Follow TV Tropes

Following

Resident Evil

Go To

Trainbarrel Submarine Chomper from The Star Ocean Since: Jun, 2023 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Submarine Chomper
#8901: Mar 17th 2024 at 4:53:31 AM

[up] Would honestly make sense.

After all, why would Spencer, who considers himself "worthy of Godhood", settle for any genetic building blocks "inferior" to his own to use in Project W?

...

Also, this might just be imagination, but considering that Spencer got the idea of Project W from his encounter with The Mold, one could only wonder if he named the project as such by turning the "M" in "Mold" upside-down into a "W" instead.

"If there's problems, there's simple solutions."
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#8902: Mar 17th 2024 at 4:56:31 AM

It also adds another level to their Freudian Excuse.

Not that they needed much more of one.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Queen of Good Things, Honest
#8903: Mar 17th 2024 at 5:43:13 AM

Of course, what really set Albert off the deep end was Spencer revealing his origins.

"Are you saying I was manufactured?"

His Evil Plan in RE 5 is very much an attempt to prove he's his own man and not, as Chris so bluntly put it, "just another one of Umbrella's leftovers".

His theme song's title is "Winds of Madness" for good reason.

Which has always been kinda weird to me. Resident Evil 5 feels like the point where they realized, after mystery-boxing Wesker for the entire series thus far, they had no idea where they were actually going with this. So they just swapped in Sephiroth so they could wrap him up and go do something else.

My Tumblr. Currently liveblogging Haruhi Suzumiya and revisiting Danganronpa V3.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#8904: Mar 17th 2024 at 6:25:43 AM

I think they just wanted to avoid making Albert Wesker the focal character of the series. Hence the decision to finally kill him off.

Disgusted, but not surprised
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#8905: Mar 17th 2024 at 6:34:59 AM

I think hindsight may be influencing things.

Wesker was brought back to be the main villain of the franchise by Code: Veronica but had previously been Killed Off for Real. Five was meant to be his big grand finale because two games building him up was considered a pretty good lead in to the grand finale.

You eventually have to pull the trigger of the hero defeating them forever unless you're Bowser or Gannon.

Which has always been kinda weird to me. Resident Evil 5 feels like the point where they realized, after mystery-boxing Wesker for the entire series thus far, they had no idea where they were actually going with this. So they just swapped in Sephiroth so they could wrap him up and go do something else.

Less a Mystery Box as not being relevant until he was suddenly Back from the Dead after being impaled by a Tyrant then blown up. Then they started alluding to him being against Umbrella and having an Evil Plan.

But Resident Evil struggles to make any villains memorable other than Umbrella, at least beyond the creepy weird horror movie ones of 4, 7, and 8. The Family, Connections, whoever Wesker was working with and so on.

They can do individual creepies fine but not the political-corporate types that are supposed to be the Big Bad.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Mar 17th 2024 at 6:38:09 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Trainbarrel Submarine Chomper from The Star Ocean Since: Jun, 2023 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Submarine Chomper
#8906: Mar 17th 2024 at 6:39:43 AM

Wesker was the last remnant of everything bad with Umbrella and Spencer's ambitions, meaning that for Umbrella's evil to be truly gone, Wesker needed to go as well, even if he did a lot himself to bring the company down as seen in "Umbrella Chronicles".

However, his villainous breakdown upon discovering his origins and true purpose, lead him into a downward spiral which could only have ended in either him dying or the world and him dying. (He was not compatible with Uroboros after all) meaning that regardless the outcome in RE 5, he still would have lost regardless.

Just a matter if he could bring down the world with him in the fall or not.

[down] Neil Fisher proves that Uroboros-compatibility in humans is indeed a possibility, just an incredibly rare one.

Edited by Trainbarrel on Mar 17th 2024 at 2:47:28 PM

"If there's problems, there's simple solutions."
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#8907: Mar 17th 2024 at 6:42:17 AM

There's a good question if anyone would be compatible or if he'd just developed a delusion based around his Inferiority Superiority Complex.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Mar 17th 2024 at 6:42:46 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#8908: Mar 17th 2024 at 6:47:47 AM

Post RE 5 games don’t really need an overarching baddie anymore. The true threat is the demand for bioweapons itself that was unleashed.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#8909: Mar 17th 2024 at 12:32:06 PM

Neil Fisher proves that Uroboros-compatibility in humans is indeed a possibility, just an incredibly rare one.

