Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse

Yeah; you’re in a movie theater with other people, geez. I’m with your sister.

Okay I exaggerated there, I wasn't as noisy as I made myself out to be, never stood up for one. Honest.

But I still cheered a little, just quietly.

Edited by slimcoder on Dec 26th 2018 at 9:37:42 AM

Still, dude.

Eh, cheering a little is fine.

For the record, the sequel is going to focus on romance between the two.

Edited by LordVatek on Dec 26th 2018 at 1:37:46 PM

Eh, I wouldn't put too much stock in rumors coming out literally days after the film was released. Not that I'm against the concept, unlike Mr. "I literally clapped" up there.

Heheh that's a good one.

This is a Never Gonna Live It Down for me moment isn't it?

You're just like Hank Pym now.

Mr. Slap and Mr. Clap.

This may be a little late but I don’t blame @slimcoder for being excited that the movie decided to subvert expectations regarding Gwen/Miles. Romance subplots can be exhausting and annoying if not done well, especially in comic book adaptations. Just look at the Sam Raimi films.

Yeah, I get that. I just feel like A) the chemistry between Gwen and Miles was actually somewhere between good and okay, unlike a lot of movie romances, and B) that whole "I literally stood up, cheered, and high-fived people next to me!" "That's incredibly rude of you." "W-well, er, I didn't actually do that, I was just exaggerating..." was too hilarious not to needle him about.

Yeah I thought the relationship was good enough to lead to maybe something down the line. But not good enough for a kiss at the end. :p

Best Spider-Man movie.

I think Into the Spider-Verse is best since Spider-Man, better than Homecoming by far, and better, in my view than Spider-Man 2. Dr. "Liv" Octopus is better than Molina's Octopus. It's also a more satisfying film with better storytelling than Spider-Man 1 although I still prefer that film on the whole.

It's so, so awesome. It's right up there with Logan, Got G 2 (in my opinion anyway :s) and Black Panther in terms of comic book movies that just go above and beyond the call of duty for what's expected of the genre and reach that pantheon of "truly, truly special." One of the absolute best animated movies I've seen in...well, ever as well.

I don't think that you can compare...to me Homecoming is the best live action spiderman, Into the Spiderverse the best animated one, and the best animated superhero movie based on a per-existing property so far.

The difference between live-action & animation is shown in the action. The latter is more dynamic though that's not an indication of being better, just different.

Also ya know what Peter needed, a vacation. Looking at Key West right now, it seems like a good enough spot for relaxation.

Edited by slimcoder on Dec 27th 2018 at 8:06:29 AM

Are we talking animated adaptations of Spider-Man in general, including the cartoons? So that even includes Spectacular Spider-Man?

I am talking movies. I am not in the habit of comparing movies with TV shows, because they work of a very different baseline.

Finally got to see the movie (Though I did miss out on Mile's finding out his uncle was the Prowler due to taking a bathroom break.) I enjoyed it and of the Spider-Man movies I've seen (1, 2, the fist Amazing movie, and Homecoming prior to this. I did read the official novelization of 3 though.) I'd probably say this is the best one and if not it's at least on par with Homecoming.

My biggest issue though, that I hope the sequel and spinoff don't have is that I felt like every Spider character except Miles's Peter and Miles himself was a dick so their goodbyes felt unearned. I get that they were frustrated but they also know he's new to this so aside from maybe Gwen and Peter B. Parker I don't understand why they were so mean to/harsh on him.

TBF, they're all in a really messed up situation, what with being stranded in another universe. That's bound to be just a tad stressful. And that's before they find out staying too long will kill them.

Finally got to see the film after two weeks of failed attempts.

If this film doesn’t win the Best Animated Feature Oscar, or at least one for best Visual FX, scrap Best Animated Feature as a category, because it is not getting better.

Cliff Robertson had a voice cameo[1]. They took his line from Spider-Man 1 and added it to the movie.

It's been a while since we've heard someone say the line in a film, hasn't it? The MCU doesn't even mention Uncle Ben, and has Peter learn about responsibility in an entirely different way.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 28th 2018 at 10:26:01 AM

To be absolutely honest, I am glad they downplayed "Great Power Great Responsibility". That was never an intrinsic part of Spider-Man.

Stan Lee wrote that in the captions of Amazing Fantasy #15:

If you read that in full, it's more like a moral summary, and the next line about a new name added to the roster of heroes is basically, like "Peter learned responsibility...now it's time for him to be awesome and use his powers". And that's why for most of the first 250 issues, "Great Power Comes Great Responsibility" was never mentioned in the pages of the Spider-Man comics and certainly never attributed to Uncle Ben.

That happened in 1987, in Spider-Man Vs. Wolverine #1 by Christopher Priest (comics) (then called Jim Owsley and better known today for his work on Black Panther). So we are talking something that came in 25 years later, introduced by someone who was not Lee, and who hardly had long-term involvement in the titles. It basically reduces Peter's origins and stories to a simple theme of guilt, and slogan, and it becomes a little silly and trite over time, and an example of Concepts Are Cheap. So basically, Spider-Man: Homecoming and even The Amazing Spider-Man Series downplaying it, yeah they were Truer to the Text. As is Into the Spider-Verse when Peter B. stops Miles from finishing it saying "I'm sick of it".