Get Out

This larger immortality-seeking organization could potentially tie all future films together. Also it adds to some potential world building as well.

This is just the worst idea ever. Let Peele come up with a new story. Please don't give us Get Out 5 with, Christ, the Navajo or something.

Hey, if it gets Peele money in Hollywood, go for it.

New Line is the house which Freddy built, after all.

Get Out’s soundtrack will be coming to vinyl.

On the other forum I frequent, I found a guy giving this film the dumbest criticism ever. He called it unoriginal and racist against white people. I told him he was arguing from a bad faith perspective (even if that's not his intention).

Really think about it. What if the film did have a sympathetic white character? That is an inherently flawed idea for a movie like this because it's about the insidious ways that whites appropriate African-American culture, taken to a horrific extreme. What if Chris had a white friend that saved him at the end? That would fall face-first into White Savior.

The poster also took issue with how Chris killed the cultists despite his backstory. But what that was about was Chris learning to take action when his inaction could have (in his mind) contributed to his mother's demise (whether or not that's objectively true). It was about punishing the evil and making sure the cultists couldn't hurt anyone else ever again.

Those were just a few things I wanted to get off my chest. The poster praised some aspects of the movie, but criticized it in ways that were really... deplorable.

The movie ultimately had a specific story they wanted to tell, it was not about trying to cover all their bases to reach the largest audience possible. The story ended up embracing the horror genre in the end, which I felt was a small weakness (it plays into revenge fantasies, when I first saw Black Panther one guy was cheering on Killmongers new world order speech), but ultimately there wasn't a place in the story to include a sympathetic white character without unbalancing the carefully constructed plotting. Characters shouldn't be imposed on the plot just for representation.

The issue is sort of related to the hesitation a lot of filmmakers have to using a black villain. Giving a good character to a good actor should be more important than the color of their skin. Especially frustrating how often "black villain is racist" is used to justify Monochrome Casting.

I feel as though this is applicable to most people who decry something as “racist against white people”.

Another thing is that the movie absolutely does have a sympathetic white character. Stephen Root's character (the blind art owner) is absolutely sympathetic. He's just also, you know, selfish and putting his needs above someone else's, which frankly most people can identify with at some level.

Good point.

I didn't find Jim sympathetic at all; I thought he came off as a self-serving scuzzball trying to wash his hands of his complicity in the cult's crimes.

His character was the linchpin of the entire positive racism metaphor. A man who was blind and thus incapable of seeing skin color still saw another person according to what they could offer him, rather than respecting them as a human being. His apparent kindness was still a front for what they had planned for Chris.

Re: Sympathetic POV

You presume your audiences don't assume all white people are a bunch of crazy murder/demonic possession cultists.

And if white audiences ARE sympathizing with them, what the hell?

I will say that Rod didn't rescue Chris. Chris had taken care of everything. Rod just gave Chris a lift.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Oct 15th 2018 at 7:14:12 AM

Rod is T. S. Motherf-ing. A. They handle s-t.