And of course, this still means turning you into a hulk with a crippling aversion to any source of light.

Edited by Spirit on Mar 17th 2024 at 3:32:19 PM

#IceBearForPresident
Ookamikun This is going to be so much fun. (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
This is going to be so much fun.
#8910: Mar 17th 2024 at 6:00:25 PM

What I do dislike is that VIII kinda veered back on linking the whole thing to Spencer.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#8911: Mar 17th 2024 at 6:15:27 PM

Its more that Spencer is now linked to VIII.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#8913: Mar 22nd 2024 at 3:40:45 PM

I'm trepidatious about that.

The obvious reply is that Resident Evil wouldn't work for that. But on the other hand Metal Gear, Metro and Halo all made the jump to an open world amazingly.

#IceBearForPresident
PhoenixAct Since: Feb, 2011
#8914: Mar 22nd 2024 at 4:04:32 PM

Ugh, I hope it's just a rumour.

Really sick of open-world constantly being treated as the next step up, like it's the ultimate form all games should be aspiring to.

ShirowShirow Since: Nov, 2009
#8915: Mar 22nd 2024 at 4:21:49 PM

I'd probably see it as a "Hey let's do it a bit different this time" like the FPS camera we had in 7 more than a useless case of trend-chasing.

At this point I gotta say I have faith in Capcom. It's like they just said "Hey. Let's just... Do what people tell us to do and make awesome games" and have been knocking out banger after banger for awhile now.

And Now that Dead Rising is dead and not risen there's room for a whacky open-world zombie game anyway...

dmysta3000 Since: Apr, 2009
#8916: Mar 22nd 2024 at 4:26:43 PM

I do think that the general structure of an RE game at least conceptually can translate well to an Open World format, it’s just a question of how interesting it is to explore.

ShirowShirow Since: Nov, 2009
#8917: Mar 22nd 2024 at 4:32:43 PM

You know they've gotta have a pursuer in there. Time for Nemesis 4.0 baby, this time with a jetpack so they mess with you across the entire map!

(I am not counting exactly which monsters are nemesis clones but Ustanak definitely is)

PhoenixAct Since: Feb, 2011
#8918: Mar 22nd 2024 at 4:53:06 PM

I mean, I don't really care if this is something Capcom have decided themselves.

I'm kind of tired of games deciding that going open-world is the next big step, like the Zelda games did.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#8919: Mar 22nd 2024 at 6:15:10 PM

I'm confused at the definition of Open World.

Because...isn't Village open world?

There's a map. You go around it. You do the missions.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Mar 22nd 2024 at 6:15:26 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Ookamikun This is going to be so much fun. (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
This is going to be so much fun.
#8920: Mar 23rd 2024 at 5:37:32 AM

I was hoping R E3make was "pseudo-open world" like the original game.

shigmiya64 Somebody get this freaking duck away from me! from a settlement that needs our help, General Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Somebody get this freaking duck away from me!
#8921: Mar 23rd 2024 at 7:43:11 AM

They kinda experimented with open world-ish stuff with the boat segments in RE5 and RE4make.

Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Takat Empress
#8922: Mar 23rd 2024 at 8:58:03 AM

Dead Island?

Mileena Madness
FrozenWolf2 Since: Mar, 2013
#8923: Mar 23rd 2024 at 8:37:17 PM

still sad Dead rush never happened

GTA x Resident Evil!

Bisected8 Tief girl with eartude from Her Hackette Cave (Primordial Chaos) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Tief girl with eartude
#8924: Mar 26th 2024 at 4:57:07 PM

Isn't GTA + RE just Dead Rising?

TV Tropes's No. 1 bread themed lesbian. she/her, fae/faer
ShirowShirow Since: Nov, 2009
#8925: Mar 27th 2024 at 6:52:10 AM

That's doing Dead Rising a disservice IMHO.

Then again eventually Dead Rising became a disservice to Dead Rising.


Total posts: 8,979
Top