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Jun 9th 2017 at 8:45:18 AM

DBZ is getting a new 2D fighting game from Arc System Works, the makers of Guilty Gear and BlazBlue. The visual style they're going with to try and capture the look of the anime is really cool.

edited 9th Jun '17 8:46:09 AM by comicwriter

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Jun 9th 2017 at 8:56:09 AM

I want to say I'm sick and tired of Dragonball, but shooting lasers from your hands is going to be fun for a long time. The developers got quite a rep too, though I never actually played one of their games.

...Doubt I'd ever actually buy it, though. Fighting Games always felt too much like work.

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Jun 9th 2017 at 8:59:00 AM

Didn't they already make one on the 3DS that no one bought or talked about?

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Jun 9th 2017 at 9:00:38 AM

I'm mostly interested in this because of the developer, haha. Most of what I know about Dragon Ball comes from Dragon Ball Z Abridged but I am a HUGE Guilty Gear fan, so I'll pay attention to this.

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Jun 9th 2017 at 10:19:35 AM

[up][up]Yeah, they made a 2D fighter called Extreme Butoden for the 3DS. It looked decent (have no idea if it is; there's a demo for it but it's barebones and didn't feel like a good representation of the full game) and I probably would have bought it if I had the extra cash on me by the time I heard about it. At the very least the spritework is nice (of course).

As for no one talking about it, I think people were more interested in Xenoverse at the time, plus it was another DBZ fighting game on a system that a lot of people consider poor for fighters. And I don't think it was even advertised outside of the 3DS eshop. Then there are the fans who like the fighting games but prefer they made more of them in the style of the Budokai and Raging Blast games, as opposed to what EB was.

In any case, the new game... It looks like they're just making a fighting game using the animation style that Guilty Gear currently uses, which is neat, but not really enough to sell me on the game on its own. Though it includes 3 vs 3 battles, and I'm not sure how many traditional DBZ titles have team matches in the first place, so that grabs my attention more than the visual style. The character roster will probably be what seals the deal for me.

Hari-HaraDigital Devil Saga
Jun 9th 2017 at 11:00:57 AM

[up]That and 2D sprite fighters have niche appeal anyway, especially considering a license with as much mainstream recognition as Dragon Ball Z.

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Jun 10th 2017 at 5:01:23 AM

The issue with the 3DS game was it being a fighting game on the 3DS, considered a terrible system for the genre. (With the exception of Smash Bros)

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Nap1100 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
Jun 10th 2017 at 8:18:39 AM

And even then it was considered outclassed by the Wii U version for competitive play, hehe. Handhelds just aren't typically a good system for fighting games.

Dunno if we count the Switch in that lineup.

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Jun 10th 2017 at 8:45:59 AM

I do know some of the Neo Geo Pocket fighters have a good reputation.

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Jun 11th 2017 at 12:34:45 AM

[up][up]The Switch has the benefit of compatibility with regular controllers and sticks, and better FG support due to it's dual nature.

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Jun 11th 2017 at 4:01:00 PM

Neat. It looks more like the anime than ever.

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Jun 11th 2017 at 4:20:10 PM

Okay so now that we know it goes past Z and transformations look to be separate characters, here's my list:

  • Goku (Base (Kaioken ultimate), Super Saiyan (3 ultimate), God, Blue (Kaioken ultimate))
  • Vegeta (Base, Super Saiyan, Majin, Blue)
  • Teen Gohan (Super Saiyan 2)
  • Gohan (Base, Super Saiyan (2 ultimate), Mystic)
  • Gotenks (Super Saiyan (3 ultimate))
  • Vegetto (Super Saiyan)
  • Gogeta (Super Saiyan)
  • Piccolo
  • Krillin
  • Tien
  • Future Trunks (Base, Super Saiyan (Grade 3 ultimate))
  • #17
  • #18
  • Mr. Satan
  • Captain Ginyu
  • Frieza (4th form (Golden ultimate))
  • Cell (Perfect)
  • Majin Buu (Fat, Super (Gohan ultimate), Kid)
  • Bardock (Base (Super Saiyan ultimate))
  • Broly (Legendary Super Saiyan)
  • Beerus
  • Hit
  • Goku Black (Base, Super Saiyan Rose)

DLC: GT Pack

  • GT Goku (Super Saiyan 4)
  • Pan
  • GT Vegeta (Super Saiyan 4)
  • Gogeta (Super Saiyan 4)
  • Omega Shenron

Universe Survival Pack

  • Caulifla (Super Saiyan)
  • Kale (Super Saiyan Berserk)
  • Jiren
  • Ribrianne

edited 12th Jun '17 7:52:45 AM by LordVatek

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Jun 11th 2017 at 4:56:18 PM

They better have Caulifla and Kale is all I'm sayin'.

