Team Rocket Boss.
Well we haven't seen it yet, so maybe we can be pleasantly surprised?
Maybe it will be amusing in the way Fan4stic is?
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
Yesterday, Gizmodo had an interview with Josh Boone
regarding the movie.
There's even a reason why Sunspot is more white than usual. To quote Boone:
io9: We've got to talk about the criticisms that have been leveled against the film for casting Henry Zaga to play Roberto, a character who's Afro-Brazilian in the comics, originally read as Black, and whose origins do touch upon anti-Black racism in Brazil. I suppose my first question's: do you get where that criticism came from?
Boone: You won't have any argument from me. It's like my thing was my goal was to cast a real Brazilian and I saw 300 of myself black, brown, lighter-skinned. I saw every shade of the sun. It was the same case with Blu Hunt. It's like we looked at 300 Native American people and people very close ties to the Native American community. My goal was to find the best actor who, because they've done so little work, was at least the closest to kind of what I saw in my head for the character. There was nobody who hold a candle to Henry. It's like maybe if Henry didn't exist, I would have found somebody who was darker skinned who exemplified what I needed. But it was never about the color of their skin for me.
io9: Did that just not fit into your vision for Roberto's story in the film?
Boone: I didn't care so much about the racism I've heard about in Brazil, about light-skinned versus dark-skinned. To me, it was I wanted to represent Brazil in a positive way and I wanted to find somebody who seems like he could look like a guy who's had the silver spoon in his mouth, who has like a really rich dad and [Henry] just exemplified all these things.
Henry's such a dedicated performer and you can see it in her performance on The Stand where he's playing someone who can neither speak nor hear, and he put so much time into learning sign language and spending time learning from deaf people was just great. He's a beyond reproach human being, and I sort of defy anybody who wants to say that Henry's not a good Roberto simply because he's lighter-skinned.
I guess he was trying to non-answer his way out of the question, but Twitter is already foaming at the mouth about it.
Here's hoping that if Marvel Studios tackles the New Mutants, they double down on finding an Afro-Brazilian Roberto.
Yeah, it's an absurd answer, and very regressive considering Sunspot was first written in the 80s with a Black millionaire dad and that wasn't treated as unbelievable.
Saying "I don't care so much about the racism in Brazil" when you're putting a Brazilian character in a movie is also absurdly flippant.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."
The Camp Crystal Lake Slasher
He should have just said "I couldn't find any Afro-Brazilian actors." instead of whatever the hell that was.
Jason has come back to kill for Mommy.
The Head of the Hydra
I wonder if we'll every get super-leader-genius Sunspot.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Even after the movie came out and died in a pandemic, it's STILL cursed, isn't it?
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That's only a marginally less stupid excuse. Brazilians have a massive African-descended community to the point it'd be ridiculous to suggest you "couldn't find one". It'd be like saying you couldn't find a African-American actor for a given project.
I think even Josh Boone is aware of how silly that sounds and that's why he instead with "I went with the feeling of whoever had the best millionaire vibe" without realizing the full-brunt of the implications of that statement (I.e millionaires can't be black people).
"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Vulture did an article regarding what the hell happened with the movie.
- Evidently, the initial scripts by Boone and Knate Lee (actually a cameraman named Knate Gwaltney) were REALLY wonky. They had crude humor and someone would be "a misogynist and graffiti-ing his penis on stuff."
- In the most early incarnations of the script, Storm would've been in the movie...as a sadistic prison warden?!
I think the rest would have to be read to be believed, because that second point alone is a major "BRUH" moment.
Like...BRUH.
Goku Black
Kinda miffed we wont get to see that.
Its so odd how the films here just sorta turned her into a background character when shes one of the main x men.
Surrounded by weirdoes
The movies turned nearly every other big name into basically an extra. It sucks, but Fox only really cared for Charles and Logan out of all the heroes and the Deadpool movies were the ones that actually made Colossus a character.
Edited by Blueace on Aug 27th 2020 at 3:10:05 PM
Wake me up at your own risk.
