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Is there someone volunteering to implement this decision? It's a major piece of work for questionable benefit, so I am not keen at closing the crowner before this is answered.
I'm happy to pitch in. It's not a one-person job, but I'll certainly help out.
edited 25th Feb '16 11:42:38 AM by HighCrate
I can work sporadically on the project.
I'm very skeptical that even a tiny fraction of Hey Its That Guy and Hey Its That Voice examples could be salvaged for Role Association. Merge and redirect the tropes, yes, but the examples cluttering the trivia pages are so badly written that I think it's better to start from scratch.
If the cleanup is just killing wicks, I can occasionally help out.
x2 I agree with this sentiment. Just kill wicks.
I cannot help with this for a bit due to IRL stuff, but I will get on it ince I have the chance.
Thirded. Rehabilitate those examples that can be rehabbed, kill the rest.
We've got a stable crowner and some volunteers who all seem to be on the same page about what to do. Can we call the crowner and get started?
By "kill wicks", do we mean simply deleting examples?
I would be happy to help.
I can pitch in here and there, if the decision is to delete wicks and start from scratch. My knowledge of (voice) actors may not be good enough to figure out what may be salvageable, however.
Most of the examples I've ever have seen have just been "So-and-so was in X, Y and Z". I'm not sure how salvageable most entries will honestly be.
edited 1st Mar '16 3:59:14 PM by Wyldchyld
Well, as long as it doesn't require whole example rewrites or rearranging the examples, I could probably help out once in a while.
I'm happy with this. HITG tropes were just filling up space with useless examples. I'll help out where I can.
This thread has been bumped a half-dozen times, I've hollered at the mods more than once, and still they don't call the crowner.
I'm going to holler this post and make posts in the general TRS thread and in ATT, and if I don't get a response within 24 hours, I'm going to start cleaning wicks. We've had consensus for literally weeks and I've done everything I can to get the mods' attention, nobody can say I didn't go through proper channels.
edited 17th Mar '16 1:10:03 PM by HighCrate
Called it now.
I'm going to assume we're redirecting the old tropes into Role Association since they both have a ton of inbounds.
They also both have over 5,000 wicks. We have a lot of work to do.
By the way, what's the policy for Just for Fun pages that shouldn't be wicked, but have entire subpages for specific works? Because those subpages would inevitably show up in the actual work? Do we keep them or cutlist?
Are we just deleting the wicks that we find? Or are we trying to figure out which ones are salvageable (and redirecting them to Role Association)?
edited 17th Mar '16 5:11:48 PM by Wyldchyld
So, Septimus Heap and any other mod that may be listening, OK to remove Hey Its That Voice from most of the trivia pages? To anyone who knows, how are Role Association examples meant to be written, so I know what to keep and what to can? This will also destroy a lot of wicks, so it'll help the namespace migration (which we haven't finished, we're on wick cleaning.)
edited 20th Mar '16 11:23:31 AM by TheOneWhoTropes
Looking at Role Association, the examples in the subpages seem to be a snippet about the work with character names replaced by names of characters the actor also played with links to the other character's origin work.
Just say the word, and I'll start chopping these out of Trivia pages.
In that case, we should also remove all the pages about voice actors and movie actors as well, since they will not be needed anymore using the same new rules.
^ I don't see how that follows.
We'll still need those actor pages. Noting who played the characters in character sheets, listing examples for tropes like Talking to Himself...
Could someone please put it on the bulletins so that all editors can fix it?
I've tried sorting out some of the Hey Its That Voice credits onto the actors' pages if it wasn't there already, and adding some of the most prominent voice actors that don't have a page yet to Summary.People.
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