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TropesForever from TropesForever Since: Sep, 2016 Relationship Status: I love you for psychological reasons
#1: Nov 19th 2016 at 12:55:33 PM

This trope is supposed to be about a moral that has no impact on Real Life. However, somehow the description ended up as complaining about almost any use of allegory. It's like a Morton's Fork: you either don't have the rules required and your moral fails, or you do and your moral fails. All this from a trope that's supposed to be about something else entirely, at least according to the page quote, image laconic, and a lot of the examples.

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#2: Nov 19th 2016 at 4:40:40 PM

Opening this for discussion, but having read the page in question, I'd say that the best fix (and incidentally the easiest one) is to move most of the definition section to Analysis. It reads like an essay.

My suggestion is everything starting with the second paragraph up to the words Important Note:' Go to Analysis. Then all it needs is a clear statement of the definition: "In a work set in a world different from our own (magic, another planet, a completely different social system, etc.), an Aesop which has no applicability to our own world because of the differences between the two."

edited 19th Nov '16 4:47:26 PM by Madrugada

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#3: Nov 20th 2016 at 1:03:52 AM

Moving all those generic "examples" to an analysis page seems like a good start.

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TropesForever from TropesForever Since: Sep, 2016 Relationship Status: I love you for psychological reasons
#4: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:47:48 AM

But the examples are all over the place. For example, while one says that bringing snowmen to life is bad with no metaphor or anything, another is complaining about a poorly handled prostitution/drug use metaphor involving vampires. The latter seems closer to Lost Aesop or Clueless Aesop.

edited 20th Nov '16 11:50:16 AM by TropesForever

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#5: Nov 20th 2016 at 1:08:49 PM

Cleaning up the examples will go more smoothly once the definition is clear instead of buried under judgemental quasi lit-crit cruft.

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TropesForever from TropesForever Since: Sep, 2016 Relationship Status: I love you for psychological reasons
#6: Nov 20th 2016 at 2:31:59 PM

It would probably fit better on Analysis.Clueless Aesop, though. It's also odd that the description has a note telling you not to add examples that actually fit the definition.

edited 20th Nov '16 2:32:37 PM by TropesForever

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#7: Jan 11th 2017 at 12:26:10 AM

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#8: Jan 15th 2017 at 5:27:45 AM

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