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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#1551: Apr 14th 2019 at 10:20:29 PM

Somehow I thought Meet the Robinsons was nominated, too...

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#1552: Apr 15th 2019 at 11:54:06 AM

[up] Meet The Robinsons is kinda underrated IMO.

It's heavily flawed, don't get me wrong, but it's still a really quirky and even a bit heartfelt movie, with fun characters, a well handled message, and a hilarious villain.

Edited by megaeliz on Apr 15th 2019 at 3:12:30 PM

alanh Since: May, 2010
#1553: Apr 15th 2019 at 12:45:53 PM

Going back to the Simpsons, Fox Broadcasting has and retains first-run distribution rights, but Disney will have rights to the characters and the back catalog.

This is subject to existing licenses, like The Simpsons Ride at the Universal parks — same deal as with Marvel and Universal's Marvel land.

Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#1554: Apr 15th 2019 at 3:27:45 PM

AT&T exits Hulu venture for $1.43 billion in cash.

Current composition post-transaction: Disney 67%, Comcast 33%.

It would suck if this means that the Turner networks are removed from Hulu's live TV platform in the future. It's currently booming at the moment and losing their networks could harm future growth.

Edited by Mario1995 on Apr 15th 2019 at 6:30:26 AM

"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#1555: Apr 15th 2019 at 3:43:24 PM

Huh. Hulu must be doing pretty well if only 7% was worth over a billion dollars.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#1556: Apr 15th 2019 at 3:44:39 PM

They're the biggest rival to Netflix at the moment,so yeah they're doing well

New theme music also a box
Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#1557: Apr 17th 2019 at 12:44:41 PM

Second round of post-merger layoffs hitting former Fox Networks Group ad sales unit (transferred to Disney).

"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#1558: Apr 17th 2019 at 12:57:17 PM

Well, looks like Disney intends to keep at least some of them or at least delay before they make a decision. But that's not really surprising. Like Distribution, this is another area which simply overlaps.

OldLadyNightMan Since: May, 2018 Relationship Status: Hiding
#1559: Apr 17th 2019 at 7:36:49 PM

Here's a Fox project that's not going anywhere thanks to Disney: the adaptation of Mouse Guard. It was halted two weeks before production started, apparently because Disney wanted Fox to only make PG-13/R-rated movies, and the premise of "Game of Thrones with mice" didn't fit that (unless they literally wanted to make Game of Thrones with mice).

Edited by OldLadyNightMan on Apr 17th 2019 at 2:11:40 PM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#1560: Apr 17th 2019 at 7:45:01 PM

What? Noooooo. Mouse Guard is totally PG-13! Why? Why would you cancel an adaptation of such an awesome comic?

BrightLight from the Southern Water Tribe. Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
#1561: Apr 17th 2019 at 8:28:11 PM

[up] Because they're, well, Disney.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#1562: Apr 17th 2019 at 8:32:43 PM

So? They can't let Fox do a more adult-oriented cartoon?

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#1563: Apr 17th 2019 at 10:43:28 PM

Eh...the reason why they cancelled the project is because it skews too young, not too old. Apparently Disney wants Fox to focus on PG-13 and R-rated project and leave the more family friendly stuff to Disney.

Also, the premise of the cartoon sound REALLY similar to the "Retter of Redwall". Which is an animated show based on a French book. So...at least for the european market it might be better to steer away from the comic anyway.

Edited by Swanpride on Apr 17th 2019 at 10:58:01 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#1564: Apr 17th 2019 at 11:06:16 PM

Eh...the reason why they cancelled the project is because it skews too young, not too old.
If you've read the Mouse Guard comic, though, it really doesn't skew too young, because it contains a hell of a lot of violence. So I'm not sure why they thought it was going to skew too young.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#1566: Apr 17th 2019 at 11:35:07 PM

Yeah, but the story is to mice what Watership Down is to rabbits. Seriously.

Edited by alliterator on Apr 17th 2019 at 11:35:44 AM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#1567: Apr 18th 2019 at 12:09:31 AM

[up] So are the Redwall books. The series based on them...not so much.

So maybe Fox was developing something for a younger audience or which looked like it was for a younger audience and Disney really didn't want another Watership down situation on their hand.

BrightLight from the Southern Water Tribe. Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
#1568: Apr 18th 2019 at 3:03:56 AM

Well, Watership Down is fricking awesome, and honestly, the world could use more stories like it.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#1569: Apr 18th 2019 at 3:22:49 AM

[up] Sure.

Maybe the project simply wasn't convincing or they actually was leaning with the adaptation younger than they should have with this kind of source material. I mean, the problem was apparently not that it would be too high-rated.

Zeromaeus Mighty No. 51345 from Neo Arcadia Since: May, 2010
Mighty No. 51345
#1570: Apr 18th 2019 at 5:51:24 AM

They probably were leaning younger. Most animated projects dont get off the ground unless they do. Particularly when they aren't comedies.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#1571: Apr 18th 2019 at 6:07:27 AM

In this case the cancellation might be a good thing. I mean, who wants a property like this kiddified?

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#1572: Apr 18th 2019 at 6:55:33 AM

So why not just insist that it being higher-rated? Why cancel the entire project?

Bockhead Since: Apr, 2014
#1573: Apr 18th 2019 at 7:40:22 AM

I feel like it could had been a movie for their streaming service instead

Disney should remember Fox had made animated movies without Blue Sky sometimes.

BrightLight from the Southern Water Tribe. Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
#1574: Apr 18th 2019 at 6:57:04 PM

Because apparently everything has to cater to modern kids these days.

OldLadyNightMan Since: May, 2018 Relationship Status: Hiding
#1575: Apr 18th 2019 at 8:59:36 PM

So, I found another article about this, and it contains a few interesting details. First, it states that Disney has let the producers shop the project elsewhere, with the two most likely candidates being Netflix and Paramount. There are also other rumored reasons for why Disney passed on it: it would've looked too similar to their Jungle Book and Lion King live-action remakes, they felt the budget of $170 million was too high, especially for a film based on a obscure property, and they only wanted 20th Century Fox to mostly be used for lower-budget films (which, for some reason, also includes family movies).

Honestly, I'm really hoping that Free Guy doesn't get affected by Disney.

Edited by OldLadyNightMan on Apr 18th 2019 at 12:00:12 PM


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