The Head of the Hydra
Also Magneto & Mystique towards the end.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Goku Black
Hey at least Magneto is the franchises Big Bad. I expect him to get promience. Though mystique is just so weird....they increased her influence here way further then it should have been.
"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
The Head of the Hydra
Jennifer Lawrence was once a big thing. 
"The Juice is Loose."
For all the problems X-Men the Last Stand had. At least it had Storm do stuff. Not a whole lot of stuff, but stuff. More than the other movies at least.
This movie getting bad reviews is disheartening as I was looking forward to it. A horror themed comic book movie is not something I have seen before.
Edited by Bullman on Aug 27th 2020 at 2:18:10 PM
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
The Camp Crystal Lake Slasher
Don't worry, at least there's still the Blade movies and the Spawn HBO series to hold you over until the Doctor Strange sequel and/or WandaVision comes out.
Jason has come back to kill for Mommy.
The bit where he justified whitewashing a character with wanting to portray Brazil positively also didn't help.
Welcome to Estalia, gentlemen.
Whelp! It looks like the movie turned out so bad, it didn't even get one of the co-creators' names right.
New Mutants co-creator Bob McLeod went to Facebook to diss the movie for not giving most of the characters their distinct physical traits like Dani's braids, Rahne's spiky red hair, Sam's gawky tallness and especially Roberto's dark skin, even though he liked the actors. (Remarkably, Magik doesn't get mentioned anywhere, so maybe she got a pass?)
To make matters worse, the credits didn't even get his own name right, spelling it as "Bob Macleod".
Yowza... So should we start cancelling Josh Boone posthaste?
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Though let me just add the film is getting a lot of critical pushback on Rotten Tomatoes. Forbes' Scott Mendelson even dubbing the film "The Worst ‘X-Men’ Movie Ever".
I recall seeing a popular Twitter post cited Anya Taylor-Joy's casting as Magik as an example of "god-tier comic book castings wasted in bottom-tier comic book media starter pack" earlier in August, so maybe he thought similarly?
Edited by XMenMutant22 on Aug 28th 2020 at 2:24:31 PM
Disasturbator
At this point the carelessness on display is full on They Just Didn't Care,as a fan of the xmen it feels like a kick in the teeth
New theme music also a box
This-
-is such an old fashioned white Hollywood answer. It's worth remembering that a lot of Americans don't perceive Brazil as a place where black people exist, and like a lot of perceptions like that it's essentially thanks to old media - in Hollywood that especially thanks to that emphasis that happened when Golden Age Hollywood was doing outreach films and programs to Latin America. They wanted to import media, and predominantly imported the culture that was more closely Portuguese linked: Carmen Miranda, affluent environments, essentially tourist stuff, and no dark skinned people. Brazil's had that problem for ages. And because of that, in that classical nostalgic way that's what a lot of people outside the country perceive as Brazilian.
Hawaii used to get the same thing, but years of pushback has started to diminish that.
But it doesn't surprise me, someone going "I took this black Brazilian character, but because I wanted a fun, positive portrayal of the country I casted a fun, positive light skinned guy." It comes from the same place as George Lucas cheerfully putting blatant stereotypes in his work because the fun movies he grew up on used them, without any real cognizance of what he was doing.
I don't even want to get started on the "I wanted to cast someone who would be believably rich, so I cast a light skinned guy."
Edited by KnownUnknown on Aug 28th 2020 at 11:39:15 AM
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Maisie Williams shared an article from Forbes about the movie... even if the article calls it "the worst X-Men movie ever."
Erm. I'm not sure how to respond to this...
They’ve given up and want to put this entire episode behind them?
I honestly don’t know. How many failed pilots can the Fox Men have? Dark Phoenix was apparently supposed to be the first chapter of a series leading to an X-Men vs Fantastic Four series that turned into the lamest Grand Finale to a franchise since Highlander: The Source. Now this was supposed to be the first chapter of a new series, except not.
In 2022 when SDCC has an MCU X-Men trailer with the strums of the 90’s X-Men theme, this film will be remembered as having a far more interesting production than final product. And I think the actors in the film are just done with it.
Such a shame about this one since I was rather excited about a superhero horror movie.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."