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#10: Jan 21st 2019 at 6:22:55 PM

We could run it through the tlp without cutting it. I know it's been done before. It would make it easier to build the page.

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bitemytail from Arizona Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#11: Jan 21st 2019 at 9:16:28 PM

I personally doubt that the TLP will succeed, which is why I prefer cutting first.

Health sure is versatile. It's possible to be both light-headed and dim-witted. At the same time, no less.
GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#12: Jan 31st 2019 at 12:59:21 AM

If sending this back to TLP is what ends up being done, I'd prefer cutting and sorting everything else out on TLP.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 31st 2019 at 2:59:57 PM

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SeptimusHeap MOD from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#13: Feb 28th 2019 at 10:10:49 PM

Clock is set.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#14: Mar 5th 2019 at 11:28:29 PM

Clock is up; closing.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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