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Is it a surprise if we all know it’s coming?
'The Punisher' Season 2 Villain Is an Alt-Right Christian Fundamentalist
https://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/12/29/the-punisher-season-2-villain-alt-right/
In a new report from Collider, we finally learned more about Frank Castle's latest foe for The Punisher Season 2, a character named John Pilgrim played by actor Josh Stewart. The villain has been described as Alt-Right, a term that's associated with white nationalism and extreme conservatives.
"On the exterior, [John Pilgrim] is a man who is a Christian Fundamentalist who had a rage, a violent side of him," Stewart said. "It’s buried deep. I think where this is all headed, that sort of side of him is going to resurface a bit."
Pilgrim is said to contrast Billy Russo, who will also return for Season 2, as a creepier and more uptight foe for Frank Castle.
While Russo will be appearing in the new season, he won't be going under the name of Jigsaw. Instead, that term will apply to the character's fragmented psyche after the events of the first season.
"He’s trying to piece together what happened to him and who he is. There is the metaphor at one point that his brain is the jigsaw that he’s trying put the pieces back together of," actor Ben Barnes said to Collider.
As for the man himself, Frank Castle won't be doing some Punishing from the get go. It will take the actions of John Pilgrim and his allies to draw the violent side of Frank Castle out into the open. But when Castle does put on that skull-adorned vest, it will be an epic moment.
"This year, when he puts it on, we figured out a very intelligent, very tactical reason, a very psychologically tactical reason to wear it. It makes a lot of sense," said Frank Castle actor Jon Bernthal.
They're working hard to top the events of Season 1, which almost had an anti-climactic scene of The Punisher finally adopting the skull on his chest.
"There was going to be a whole scene with Micro where they’re at the computer figuring [the suit] out," Bernthal said. "That was going to be the first time with him in the vest. [Micro] was just gonna’ sort of be drinking tea and I’m like, 'You can’t do that. It’s gonna’ look so friggin’ stupid.'"
We'll get to see how it all pans out when The Punisher debuts on Netflix sometime in January 2019.
Darn, wish they had an exact release date.
I only sub to Netflix in 1 month chunks, so I'd like to know so i can plan accordingly.
"But if that happened, Melia might actually be happy. We can't have that." - Handsome Rob
...We’re not getting Jigsaw?
They do realize this show isn’t long for the world, right?
They were filming season 2 long before the Netflix cancellations, if I remember correctly.
You lost!
still kind of silly to set up the entirety of season 1 as a origin story for Jigsaw and then swerving left.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Foreign Troper
I'm expecting the worst. Not in terms of quality, but in terms of unresolved storylines.
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% Scandinavian
it's a living
Sounds like Jigsaw's still going to be there, just not as the single Big Bad, and not called Jigsaw, which, well... They don't really call Frank the Punisher all that often either.
Seems like they want to build up Jigsaw as a long-term threat, which is... probably going to be too bad. But if you were going to pick one Punisher villain who didn't get killed off, he'd be the guy.
(3) I mean technically they're swerving to the right...
Doctor of Doctorates
It is still Jigsaw though, it's Billy Russo as a horribly scarred recurring personal enemy of the Punisher. Its simply that in line with Castle not really going by the Punisher moniker, Russo isn't really called Jigsaw. Same as how the new villain of Daredevil was barely if ever actually called Bullseye, though he quite clearly was.
"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
Foreign Troper
Billy still looks too handsome for my taste.
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% ScandinavianToo handsome is a understatement. He looks like a supermodel with some scratches rather than a disfigured man.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."
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For someone whose face got dragged across shattered glass and slammed against it repeatedly, Billy damn sure came out of it lookin' great.
Hitokiri in the streets, daishouri in the sheets.
I guess heavily-scarred models are in this year.
Oh I will try to enjoy this season. I'll just pretend it's 6-7 episodes about two mercenaries blowing sh-t up in a violent swansong to the Netflix-verse.
Edited by Soble on Jan 3rd 2019 at 1:44:16 AM
I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!
I get flashbacks to the beauty and the beast remake….
Sweet.
January 18th means I can safety get Netflix now.
"But if that happened, Melia might actually be happy. We can't have that." - Handsome Rob
Foreign Troper
Somebody pointed me to this website which shows the supposed reason for why Billy isn't deformed
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/nov/29/bfi-to-refuse-funding-for-films-with-facially-scarred-villains
it's a living
He's still scarred and still presumably pretty evil. And would The Punisher really be receiving funding from the British Film Institute? Would they deny funding to other productions because of it?
It seems more likely that convincing special effects makeup is time-consuming and expensive and hard to act in, so I suppose they decided to cut their losses. Still definitely loses something. I don't think scars should be universally used as a shorthand for villainy or anything, but an already-villainous character who trades so heavily on his good looks then having them taken away — there's room for subtlety here.
Ben Barnes has already stated that the real scars are in Billy's mind, and he's trying to put the pieces back together like a Jigsaw.
Does the BFI fund t.v. shows as well? Also, Ben still has scars just not as bad as his comic counterpart.
Edited by windleopard on Jan 3rd 2019 at 10:47:22 AM
Reminds me of that one story where it's implied that Jigsaw sees himself as normal until he thinks about Frank, at which point all of the disfigurements come roaring back to him.
The point is that the NRA routinely uses the following talking points:
1. Gun control means the banning of Gun
Which is a compete misrepresentation, and exactly the way this side of the argument is framed in the show. They even make a big deal out of the supposed hypocrisy to want armed guards if you are a gun control lobbyist. There is nothing hypocrite about it, gun control is about keeping the guns in the hand of people who are trained to use them responsible, hiring a professional for protection is exactly what the spirit of gun control entails.
2. Not the guns are the problem, mental illness is
Do I really have to explain how this fits the show?
3. The best protection again a guy with a gun is a gun.
Now, this is the Punisher, so it was pretty clear that he would storm in with a gun, but the show makes a point of Karen usually having a weapon with her and being helpless because she was forced to give it up.
The whole episode is one big NRA propaganda video.