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Jun 11th 2017 at 5:24:06 PM

I was conflicted when I first heard the news. On one hand a DB game being made by my favorite fighting game company is a dream come true, but on the other I was hoping ASW would put out an all new original IP.

Then I saw the trailer and my hype level is maximum. And is that Daisuke doing the music? Fucking awesome!

[up]Don't you mean "that's all I'm saiyan"? :p, but yeah, I need my Super Saiyan Lesbians in this game.

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Jun 11th 2017 at 5:39:23 PM

I kinda those two are getting in outside of DLC since unless Arc System Works got a big head's up, they're way too new and don't really have movesets yet (well okay, Kale's an obvious Broly clone, but the only technique Caulifla's shown at this point outside of the two Super Saiyan forms is that red laser thing).

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Jun 11th 2017 at 6:06:52 PM

Makes sense. As long as they're in eventually!

Jun 11th 2017 at 7:32:30 PM

Looks crazy. Since Mv C isn't gonna be 3v3 this will probably fill the void.

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Jun 11th 2017 at 7:37:55 PM

I don't want the roster to be too large at first. Arc games tend have around 12-13 characters at launch. And I'm pretty sure they're gonna go with the staples first.

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Jun 12th 2017 at 12:29:05 AM

As amazing as this game is, y'all have to remember when speculating, this game is ASW's 4th foray into Dragon Ball. If you want to know who might make it into this game's roster, y'all should probably remember the rosters of their previous DB games...

    open/close all folders 
    Supersonic Warriors 
  • Goku (Base, Kaioken)
  • SSJ Goku
  • SSJ2 Teen Gohan
  • Ultimate Gohan
  • Piccolo
  • Kamiccolo (Base, w/ Kami)
  • True Piccolo (Base, w/ Demon King Piccolo)
  • Krillin
  • Kaioken Krillin (Base, Kaioken)
  • Vegeta
  • SSJ Vegeta
  • Majin Vegeta
  • SSJ Future Trunks
  • Ginyu
  • Frieza
  • Mecha Frieza
  • 18
  • Dr. Gero
  • Perfect Cell
  • Majin Buu
  • Super Buu
  • SSJ3 Gotenks
    Supersonic Warriors 2 (not including assists) 
  • Goku (Base, Kaioken)
  • SSJ Goku (SSJ, SSJ3)
  • Vegeta
  • SSJ Vegeta
  • Majin Vegeta
  • Teen Gohan (Base, SSJ)
  • SSJ2 Teen Gohan
  • Gohan (Base, SSJ, Ultimate)
  • Piccolo
  • Krillin (Base, Unlock Potential)
  • Future Trunks
  • SSJ Future Trunks (SSJ, Ultra SSJ)
  • Ginyu (Base, Goku)
  • Frieza (Final Form, Full Power)
  • Mecha Frieza
  • Dr. Gero
  • Semi-Perfect Cell
  • Perfect Cell
  • Gotenks (Base, SSJ)
  • SSJ3 Gotenks
  • Majin Buu
  • Super Buu
  • Cooler (Final Form, Further Form)
  • Meta-Cooler
  • Broly
    Extreme Butoden (not including assists) 
  • Goku (Base, Kaioken)
  • SSJ Goku (SSJ, SSJ3)
  • SSJG Goku (SSJG, Godly SSJ)
  • SSJB Goku
  • Teen Gohan
  • SSJ2 Teen Gohan
  • SSJ Gohan
  • Ultimate Gohan
  • Vegeta
  • SSJ Vegeta
  • SSJ Future Trunks
  • Piccolo
  • Krillin
  • Raditz
  • Nappa
  • Ginyu
  • Frieza
  • 18
  • Perfect Cell
  • Majin Buu
  • Kid Buu
  • SSJ Gotenks (SSJ, SSJ3)
  • Beerus
  • Bardock (Base, SSJ)
  • Broly

Surely what-if forms like Kaioken Krillin probably wont make it, but there's a good chance a majority of the characters listed above who have been in all 3 previous games will make it into DBFZ.

edited 12th Jun '17 12:29:30 AM by Rinsankajugin

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Jun 12th 2017 at 5:44:22 AM

Niconico had a livestream showing off gameplay footage. Here are the clips, though they might end up being taken down.

The long and short of it is that the gameplay of this game is straight Marvel, with the notable exception that every down resets to neutral. Other than that, hard tags, DH Cs, assists, pushblocking, and all that stuff are all in.

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Jun 12th 2017 at 5:54:23 AM

[up]So then fighter people wanted out of Infinite with Unreal Engine simulating 2D sprites.

Sold.

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