Definition of HornyDevils

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There's been a discussion in ATT regarding the definition of this trope, and I think it should be discussed here. The main question is: this trope refers to succubi / incubi in general, or a specific subset of them that fulfills the 4 "baseline rules" for modern succubi listed in the article, listed below?

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1. They have a supernatural sense of seduction.
2. They must feed through sexual contact.
3. They have to be incredibly attractive (or at least project that appearance to their victim).
4. Usually of the equal-opportunity sort and, most times, your gender is of no importance to them, be they male, female, or other themselves.

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While I have no association with the particular example set in the ATT thread, I'm still a stakeholder in this issue, as I am a major editor for Interviews with Monster Girls, which includes two cases of where inclusion into this trope depends on this question. To avoid hijacking an ATT thread or Is This An Example thread, I'd rather pose the question more generally.

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Note: Just as Our Monsters Are Different, Our Horny Devils would also be Different.

A succubus/incubus from work A may have different details in work B. Or, what work A calls as "succubi/incubi" may have different name in work B, but they have a lot of similarities. Like that.

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Well, I might as well point out why I have an stake in this and what an succubus REALLY is.

Besides, it would defeat the point of the trope if they weren't after sex.

Edited by RabidTanker on Dec 8th 2018 at 6:50:36 AM

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I dont think point 2 or point 4 are really needed, its just something that might happen. Our Monsters Are Different after all.

The big point with monster tropes is describing exactly how the monster conforms and does not conform with stereotypes. Some might be wildly unique but still get called that monster or the monster with a twist.

Interviews With Monster Girls uses 1 and 3 but specifically deconstruct those in a modern viewpoint of trying to live a normal life. It does so with Vampires, Yuki-onna and Dullahan too.

Sakie has grown up with an extreme fear of her own 'powers' and society itself basically has her on a sex offender watchlist for even existing. She sleeps hours away from the city in a lone building in a field cause her sleeping would give anyone around her wet dreams and she physically cant touch ANYONE or else she will make them massively horny to the point they might sexually assault her. Once she actually finds someone she likes she is fighting the Covert Pervert instincts at every turn.

EDIT: Your Vampires Suck basically, there should be a more general version of this trope but for all monster types.

Edited by Memers on Dec 9th 2018 at 7:16:47 AM

Rule 5 - They're specifically called succubi or incubi, or one of various similar creatures from other world mythologies.

But yeah, treat it as a case of Our Monsters Are Different. There'll be cases where a given example meets a subset of the qualifications but not others, leading to some cases where two separate examples might in fact not overlap at all. That's okay.