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#1: Nov 15th 2016 at 2:15:18 PM

While Deadpool has always been a meta series but I wonder if there is a reason behind his madness? Deadpool talks to the reader and he breaks the fourth wall when addressing the reader yet in the story's universe, he is treated as a crazy nut who lives in a simulated reality who is just plain delusional due to his brain tumor and healing factor. Can anyone explain to me the reason behind this? What postmodern comedic tool are the writers using to convey this phenomena? Why does this get treated as delusional despite it being mroe or less true that they Marvel characters live in comics world? And does Deadpool really break the fourth wall or does he "bend" the fourth wall?

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#2: Nov 15th 2016 at 4:15:18 PM

Loki gave him his fourth wall powers by doing it himself. "There is a man... with a typewriter."

When Deadpool failed to beat Thor, he punished him by making him completely invulnerable and giving him the face of Tom Cruise, which would only go away if he apologized to his father.

It was a strange story XD You can find more here (I'm at work so i don't have time to get specifics.) https://www.google.com/webhp?ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=deadpool+loki

edited 15th Nov '16 4:16:24 PM by lalalei2001

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#3: Nov 16th 2016 at 1:23:41 PM

I will wait for your analysis...that comic is confusing and I may need to read it some more.

Also, where does the whole simulated realty thing come in?

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indiana404 Since: May, 2013
#4: Nov 16th 2016 at 2:13:14 PM

Deadpool's been breaking the fourth wall ever since Joe Kelly's first run. It's just a thing he does. And it's pretty explicitly breaking the wall, rather than leaning on it. He doesn't say things like "this sounds like a bad comic", but rather "this is a bad comic". However, I don't recall any reference to a simulated reality - people treat him like a nutcase, and that's about it. The in-universe explanation is that healing factors and full-body cancer don't bode too well for the brain. The actual explanation is that it was fun back in the day, before every writer decided to have their own spin on Wade's insanity - from multiple kinds of thought bubbles, to carrying a S.H.I.E.L.D. agent's mind within his own, etc. All in all, the film hit the sweet spot of witty irreverence, pop-culture references and general medium awareness that defined the character, so it can be considered his default state of mind.

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#5: Nov 17th 2016 at 6:33:36 AM

Deadpool's brain is warped by his mutant super-cancer. This causes him to perceive reality in a way that runs contrary to established consensus. This means that normal people consider him insane. However, this change in perception causes him to perceive reality as it truly is - that is exists in a comic/game/movie.

Or, to put it in Discworld terms, Deadpool is perpetually knurd.

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#6: Nov 28th 2016 at 4:33:26 PM

In Joe Kelly's actual run the in-universe reasoning for his fourth-wall-breaking is explained in a Origins Episode. Basically he was a inmate in a mutant concetration camp/experimental field of sorts, and he was a fairly normal dude in that meantime. He only had visions of Lady Death talking to him when in times of extreme duress, but that's not madness (The Grim Reaper is actually in love with him and talking to him).

But towards the end of the story, he's strapped to a chair and his heart is ripped off, leaving him to bleed out, which doesn't quite kill him but leaves him in a sort of pseudo-alive state (it's both too much for his healing factor to just shrug off and too little to actually kill him), in which he's basically stuck in a limbo between life and death and has to choose whether he wants to live (and force his healing factor to overwork to heal his heart) or die and be with his beloved Lady Death.

He chooses to live to avenge one of his friends, and thus forces his body to grow back his own heart, and the story shows the process as being quite traumatic. When Deadpool comes back, notices the fourth wall for the first time.

This was specifically shown because in that story, his speech bubbles are normal comic book white. They only switch to his trademark yellow when he undergoes the resurrection.

So in short, the original explanation was the trauma of resurrection gave him this ability. Over time that was retcooned, more or less.

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