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VeryVileVillian Bringer of Plagues from Russia Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Bringer of Plagues
Nov 27th 2020 at 1:11:45 PM "I shall reap a terrible bounty from the death that I sow in your name. Father Nurgle..."
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany
Foreign Troper
Nov 27th 2020 at 1:35:49 PM

Jesus Christ, I always hated Crowder, but this is a whole new low. What a scumfuck. And he is actually in the Partner Program?

I can't think of any reason other than Youtube deeming him "too big" to risk a possible legal fight by banning him.

Belief Makes You Stupid indeed.
KazuyaProta Porky from A Industrial Farm Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Porky
Nov 27th 2020 at 1:41:33 PM

[up][up][up] Those discourses at least tend to have a internal logic, this doesn't.

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Nov 27th 2020 at 1:57:15 PM

[up][up] he harassed a gay journalist obsessively and got a slap on the wrist. You Tube is actively encouraging him.

Nov 27th 2020 at 2:00:17 PM

If there is one thing that these anti-PC crowd do competently, is turning the narrative of the "PC Police" or "Cancel Culture" to the left when it is the handiwork of the moral guardians on the right with their usual plea of please think of the children in the west because I'm sure those fuckers don't know or care about the censorship done in non-western states and in the west, the moral guardians of the right are the culprit.

Heck, those fuckers censure Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker! But do those anti-PC crowd talk about it? Nope, they just whine about why they can't say the N-word, mock the LGBT people, objectify women, and so on. It also does not help that calling out something is equated to censorship by not only those anti-PC crowd but also the useful idiots.

[up][up] I have reservation thinking "internal" logic as logic. Not to mention, the anti-PC crowd's logic tend to be in a nutshell: "It does not offend or hurt me, so it is okay."

Edited by SteamKnight on Nov 27th 2020 at 5:01:50 PM

I'm not as witty as I think I am. It's a scientifically-proven fact.
VeryVileVillian Bringer of Plagues from Russia Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Bringer of Plagues
Nov 27th 2020 at 2:01:54 PM

[up][up][up][up]As i said in the Racism thread, i am surprised that You Tube still keeps their partnership with him, like they block and delete any account they suspect on copyrighting content to insane degrees, but allow white supremacists and assholes, who offer nothing more than a hate speech and bigoted slurs, to run wild with their "white genocide" theories.

"I shall reap a terrible bounty from the death that I sow in your name. Father Nurgle..."
KazuyaProta Porky from A Industrial Farm Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Porky
Nov 27th 2020 at 2:05:18 PM

[up][up] I mean the Libertarian-esque people that use Demolition Man as a example of PC culture.

Is bizarre how its description is like "Its really nice but damn, they can't deal with the psycho from a chaotic era" when others description of Political Correctness Gone Mad simply have things being, like, actually bad.

Edited by KazuyaProta on Nov 27th 2020 at 5:05:47 AM

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CharlesPhipps Author from Ashland, Ky Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
Author
Nov 27th 2020 at 2:54:00 PM

The people who complain about cancel culture want absolute freedom to insult people and not get called out for it in return.

Author of Agent G, The Supervillainy Saga, Cthulhu Armageddon, The United States of Monsters.
devak They call me.... Prophet Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
They call me.... Prophet
Nov 27th 2020 at 3:02:55 PM

[up]Every time there's a free speech warrior going on about cancel culture you just scroll down 3 tweets and they're trying to cancel their critics. It was never about free speech but about them having all the say and their opponents none.

erazor0707 The Unknown Unknown Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Unknown Unknown
Nov 27th 2020 at 3:05:45 PM

"Rules for thee, not for me."

Copyright? Plz, I'm a troper.
Mio
Nov 27th 2020 at 4:50:03 PM

It's funny because, "cancel culture" (long after "cancel" had been appropriated from black twitter, no unlike "woke") was something that was first described by leftists to describe stuff that was going on in leftist spaces (something, something Exiting the Vampire Castle). In fact "cancel culture" videos could almost be their own genre in lefttube.

I personally was always wary of this concept since it always seemed like it could be an easy excuse people with enough social clout could use to dismiss any criticism of them. . .which is exactly how the right uses it.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany
Foreign Troper
Nov 27th 2020 at 5:01:09 PM

Speaking of the whole "Cancel Culture" thing, I somehow must've completely missed it, what was that fuss regarding Chris Pratt about on Twitter, 1 month ago? A lot of MCU actors came to his defense and.....well, like I said, I don't know what exactly it was about, but these answers from folks are pretty disgusting

https://twitter.com/Dataracer117/status/1318779555994218497

Nothing really justifies the above abuse, especially the racial slurs towards Saldana, but what was the reason for this? Did Pratt do something racist himself?

