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chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
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#401: Sep 16th 2019 at 9:54:00 PM

Maybe he meant "Joe Kerr"?

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#402: Sep 16th 2019 at 11:59:30 PM

Alright, fair is fair. Phillips' comments regarding how they approached the material and the fact that Batman: TAS is referenced is another hopeful sign. One minor concern I had was how the film seemed to bear little resemblance to its roots outside of the very basics (Killer Clown, rich family with named the Waynes, premise slightly echoing Killing Joke, etc.).

But this new information alleviates that concern quite a bit. I'm hoping the movie will be something like Chris Nolan's Dark Knight Trilogy. A movie that, on the surface, seems to be a nominal adaptation but is much more faithful than it looks.

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#403: Sep 17th 2019 at 3:12:44 AM

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#404: Sep 19th 2019 at 11:50:48 AM

Joker is looking to trounce Venom for the record of "highest-grossing opening weekend in October" with an opening of $82 million vs. Venom's $80.2 million.

To add insult to injury, Joker's budget is half that of Venom's.

As someone who's steamed at Sony for reasons that will go unsaid here, this raises my spirit.

Beatles1963 Since: Jun, 2019
#405: Sep 19th 2019 at 8:38:08 PM

[up] How would this hurt Sony exactly?

Andrei_Bondoc Since: Jan, 2019
#406: Sep 19th 2019 at 10:00:50 PM

[up][up]~Targetmaster Joe: I get it. Sony Pictures bad. But you don't need to declare them as your mortal enemies because Spider-Man isn't (seemingly) in the MCU anymore. They have done Spider-Man movies generally well even though they made some controversial decisions lately. You're starting to worry me...

[up]He think it will hurt Sony Pictures because Venom (2018) could be dethroned at the "best October box-office records ever" part by Joker (2019).

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#407: Sep 19th 2019 at 10:35:48 PM

Nobody cares about losing the October records. It’s a dump month for festivals and Halloween movies.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Sep 19th 2019 at 10:36:04 AM

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#408: Sep 20th 2019 at 12:40:17 AM

Plus Sony will already have made all the money by setting the record in the first place. They wouldn't suddenly lose the money because another film (might) break the record.

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#410: Sep 20th 2019 at 4:41:14 AM

Stepping away from Twitter is never a bad idea.

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#411: Sep 20th 2019 at 5:40:47 AM

Never using Twitter is an even better idea.

Hmmm, I should tweet this.

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#412: Sep 20th 2019 at 4:01:33 PM

Basic consensus: It's an amazing movie that's very well acted, but there will be worry that people will take it the wrong way like Fight Club, though that isn't the movies fault.

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#413: Sep 20th 2019 at 10:06:35 PM

Two new posters for the film have been released.

Personally, these are vast improvements over the earlier posters which I feel are rather bland, generic, and (aside from the staircase one) fairly uninteresting.

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
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#414: Sep 24th 2019 at 10:03:09 AM

Victims of the Aurora Shooting have signed an open letter to Warner Bros with their concerns about Joker (2019) and have asked the studio to donate to groups that support victims of gun violence.

Notably, the Aurora theater will not be showing screenings of Joker out of respect for the victims.

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#415: Sep 24th 2019 at 11:59:16 AM

Loved that article. I think it raised an especially significant point about the movie possibly triggering survivors of mass shootings, the Aurora shooting in particular. I didn't even think of that until I read this.

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#416: Sep 24th 2019 at 12:17:40 PM

This is definitely the Fight Club of the New 10s, that's for sure.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#417: Sep 24th 2019 at 1:01:57 PM

[up]I've seen more talk of a Misaimed Fandom for this movie than an actual misaimed fandom that has manifested.

Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#418: Sep 24th 2019 at 1:06:45 PM

Isn't any movie featuring gun violence susceptible to trigger survivors, though?

Now I agree that it would be a considerate move to donate to victim groups.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#419: Sep 24th 2019 at 1:08:55 PM

Well, it hasn't released yet.

BTW, my sister said there's been a certain ilk of people complaining that Arthur's Love Interest being a black woman is typical "SJW Propaganda".

No clue what to make of that, other than the people involved being dicks, but that's hardly news.

[up]Good PR, if nothing else.

Edited by HailMuffins on Sep 24th 2019 at 5:13:15 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#420: Sep 24th 2019 at 1:12:00 PM

Isn't any movie featuring gun violence susceptible to trigger survivors, though?
It's not just gun violence, it's the fact that the Aurora shooter literally dressed like the Joker.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#421: Sep 24th 2019 at 1:30:48 PM

[up] No he did not. This inaccuracy repeatedly gets bandied about to specifically tie the shooter's motivation to the Joker and bolster people's arguments that this movie's mere existence is a bad thing.

Holmes then went to his car, which was parked near the exit door, changed into protective clothing, and retrieved his guns.[9][10] About 30 minutes into the movie, police say, around 12:30 a.m.,[11] he reentered the theater through the exit door. He was dressed in black and wore a gas mask, a load-bearing vest (not to be confused with a bulletproof vest), a ballistic helmet, bullet-resistant leggings, a bullet-resistant throat protector, a groin protector, and tactical gloves.

Edited by windleopard on Sep 24th 2019 at 1:35:55 AM

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#422: Sep 24th 2019 at 1:44:06 PM

[up] Was about to post this myself. That's long been debunked.

That being said, this is still a movie about a guy who snaps one day and goes on to kill people. A Batman related movie nonetheless. I absolutely sympathize with the Aurora survivors who have an issue with this.

I should also point out that none of the people who signed the letter, nor the letter itself, suggested boycotting the movie or that WB hold off on releasing it. Just that WB consider donating to groups that support gun violence victims.

Edited by 1upmushroom on Sep 24th 2019 at 1:46:14 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#423: Sep 24th 2019 at 2:12:25 PM

[up][up] I mean, the mug shot they took immediately afterwards didn't help, with his hair completely dyed red like a clown.

In any case, U.S. Military Issues Warning to Troops About Incel Violence at Joker Screenings.

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#424: Sep 24th 2019 at 2:15:16 PM

Holy shit now the military is officially against incels. [lol]

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#425: Sep 24th 2019 at 2:22:39 PM

I mean, the mug shot they took immediately afterwards didn't help, with his hair completely dyed red like a clown.

Last I checked, the Joker doesn't have red hair.

[up] I see that as a good thing.

Edited by windleopard on Sep 24th 2019 at 2:23:21 AM


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