Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi

Today is the one year anniversary of the premiere of The Last Jedi.

It is the 10,000 year anniversary of its wars all over the Internet.

Huh, me and TLJ share a birthday. Totally forgot that.

Oh, wow, it's my birthday too, actually.

Happy mutual birthday!

Happy Birthday!

Happy Birthday, y'all! :)

Happy Birthday!

Wow, that's a coincidence. Happy Birthday Tobias!

Happy B-Day.

Ha one minute before the day ended.

Edited by slimcoder on Dec 15th 2018 at 8:59:55 AM

Think they'll do anything for the 20th anniversary of TPM? Not exactly the best-regarded installment but an important milestone all the same.

Y'know what'd be fun? An high-quality animated short of a podrace.

Kind of like if you took one of the movie plots, and literally just did one of the space battle scenes / dogfights, but rewrote/reframed it as a self-contained thing.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 17th 2018 at 6:09:54 AM

Just watch REDLINE and shout about midichlorians every five minutes.

I hope I don't start another fight with this, but is it possible we may be writing off Snoke too easily? The Dark Side is, after all, a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural, and we already have a character that survived the exact same injury (Maul) through The Power of Hate. Legends had another (Darth Sion) that lived through even worse for the same reason.

Frankly, I wouldn't want more of Snoke. His exit could definitely have been handled better, but its the same thing with his introduction and pretty much everything about him - he's a character nobody writing or directing the films has ever been much invested in, a plot device and means to an end whose role in things they greatly underestimated, and it shows.

That exit by and large makes the setting (and Kylo's character) less muddled, and pushing him back in would just make things even more convoluted than they were beforehand, so I say just let his death lie.

What the character could use now is a heavy dose of Dave Filoni midquel character development.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 19th 2018 at 3:29:44 AM

Yeah, Snoke was never that interesting and Kylo Ren was much more interesting as the leader of the First Order.

Well he’s just gonna the drive the whole thing into the ground.

I wouldn’t really call that interesting but hey it’s gonna be fun seeing him be a pathetic fuck-up that’s for sure.

It'll be fine. Villainous Breakdown is a popular trope for a reason.

I love the idea of Kylo being insane, emotional and unfit to rule so much that the First Order becomes simultaneously more violent, but also less full scale, akin to turning into a mad dog on an organizational scale: just biting whatever's in their way, but needing to be taken down before they give everyone rabies.

I keep imagining something like Visser Three: less than competent, but at the same time definitely no less dangerous.

It fits in with the general theme of the series of the old fight between the Light and Dark falling aside and simply going through the motions, it fits the general setting of the galaxy splintering apart with everyone out for themselves, and it likewise fits better for their impression of Kylo as a more personal antagonist.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 19th 2018 at 3:34:34 AM

For those who watch Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., this is pretty much the equivalent of making Grant Ward the head of HYDRA. And yes, Ward was the head of his own branch of Hydra and yes he did fuck it up pretty quickly.

I think the emphasis given on Snoke’s lingering limp body lying in a heap of pieces on the floor make it pretty clear that, yes, he is so, so dead.

clearly it was impostor,the real Snork was another spaceship piloting the fake snoke all along!

Darth Matroska, an endless Russian nesting doll of Sith Lords.

Edited by Unsung on Dec 19th 2018 at 5:02:17 AM

One thing that might be different in Snoke's case as opposed to Maul and Sion's is that, per the Visual Dictionary, Snoke while mighty is the Force is actually as physically frail as he looks. Maul and Sion, of course, were big, burly attack dogs.

"this is pretty much the equivalent of making Grant Ward the head of HYDRA. And yes, Ward was the head of his own branch of Hydra and yes he did fuck it up pretty quickly."

The main diference I would said is that WE SEE garret in action and the guy was fucking terryfing, we also saw what he did to Ward(no to excuse him but many of Ward behivor can be atribute in how much Garret broke him, specially the fact Ward never figure out that), we didnt see anything of Snoke.

If anything I will said Johnson kinda regard Snoke as bad apendix of Kylo that should have be remove sooner.

You know, I was wondering why this and the other recent SW films weren't good in my eyes, and I think looking at the Lucasfilm Story Group kind of explains the reason. Almost none of the members had any sort of experience in writing, instead being hired based off of gender. Yeah. >_<

Not saying there's anything wrong with having a female led story group, but this just comes off as emphasizing diversity over good storytelling. The former should never come before experience.

You just linked to a Reddit post where their research consisted solely of IMDB. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that this person is biased and just generally assumed that those people were hired because of their gender because the poster is sexist.

Oh and their post history is filled with r/The_Donald — so: suspicion confirmed!

By the way, the Lucasfilm Story Group isn't responsible for writing the films, they are only responsible for making sure that all the continuity going forward is the same and correct. The films were written by Lawrence Kasdan, Michael Arndt, JJ Abrams, and Rian Johnson. So...you're wrong.

Also, another by the way, that entire subreddit is for fans who completely and utterly hate the new trilogy for, shall we say, reasons. Reasons that certainly have something to do with the abundance of women and people of color.

Edited by alliterator on Dec 20th 2018 at 4:21:40 AM

...Or it could also be because they simply dislike how the new films have treated the characters and the original series. Racism, bigotry, and Russian interference isn't the end all be all of the types of people who dislike the films you know. Some are, but most aren't. And it is extremely hard to see anything other than gender and perhaps nepotism being the main reason for many of the hires, as again, very few of them have had any sort of experience with screenwriting. I and many others would also be criticizing it if they were made of mainly of men with similar levels of experience, which is to say, hardly any.

And the story group is still responsible for coming up with new ideas for, maybe not the main films, but certainly much of the other new material coming out from Lucasfilm, which I also believe to be subpar.

Edited by LDragon2 on Dec 20th 2018 at 6:19:50 AM