Belief Makes You Stupid indeed.
vicarious vicarious from NC, USA
vicarious
Nov 27th 2020 at 5:02:26 PM

More assumption and projection iirc

Nov 27th 2020 at 5:43:27 PM

Frankly, I love the fact that Robert Evans talks about right wing grifters similar to Crowder on his Behind the Bastards podcast. His most recent episode was about Dave Rubin.

TheWildWestPyro Now living in the US. from Hong Kong Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
Now living in the US.
Nov 27th 2020 at 6:14:18 PM

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Chris is quietly conservative the same way RDJ is. What happened is that he recently joined and tweeted some stuff from a conservative church that was linked to homophobic statements from the head pastor and others. Chris himself didn't say a word, but his tweets were promoting the church, which folks saw as him being guilty by association.

There was also a fan poll where he was voted 'worst Chris' that people took seriously.

Edited by TheWildWestPyro on Nov 27th 2020 at 6:17:39 AM

Funny how the world works.
Draghinazzo My love, has dressed me like a clown Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
My love, has dressed me like a clown
Nov 27th 2020 at 6:24:20 PM

Downey consented to appear in an anti-trump ad and cares about climate change enough to adopt a vegan diet, so to me that at most suggests he's a moderate conservative, i.e one that's not completely disconnected from reality.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Nov 27th 2020 at 11:28:54 AM

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine. ...not really though.
KazuyaProta Porky from A Industrial Farm Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Porky
Nov 27th 2020 at 6:25:43 PM

@Mio: I mean, the Right didn't got it from nowhere, is not like they are completely isolated from knowing what's going on. Jokes about communists purging each other in the never ending search for ideological purity are common.

[up][up] Pretty much

Edited by KazuyaProta on Nov 27th 2020 at 9:25:54 AM

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TheWildWestPyro Now living in the US. from Hong Kong Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
Now living in the US.
Nov 27th 2020 at 6:46:35 PM

Chris is proudly pro-gun and a devout Christian, and contributed to Obama's 2012 reelection campaign, but that's all we really know. Very recently he revealed that his family depended on food banks growing up, and there was no shame in it - that he was glad to have that help, basically throwing doubt on the bootsraps mentality.

Chris is otherwise very open about everything else outside politics, and really enjoys doing and talking about his work.

Edited by TheWildWestPyro on Nov 27th 2020 at 6:55:47 AM

Funny how the world works.
eagleoftheninth Be seeing you. from The Grandest Bookshop in the World Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Be seeing you.
Nov 27th 2020 at 6:55:23 PM

Everyone who's old enough to have been on this site when it was still 50% a Firefly fansite would've remembered how we all felt when Adam Baldwin took a hard right turn into a homophobic, Gamergate-bellowing right-libertarian.

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CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
Nov 27th 2020 at 7:37:41 PM

Adam Baldwin comes across as the stereotypical pugnaciously stupid wannabe tough-guy libertarian who thinks both parties are the same. Like, he's basically a pea-brained grunt who, by some twist of fate, became an actor.

The same people you chided in 2008 for taking South Park's depiction of liberals seriously are the ones you're disgusted with in 2020 for supporting Donald Trump.

Edited by CrimsonZephyr on Nov 27th 2020 at 10:40:34 AM

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
Nov 27th 2020 at 7:54:44 PM

Let's face it, statistically, some celebs are going to conservative, and personally, I am fine with that, as long as they are not trolls like James Woods. I do not have to agree with an actor to enjoy their work.

M84 TIL Aromantics had a flag too from Our little blue planet Relationship Status: Chocolate!
TIL Aromantics had a flag too
Nov 27th 2020 at 7:55:36 PM

Separating artist from the art is pretty easy if you're not part of the groups they marginalize, I suppose.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Draghinazzo My love, has dressed me like a clown Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
My love, has dressed me like a clown
Nov 27th 2020 at 7:56:45 PM

I mean, it depends on the specifics of their views. I don't have to agree with someone on everything, but basic respect for civil rights is a pretty fair line to draw which a lot of "conservatives" these days are failing.

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine. ...not really though.
Nov 27th 2020 at 8:01:04 PM

[up][up] I think whether that is true depends on the actor and the views they choose to express publically, I have not seen a lot of evidence that Chris Pratt or RDJ are reactionaries the way James Woods or Adam Baldwin is.

Nov 27th 2020 at 8:04:26 PM

Wasn't the Chris Pratt thing just his fans being upset that he was voted the least attractive guy named Chris? The religion stuff had already been known for a while.


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