Politics in Media - The Good, the Bad, and the Preachy

Why do i feel that old sexism is the reason why people are more likely to believe that husband was the abuser than his wife.

Terry Crews had a really good story about this involving his own sexual abuse instance. Basically in his, his abuser was an older white guy and if he fought back, Scary Black Man comes into play. And him talking about it(at the time, will elicit laughter and ridicule as no one would believe that big tough looking Crews would get sexually harrased or assaulted. There have been articles about male abuse of all kinds being MASSIVELY underreported due to the stigma of not being "man enough" to fight back, how lucky they were it was a hot chick, etc. Sexism likely played a part in that and this was also at the height of the Me Too! movement so that likely played a role in why it was so reported and why no one wanted to revisit it after the stuff on Heard came out INCLUDING a past allegation by an ex girlfriend of Heard's of abusive behavior and having lied about a cop arresting her for homophobia only for the cop to turn out to be lesbian and a prominent member of her towns LGBTQA organizations.

it dosent help that Me too have a very awkard moment when they report asia argento abuse someone and them paid to kept it quiet.

In general the left while being better at self policing, does get at times in position when the let their own imagine get better of them in a "sure we did it, but is very different" or a "we deserve sympathy" in a "I can explain you" type of excuse.

In short, the left is suffering from a case of He Who Fights Monsters.

Sometimes, yeah.

Left-wing bigotry exists. It's not as prevalent as right-wing bigotry, but it's definitely a problem.

It's unrealistic to expect that any group, especially one as large as "the left" will be perfect. That's why self-policing is important.

That implies that the left is largely doing the same things as the right is, which even in the most uncharitable readings of the left would not make them equal, especially given that the left does not hold a significant amount of hegemonic power, even in media.

I mean, I’m finding people calling the #Diaper Don joke for being ableist.

I mean the big difference seems to be that central figures on the right actively encourage this kind of behaviour.

The disgusting shitstorm mentioned last Twitter page f.e., which also had a lot of racist elements to it, was certainly not endorsed or encouraged by any left-wing politician.

kinda but not kinda, I will said the left does engage in the same behavor of the right but that means what behavor of right.

In general I will said the left at times act closer to typical moralistic, "there are two way to act: my way and the wrong way" right wing you used to see back in the 90 while the right somehow sink in this uber nihilistic "Im right because I said im" that is now.

And I mean, the left have always have this sense of belivnig themselves the best system or a least the least unjust but I will said in US at least the left have change something because they are not longr a bunch of feminisn in university collage watiing to someone to heard them, they are becoming more and more mainstrain and they are here to stay.

The thing is hoping the left understand this and act acordingly.

I feel the main issue lies on right wingers that will become and more uncompatible with democracy because Society Marches On.

Edited by KazuyaProta on Nov 28th 2020 at 3:10:13 PM

Kinda? is obvious now that the left is getting more and more prevalent and mainstrain which force the right to become more and more conter cultural as it time move on.

Bullshit! Nothing is forcing them to go further right. They choose to. They've been going further and further right for decades, and they know that democrats are going to follow them.

I think people really missed how WEIRD and BIZARRE it was the Republicans hated Clinton so much that they spent years and years trying to get him impeached. Clinton was a centrist politician and not particularly far from their demographics but they hated him with a passionate disgusting fury.

Why?

Because he.was.not.them.

They're criminals and have been enemies of democracy for a long time.

Even before the Lewinsky scandal?

Edited by windleopard on Nov 29th 2020 at 4:02:09 AM

I might be misremembering, but Newt Gingrich was pretty open about hating and wanting to obstruct him from the get-go. A lot of the current toxic partisanship of the GOP where they act like spoiled brats is due to Gingrich's influence.

Gingrich was the worst about it, but the GOP as a whole was really butthurt over Bill Clinton making H.W. Bush a one-term President.

The GOP had become something of an Entitled Bastard over the WH during the Reagan years.

Edited by M84 on Nov 29th 2020 at 9:54:18 PM

Hey, I just came across a relevant meme◊ the other day.

I get the feeling History is gonna repeat itself with the GOP and the Bidens. Then again I also expect the (one sided?)blood feud to also target the Obamas for slightly different reasons.

Edited by MorningStar1337 on Nov 29th 2020 at 6:18:08 AM

@windleopard: The Lewinsky thing was only really found out because they seemed to be looking for something, anything, that would stick, IIRC. The impeachment was ridiculously partisan.

And if they cared for the sanctity of marriage or the decorum of the Oval Office, they would never have nominated Trump, let alone spent four years licking his boots. It was just the first thing they managed to make stick.

Edited by RedSavant on Nov 29th 2020 at 9:43:13 AM

The Lewinksky thing was an outgrowth of a lengthy investigation into every single one of Bill's previous banking transactions—which turned into an investigation of his sex partners because they didn't find any dirt. It was a years long sleazy process that eventually led to Monica.

And he only perjured himself DURING the investigation.

Why did Clinton beat Bush in '92 if Republicans were so popular? Was Ross Perot really that big a factor?

Well yeah. 18,9 % of votes went to him. And I doubt that that many Democract-leaning voters voted for him.

Bush Senior lost a lot of his popularity because of raised taxes.

Also, Clinton was just that charismatic and likable.

H.W. also carried a bunch of baggage from Reagan he never shed.